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Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:00 pm
by The Butcher
84Cat wrote:I wonder if they are getting their info from a Socal shoe salesman?
Heh..no kidding. Would be the greatest 50 dollar bet I ever lost.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:27 am
by PennZona20
It's not unheard of though:

Marcus Smart , Cauley-Stein, Frank the Tank (although he was more back of lotto projections last year), Blake Griffin (I think he wanted to play w his bro one more year) are all recent guys who did it.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:33 am
by Bosy Billups
To make it work, you'd have to take out at least a million dollar insurance policy in case you get a career ending injury.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:44 am
by UAEebs86
Bosy Billups wrote:To make it work, you'd have to take out at least a million dollar insurance policy in case you get a career ending injury.
I think Greg Byrne tweeted out an article a few weeks back that no NCAA player has ever collected on one of those insurance policies.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:07 pm
by Jefe

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:09 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Jefe wrote:
Unpossible.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:12 pm
by WildcatStunner
I refuse to believe he is even close to staying unless I hear it from the Stanimal himself.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:26 pm
by azthrillhouse
Well if some HuffPost guy I'd never heard of before says it's true, it must be true. He's also saying Zeus is almost certainly gone.

I'll be glad when this is all over one way or another.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:46 pm
by Beachcat97
If UK's guys can come back, why can't ours?

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:57 pm
by 3goggles
Beachcat97 wrote:If UK's guys can come back, why can't ours?
Yeah I am with you BC97. I know its not likely but why not!

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:05 pm
by splitsecond
azthrillhouse wrote:Well if some HuffPost guy I'd never heard of before says it's true, it must be true. He's also saying Zeus is almost certainly gone.

I'll be glad when this is all over one way or another.
That seems counter to reality in so many ways but let's be real here:

(1) Dusan is going to pose a serious threat to Zeus' playing time next year.

(2) SJ is listed outside of the lottery in draft projections, and this is one of the deepest drafts ever for wings

(3) If SJ really wants to go out bigger here, and truly enjoy another year of college before turning pro - he is just like every other college kid. People seem to forget that. There are any number of reasons he might just want another year - the money is NOT going anywhere.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:10 pm
by Longhorned
Why would a sports columnist from the Huffington Post know anything specific about this situation? The coaching staff have said that Stanley Johnson wants to return, but they are almost certain that, for obvious reason, Johnson will enter the NBA draft in spite of his desire to stay at Arizona. And now somebody in the know is telling him something other than this that makes the chances 60/40? It just doesn't ring true. Nor does what he's tweeting about Kaleb almost certainly going pro.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:11 pm
by rgdeuce
splitsecond wrote: That seems counter to reality in so many ways but let's be real here:

(1) Dusan is going to pose a serious threat to Zeus' playing time next year.

(2) SJ is listed outside of the lottery in draft projections, and this is one of the deepest drafts ever for wings

.
Not sure if serious

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:12 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Longhorned wrote:Why would a sports columnist from the Huffington Post know anything specific about this situation? The coaching staff have said that Stanley Johnson wants to return, but they are almost certain that, for obvious reason, Johnson will enter the NBA draft in spite of his desire to stay at Arizona. And now somebody in the know is telling him something other than this that makes the chances 60/40? It just doesn't ring true. Nor does what he's tweeting about Kaleb almost certainly going pro.
The beauty of a 60/40 split is the 100% chance that it has to be one of the two and you can't be wrong.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:21 pm
by Merkin
splitsecond wrote: (2) SJ is listed outside of the lottery in draft projections, and this is one of the deepest drafts ever for wings
No he isn't, he is still #9 at Givony's DraftExpress.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:29 pm
by Jefe

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:47 pm
by btfd16
I know not many/if any will believe me but I was hanging out this week with Stan multiple times but he sounds like he really is torn.. but with a gun to my head I say he stays. I don't know what the family situation is but I feel like that's the deciding factor.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:07 pm
by azgreg
It's my understanding that his mom and pop make OK money so that's not an issue.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:07 pm
by Gilbertcat
I always thought a lottery pick was top 3...since those are lottery winners. Did not realize it just means non playoff teams.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:09 pm
by azgreg
Gilbertcat wrote:I always thought a lottery pick was top 3...since those are lottery winners. Did not realize it just means non playoff teams.
All non playoff teams have a shot at the #1 pick.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:26 pm
by Pop McKale
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Why would a sports columnist from the Huffington Post know anything specific about this situation? The coaching staff have said that Stanley Johnson wants to return, but they are almost certain that, for obvious reason, Johnson will enter the NBA draft in spite of his desire to stay at Arizona. And now somebody in the know is telling him something other than this that makes the chances 60/40? It just doesn't ring true. Nor does what he's tweeting about Kaleb almost certainly going pro.
The beauty of a 60/40 split is the 100% chance that it has to be one of the two and you can't be wrong.
Thanks for the chuckle.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:50 am
by elcorral
Merkin wrote:
splitsecond wrote: (2) SJ is listed outside of the lottery in draft projections, and this is one of the deepest drafts ever for wings
No he isn't, he is still #9 at Givony's DraftExpress.
And would be leaving 2.2 million on the table...hard to see him returning.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:54 am
by Coop Cat
From the Chad Ford draft chat today:

Why would Stanley Johnson NOT enter the draft? How many consensus Top 10 picks choose not to forego?

