Re: let's talk '18
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:53 am
Me three.
Silent commitment apparentlyNYCat wrote:
What a difference a day makes.YoDeFoe wrote:Spiff caught me mid edit. I posted once and kept diving deeper... I had to go back and post some more
One last one:
"I’m not sure there was a better guard from start to finish than that of Jahvon Quinerly. The New Jersey native was a terrific mixture of scoring, passing, rebounding, defense, play-making and leadership. He seemed to get better as the camp progressed while other players seemed to hit their wall."
From this year's NBA Top 100 camp, same camp that Alex Barcello stormed through last year.
This year's competition included Ayo Dosunmu, Immanuel Quickley, Devon Dotson, Courtney Ramey, Anferne Simons and Elijah Weaver. Four and five star players.
Two years now he's been killing it. As a junior he posted 20 points, five assists, three rebounds and two steals for Hudson Catholic HS en route to being named New Jersey’s Gatorade Player of the Year. 20/5/3 is his go-to stat line.
This kid is going to be a breath of fresh air in McKale. I can see why Choo is so confident in him. I share that confidence now.
A backcourt of Quinerly, Barcello, and Williams is almost unfair.
Not to be blase, but we had always been on the outside looking in for Barrett. There's never been a single recruiting analyst who picked him here. Duke and Kentucky are an even split for him.Merkin wrote:
Look at the bright side. Think of all the money we'll save.NYCat wrote:Hard to imagine Little and Quinerly are eligible to play college.
So now we have Williams, O'Neal. Bol, Shittu still out there.
But good Lord, if Givony is right (which he usually is) we would've had a '18 class of..
Williams, Quinerly, Little, O'Neal, Bol and a strong favorite for Shittu -- godamn
We escaped the fluff parade and that's about it. If he was really nice he would've eliminated Oregon publicly as well.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Not to be blase, but we had always been on the outside looking in for Barrett. There's never been a single recruiting analyst who picked him here. Duke and Kentucky are an even split for him.Merkin wrote:
Basically, we hastened the inevitable with Barrett.
Is anyone? I can't imagine a recruit committing right now, when most major schools could get destroyed at any second and I have to imagine most schools want a hold so they don't get in on a recruit who the FBI might be looking at.ChooChooCat wrote:We escaped the fluff parade and that's about it. If he was really nice he would've eliminated Oregon publicly as well.Spaceman Spiff wrote:Not to be blase, but we had always been on the outside looking in for Barrett. There's never been a single recruiting analyst who picked him here. Duke and Kentucky are an even split for him.Merkin wrote:
Basically, we hastened the inevitable with Barrett.
Either way this thread needs an official hold, cause yeah we're not landing anybody any time soon.
Unfortunately you just described the majority of college basketball recruits...most of them are not being recruited for our science department...honestly I don't fault them its just the rest of the students in school are generally there for much longer and for a much lower paying job in the end.Puerco wrote:Seriously. Any kid that commits right now probably isn't smart enough to be in college.
If I was not Arizona or Miami, I'd be all over Nassir Little. Of all the players out there, he's one of the least likely to ask you for money, unless he is waaaaay dumber than I would think.Puerco wrote:Seriously. Any kid that commits right now probably isn't smart enough to be in college.
And factor in the potential loss of scholarships, oy. Not good.ASUHATER! wrote:Considering we need a like 7 man class next year to field a full team.. we may be screwed
Eh the scholarships are meaningless, because we'd lose at max 2 and we only use 9 guys max anyways. Postseason ban would be much more damaging to recruiting and at this point we'd honestly have to look towards the JUCO ranks and grad transfers to fill holes.Statfreak77 wrote:And factor in the potential loss of scholarships, oy. Not good.ASUHATER! wrote:Considering we need a like 7 man class next year to field a full team.. we may be screwed
If the talent gets depleted, it's fine. We've been there before and survived. The Kyle Fogg era coincided with a marked decline in our talent level. Miller is a good coach. I could see him thriving in an underdog role. How ironic would it be if he made a Final Four without a single 5-star on the roster?NYCat wrote:'18-'19 roster:Could be a couple rough years w thin rosters, that's not even factoring possible scholarship restrictions.
I just hope it will be his second final four and he will already be a national championBeachcat97 wrote:If the talent gets depleted, it's fine. We've been there before and survived. The Kyle Fogg era coincided with a marked decline in our talent level. Miller is a good coach. I could see him thriving in an underdog role. How ironic would it be if he made a Final Four without a single 5-star on the roster?NYCat wrote:'18-'19 roster:Could be a couple rough years w thin rosters, that's not even factoring possible scholarship restrictions.