Chad Ford (2:51 PM)
He's not quite as high as I think the media had him rated. He's closer to 8 to 12 than the 5 to 7 range many have had him. I think he wants to go high and I think he feels another year could improve it. Especially when you consider that this incoming high school class isn't particularly strong. But it's tough to turn down a lottery pick and i do think Johnson is a lock to go in the mid to late lottery.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:44 pm
by 3goggles
Coop Cat wrote:From the Chad Ford draft chat today:

Why would Stanley Johnson NOT enter the draft? How many consensus Top 10 picks choose not to forego?

Chad Ford (2:51 PM)
He's not quite as high as I think the media had him rated. He's closer to 8 to 12 than the 5 to 7 range many have had him. I think he wants to go high and I think he feels another year could improve it. Especially when you consider that this incoming high school class isn't particularly strong. But it's tough to turn down a lottery pick and i do think Johnson is a lock to go in the mid to late lottery.
Wouldnt SJ by default be a top 5 pick next year. I would take SJ over anybody in this upcoming class.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:07 pm
by gumby
azgreg wrote:
What's the subject of the "feeling is" sentence? Jason?

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:43 pm
by Chicat
gumby wrote:
azgreg wrote:
What's the subject of the "feeling is" sentence? Jason?
"Our"

Kind of like the Royal We in twitterese.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:16 pm
by gumby
We > Me

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:28 pm
by Beachcat97
Any news on Stan?

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:28 pm
by Chicat
Beachcat97 wrote:Any news on Stan?
Yep!

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:29 pm
by threenumberones
Stay tuned.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:40 pm
by CalStateTempe
Buckle up. :)

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:49 pm
by Beachcat97
Get premium?

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:49 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Beachcat97 wrote:Any news on Stan?
Gone.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports. ... -transfer/

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:52 pm
by HiCat
So....what is it?

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:36 pm
by Alieberman
HiCat wrote:So....what is it?
He has narrowed his choices down to 2.

1-Either he will leave
or
2- He will stay

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:47 pm
by Chicat
There is that rare third choice . . . . . Spontaneous Combustion.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:10 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Chicat wrote:There is that rare third choice . . . . . Spontaneous Combustion.
Choice #3 is actually dress in drag and enter the wnba draft, a la Juwanna Mann.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:17 pm
by LBdCactus
Chicat wrote:There is that rare third choice . . . . . Spontaneous Combustion.
If this happens, I'm afraid my son will be absolutely devastated.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:50 pm
by Longhorned
If the Suns draft him you can still watch him in the Sonoran desert.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:11 pm
by Alieberman
Longhorned wrote:If the Suns draft him you can still watch him in the Sonoran desert.
I would be so excited if the Suns drafted him. (Until about 10 minutes later when they trade him for a future 2nd rounder and a bag of peanuts)

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:14 am
by Longhorned
The Suns would never draft Stanley Johnson. McDonough will go for the arcane pick that you've half never heard of and half never envisioned in the NBA. The draftee, despite being injury-prone, will end up contributing in ways that only a connoisseur can understand, and in ways that don't improve the team's record or excite the fan base. But TucsonClip and JMarkJohns will be validated when the Suns eventually are able to use him successfully as trade bait to unload an undesirable contract, along with filler. Meanwhile, the Pistons with Johnson as their centerpiece will have a renaissance replete with multiple championships, but that's a trajectory best appreciated by the lowbrow, casual fan.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:43 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Longhorned wrote:The Suns would never draft Stanley Johnson. McDonough will go for the arcane pick that you've half never heard of and half never envisioned in the NBA. The draftee, despite being injury-prone, will end up contributing in ways that only a connoisseur can understand, and in ways that don't improve the team's record or excite the fan base. But TucsonClip and JMarkJohns will be validated when the Suns eventually are able to use him successfully as trade bait to unload an undesirable contract, along with filler. Meanwhile, the Pistons with Johnson as their centerpiece will have a renaissance replete with multiple championships, but that's a trajectory best appreciated by the lowbrow, casual fan.
Is there another Morris sibling? If no, the obvious answer is to acquire another PG who does not see himself as a part of the franchise in the long term.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:46 am
by catgrad97
And this is how the Suns will remain as long as they are owned by Robert Sarver: Phoenix's 21st-century answer to Bill Bidwill.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:15 am
by gumby
Any news on Stan?

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:18 am
by Spaceman Spiff
gumby wrote:Any news on Stan?
When Eminem didn't respond to his letters, he kind of went off the reservation.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:20 am
by azgreg
gumby wrote:Any news on Stan?
He needs a new plan.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:22 am
by gumby
Heard he went with the breakfast burrito, instead of the oatmeal. Read what you will into that.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:25 am
by Longhorned
But nobody gets the oatmeal.

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:45 am
by gumby
True, but the mimosa is a concern. Already spending the money?

Re: Stanley Johnson

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:56 am
by Alieberman
gumby wrote:Any news on Stan?
Oh crap. Did anyone see this coming?