Me too. This year's team may be the most loaded roster he'll have for a while. You still never know what may happen recruiting-wise in the spring, but at this point, I'd be a little surprised if Bol came. And who knows what happens with Quinerly? There's no official word yet that he's out.dcZONAfan wrote:I just hope it will be his second final four and he will already be a national championBeachcat97 wrote:If the talent gets depleted, it's fine. We've been there before and survived. The Kyle Fogg era coincided with a marked decline in our talent level. Miller is a good coach. I could see him thriving in an underdog role. How ironic would it be if he made a Final Four without a single 5-star on the roster?NYCat wrote:'18-'19 roster:Could be a couple rough years w thin rosters, that's not even factoring possible scholarship restrictions.
I'll say it again: What happened at UNC is deplorable. And anyone who says Miller is at risk with that NCAA policy that the head coach bears responsibility and suffers consequences for what takes place is wrong. That policy has been broken.ChooChooCat wrote:Looks like Little is going to commit to UNC today. I'd expect Shittu to follow suit shortly after. The utter unbelievable irony that a school that escaped any sort of punishment for their fuckery is going to capitalize on our own fuckery. Yay.
ChooChooCat wrote:Looks like Little is going to commit to UNC today. I'd expect Shittu to follow suit shortly after. The utter unbelievable irony that a school that escaped any sort of punishment for their fuckery is going to capitalize on our own fuckery. Yay.
UNC defended its athletics programs by throwing the entire academic institution under the bus. Incredible.Beachcat97 wrote:As a university employee, I’m more offended by what UNC did than by schools that have provided improper benefits. I mean, they’re both out of bounds, to be sure, but UNC has trampled on academic integrity/honesty, which is at the heart of education as an institution. When we start down the path that UNC took, it’s no longer necessary to refer to them as student-athletes. They’re just athletes, and they’re asked to exploit an ineffective oversight mechanism. It’s terrible.
I suppose we're all complicit in this willful delusion of seeing power conference schools as universities first, athletics programs second. But UNC isn't even pretending anymore. They're just pissing all over their faculty and deans and academic offices. Must be strange to teach at UNC.YoDeFoe wrote:UNC defended its athletics programs by throwing the entire academic institution under the bus. Incredible.Beachcat97 wrote:As a university employee, I’m more offended by what UNC did than by schools that have provided improper benefits. I mean, they’re both out of bounds, to be sure, but UNC has trampled on academic integrity/honesty, which is at the heart of education as an institution. When we start down the path that UNC took, it’s no longer necessary to refer to them as student-athletes. They’re just athletes, and they’re asked to exploit an ineffective oversight mechanism. It’s terrible.
Beachcat97 wrote:As a university employee, I’m more offended by what UNC did than by schools that have provided improper benefits. I mean, they’re both out of bounds, to be sure, but UNC has trampled on academic integrity/honesty, which is at the heart of education as an institution. When we start down the path that UNC took, it’s no longer necessary to refer to them as student-athletes. They’re just athletes, and they’re asked to exploit an ineffective oversight mechanism. It’s terrible.
Yep. I was at UCLA for a while. Now at a CSU.HiCat wrote:Beachcat97 wrote:As a university employee, I’m more offended by what UNC did than by schools that have provided improper benefits. I mean, they’re both out of bounds, to be sure, but UNC has trampled on academic integrity/honesty, which is at the heart of education as an institution. When we start down the path that UNC took, it’s no longer necessary to refer to them as student-athletes. They’re just athletes, and they’re asked to exploit an ineffective oversight mechanism. It’s terrible.
Beach you work for west coast univ?
JFC. Here's a link with discussion.ChooChooCat wrote:Fwiw Andrew Slater, who's pretty well connected, just picked Shareef to Kentucky in the crystal ball.
Is there anyone who isn't a fan of Wooden? Hard not to be. Great, great man. That was well before my time. I was there for the Howland years. For how well they did during that stretch, you'd be amazed how little interest there was among the undergrad population. I'd have to remind my students about Bruin home games, and even then, most were more interested in other things. I'd say only about 20% of them even knew who Howland was.HiCat wrote:Cool.
Not to hijack the discussion. Was a big Wooden fan back in the day. Loved his philosophy of life, good heart.
Not officially, but certainly doesn't sound good.azcat49 wrote:So did O'Neal decommitt?
I mean if Bol demands they do they'll do it. Reef would be dumb to sign up for that deal, but the kid also thinks he's a one and done.Statfreak77 wrote:As far as I have heard, Shareef does not even hold an offer from Kentucky yet. LOL
Plus, the expectation is that Kentucky does not have many, if any, OND's on their current roster...so if he is looking at immediate playing time, he won't find it at Kentucky.ChooChooCat wrote:I mean if Bol demands they do they'll do it. Reef would be dumb to sign up for that deal, but the kid also thinks he's a one and done.Statfreak77 wrote:As far as I have heard, Shareef does not even hold an offer from Kentucky yet. LOL
Never thought we were getting him in the first place so fuck it.NYCat wrote: