Bear Down Wildcats

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:42 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:33 am So like, there’s zero chance rumors of Tyty’s pending UK commitment have been greatly exaggerated, right?

He’s going to Kentucky

Lol...

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:42 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:33 am So like, there’s zero chance rumors of Tyty’s pending UK commitment have been greatly exaggerated, right?

He’s going to Kentucky

Going to Kentucky... but you didn't say "Playing for Kentucky" So what... vacationing?

We still have a shot!

-Beachcat

Alieberman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:33 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:42 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:33 am So like, there’s zero chance rumors of Tyty’s pending UK commitment have been greatly exaggerated, right?

He’s going to Kentucky

Going to Kentucky... but you didn't say "Playing for Kentucky" So what... vacationing?

We still have a shot!

-Beachcat

Am I just batshit crazy or does everyone consider Kerr a 2 and no shot starting at PG? I can understand playing him off the ball pending who we land and if they are a PG, but Kerrs rep IS as a PG.

I've already been down this road on the other site, but it's as if people flat out think we need a starting PG, regardless of if Lloyd's system is friendly to 2 PGs on the floor together, unlike Millers.

I would be very happy with another shot creator and backup PG, just as I would another legit PG. I've just seen so many people refer to Kerr as a combo or a guy who is going to play off the ball, when I think he can clearly operate on ball but not as your primary perimeter scorer.

Always thought Kerr was a one guard. That's his natural position. Not sure he's ready to start yet though. Had a lot of trouble at anything inside the three point line

Kriisa averages 0.5 2 point shots per game and 4.8 3 PT shots per game. That's not a PG, that's a 2G. Also only 2.4 APG in 22 MPG, although his 1.3 TO PG is good.

Merkin wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 4:52 pm Kriisa averages 0.5 2 point shots per game and 4.8 3 PT shots per game. That's not a PG, that's a 2G. Also only 2.4 APG in 22 MPG, although his 1.3 TO PG is good.

I mean you are aware how ball dominant James Akinjo was in this offense right? Also we’ve had numerous PGs who shot more 3s than 2s. That is completely normal.

From my man Gershon:

Skilled point guard with good size and average length. Plenty of room to fill into his frame. Very good three-point shooter off bounce who can hit tough/contested shots. Could improve efficiency off catch and middle game. Can finish with both hands at rim. Outstanding vision/creative passer. Ambidextrous one-hand passer off live dribble. Competitive spirit and motor help overcome physical tools on defense. Projects as high major starter.

Givony on Kerr.

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/29056212

What about that French guard we offered recently

Are you talking about Adama Bal? If so he's not ready to contribute this year. Project player. Give him a year or so. People also saying it might be difficult to get him eligible so idk where we stand there. Heard he's ours if so

Merkin wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 4:52 pm Kriisa averages 0.5 2 point shots per game and 4.8 3 PT shots per game. That's not a PG, that's a 2G. Also only 2.4 APG in 22 MPG, although his 1.3 TO PG is good.

These are his stats last season, right?

I thought he was a 1 on his euro team. Is that me misremembering?

Kerr did not make a single 2 pt shot all season, you can't have a starting 1 who cant get by his defender on an occasion. He also had the worst PER on the team (I know he came in late which I am sure had a lot to do with it). I agree that his primary position should be PG, but if he is starting there I think we are looking at a bubble team unless we add some real weapons at other positions.

Postmaster wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:13 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 4:52 pm Kriisa averages 0.5 2 point shots per game and 4.8 3 PT shots per game. That's not a PG, that's a 2G. Also only 2.4 APG in 22 MPG, although his 1.3 TO PG is good.

These are his stats last season, right?

I thought he was a 1 on his euro team. Is that me misremembering?

You’re not misremembering.

I'm hoping by the end of this week we have Pelle, Bal, and Kaluma. Odds that happen is a mystery. I know Syracuse and Creighton are our biggest competition for Kaluma, for Pelle I've heard it's between Kansas and us, but I haven't seen many Kansas guys or reporters talking about him really

So where is Nolan Hickman going to end up? It just seems crazy that there's this free run to start at a program with the pieces and the history while also being a hero of sorts, and no one of a high ranking wants it.

EVCat wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:10 pm So where is Nolan Hickman going to end up? It just seems crazy that there's this free run to start at a program with the pieces and the history while also being a hero of sorts, and no one of a high ranking wants it.

It appears either Gonzaga or the G League.

Love it. Huge addition.

Oh let's get it. Very good pickup. Go get Arthur Kaluma now and maybe that kid Choo and I were talking about the other day and we're set

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:06 am Oh let's get it. Very good pickup. Go get Arthur Kaluma now and maybe that kid Choo and I were talking about the other day and we're set

Adama, or someone else? I can’t remember if he’s the one you’re talking about

Is Pelle good enough to start next season?

IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:11 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:06 am Oh let's get it. Very good pickup. Go get Arthur Kaluma now and maybe that kid Choo and I were talking about the other day and we're set

Adama, or someone else? I can’t remember if he’s the one you’re talking about

Choo said there are some good PGs waiting to see what shakes out at Kentucky and Arizona with TyTy and others before putting their name in the portal.

IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:11 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:06 am Oh let's get it. Very good pickup. Go get Arthur Kaluma now and maybe that kid Choo and I were talking about the other day and we're set

Adama, or someone else? I can’t remember if he’s the one you’re talking about

Not sure we get Adama anymore. There is some eligibility concerns, but if he plays ncaa he's coming here. There's another guy we've talked to a bit and there is mutual interest. Same thing, if he comes to college he's coming here from what I've heard. Haven't gave an official offer yet but I don't doubt one is coming with Tyty's commitment to Kentucky will be very soon. Wouldn't doubt he officially announces tomorrow or Tuesday. Kind of annoyed Scheer put out this guy's name on his board, was hoping it'd be kept under wraps until it's pretty much a done deal, similar to the Tubelis situation last year, but not get leaked out too early this time

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:15 am

IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:11 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:06 am Oh let's get it. Very good pickup. Go get Arthur Kaluma now and maybe that kid Choo and I were talking about the other day and we're set

Adama, or someone else? I can’t remember if he’s the one you’re talking about

Choo said there are some good PGs waiting to see what shakes out at Kentucky and Arizona with TyTy and others before putting their name in the portal.

Hold up a second, let me be clear, I don't know of a single PG in college that is doing that. I do however know how the game works though and it will be known throughout the industry that Arizona is looking for a PG and that would obviously naturally appeal to many guys. Also there are discrete things Arizona can do if they would have a guy in mind if it were to get to that point.

Arizona could go that route or they may go the Euro route as well. Still very TBD.

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:14 am Is Pelle good enough to start next season?

Pending on what Lloyd would want to do with the roster of course, but yes I believe he'd be good enough to start. Doesn't mean he will, but he'll definitely be in the mix for a starting spot.

I'm not expecting to have a point guard anytime soon. Lloyd is a patient guy. I expect him to wait a while for some more transfer options to enter, talk to a euro player or two, and really gage all his options. He's not going to just take a point guard to take a point guard. He's really big on fit. He wants the right point guard

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:50 am I'm not expecting to have a point guard anytime soon. Lloyd is a patient guy. I expect him to wait a while for some more transfer options to enter, talk to a euro player or two, and really gage all his options. He's not going to just take a point guard to take a point guard. He's really big on fit. He wants the right point guard

To be honest I really like the Euro option, he's a very quality PG that would fit very well IMO. I guess the only negative line of thought is if we take him, literally all the guards on our roster would be European (if you don't count Mathurin of course).

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:53 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:50 am I'm not expecting to have a point guard anytime soon. Lloyd is a patient guy. I expect him to wait a while for some more transfer options to enter, talk to a euro player or two, and really gage all his options. He's not going to just take a point guard to take a point guard. He's really big on fit. He wants the right point guard

To be honest I really like the Euro option, he's a very quality PG that would fit very well IMO. I guess the only negative line of thought is if we take him, literally all the guards on our roster would be European (if you don't count Mathurin of course).

I think he'd be a great pickup. Can do a lot of things well and we have good connections there that can help us. Got great chemistry with a player or two on our team already too. Unless a really good point guard enters the portal that fits our system, which is entirely possible, this is the guy I want

I'd rather have an experienced college PG (if there's one out there) than another freshman Euro that almost surely will take a while or a year to adjust.

Only have Tubelis, Marhurin, Terry for this next year. Kerr has less than half a season of experience.

Larsson and Bal (if he's college eligible) are nice building blocks for the future.

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:17 am I'd rather have an experienced college PG (if there's one out there) than another freshman Euro that almost surely will take a while or a year to adjust.

Only have Tubelis, Marhurin, Terry for this next year. Kerr has less than half a season of experience.

Larsson and Bal (if he's college eligible) are nice building blocks for the future.

This is a more than fair take/concern. Absolutely believe this is something going through Lloyd's train of thought.

We've had a guy from Finland (Lauri) and now a Swede, so we just need a Norwegian to complete the Viking holy trinity.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:15 am We've had a guy from Finland (Lauri) and now a Swede, so we just need a Norwegian to complete the Viking holy trinity.

Also a Dane

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:33 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:15 am We've had a guy from Finland (Lauri) and now a Swede, so we just need a Norwegian to complete the Viking holy trinity.

Also a Dane

Don't they technically have to play basketball in klogs though?

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:48 am

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:33 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:15 am We've had a guy from Finland (Lauri) and now a Swede, so we just need a Norwegian to complete the Viking holy trinity.

Also a Dane

Don't they technically have to play basketball in klogs though?

Dutch, maybe

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:48 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:14 am Is Pelle good enough to start next season?

Pending on what Lloyd would want to do with the roster of course, but yes I believe he'd be good enough to start. Doesn't mean he will, but he'll definitely be in the mix for a starting spot.

This guy can shoot and you can never have to many guys like that. If you get a pg that can penetrate and then kick this guy will make teams pay. Not sure about his defense. With him, kerr and Ben I don't think a zone will be very effective against us.

TheCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 1:40 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:48 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:14 am Is Pelle good enough to start next season?

Pending on what Lloyd would want to do with the roster of course, but yes I believe he'd be good enough to start. Doesn't mean he will, but he'll definitely be in the mix for a starting spot.

This guy can shoot and you can never have to many guys like that. If you get a pg that can penetrate and then kick this guy will make teams pay. Not sure about his defense. With him, kerr and Ben I don't think a zone will be very effective against us.

Saw that he is supposed to be a good defender, and a smart player with the ball.

If the Cats don't have any players who can penetrate like Akinjo, I imagine they will just play man.

TheCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 1:40 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:48 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:14 am Is Pelle good enough to start next season?

Pending on what Lloyd would want to do with the roster of course, but yes I believe he'd be good enough to start. Doesn't mean he will, but he'll definitely be in the mix for a starting spot.

This guy can shoot and you can never have to many guys like that. If you get a pg that can penetrate and then kick this guy will make teams pay. Not sure about his defense. With him, kerr and Ben I don't think a zone will be very effective against us.

Hmm after 12 years of Miller, I'm not comfortable with 3point team statline that isn't 11/14 or 1/12.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:15 am We've had a guy from Finland (Lauri) and now a Swede, so we just need a Norwegian to complete the Viking holy trinity.

I'm Norwegian. I might have some eligibility remaining, and I carry bags and grab water well. I just need a pretty healthy stipend to hold my family over during my non-earning playing years

If we don’t get Adama, what are our chances with Apollo and Starbuck?

Postmaster wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 2:21 pm If we don’t get Adama, what are our chances with Apollo and Starbuck?

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:53 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:50 am I'm not expecting to have a point guard anytime soon. Lloyd is a patient guy. I expect him to wait a while for some more transfer options to enter, talk to a euro player or two, and really gage all his options. He's not going to just take a point guard to take a point guard. He's really big on fit. He wants the right point guard

To be honest I really like the Euro option, he's a very quality PG that would fit very well IMO. I guess the only negative line of thought is if we take him, literally all the guards on our roster would be European (if you don't count Mathurin of course).

Is this mystery Euro PG's name out there somewhere? Or are we all still in the dark?

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 3:35 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:53 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:50 am I'm not expecting to have a point guard anytime soon. Lloyd is a patient guy. I expect him to wait a while for some more transfer options to enter, talk to a euro player or two, and really gage all his options. He's not going to just take a point guard to take a point guard. He's really big on fit. He wants the right point guard

To be honest I really like the Euro option, he's a very quality PG that would fit very well IMO. I guess the only negative line of thought is if we take him, literally all the guards on our roster would be European (if you don't count Mathurin of course).

Is this mystery Euro PG's name out there somewhere? Or are we all still in the dark?

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Pelle Larsson '20-21 Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n3aX-Lyp8U


Utah transfer Pelle Larsson commits to Arizona
ByJason Scheer 18 hours ago

https://247sports.com/college/arizona/A ... 165208965/

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 3:35 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:53 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:50 am I'm not expecting to have a point guard anytime soon. Lloyd is a patient guy. I expect him to wait a while for some more transfer options to enter, talk to a euro player or two, and really gage all his options. He's not going to just take a point guard to take a point guard. He's really big on fit. He wants the right point guard

To be honest I really like the Euro option, he's a very quality PG that would fit very well IMO. I guess the only negative line of thought is if we take him, literally all the guards on our roster would be European (if you don't count Mathurin of course).

Is this mystery Euro PG's name out there somewhere? Or are we all still in the dark?

If he becomes an actual serious target I will share his name.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:52 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 3:35 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:53 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:50 am I'm not expecting to have a point guard anytime soon. Lloyd is a patient guy. I expect him to wait a while for some more transfer options to enter, talk to a euro player or two, and really gage all his options. He's not going to just take a point guard to take a point guard. He's really big on fit. He wants the right point guard

To be honest I really like the Euro option, he's a very quality PG that would fit very well IMO. I guess the only negative line of thought is if we take him, literally all the guards on our roster would be European (if you don't count Mathurin of course).

Is this mystery Euro PG's name out there somewhere? Or are we all still in the dark?

If he becomes an actual serious target I will share his name.

Got it. Thanks, Choo.

In the meantime, is it safe to assume that we're going to offer at least one more guard?

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:32 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:52 am

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 3:35 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:53 am

BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:50 am I'm not expecting to have a point guard anytime soon. Lloyd is a patient guy. I expect him to wait a while for some more transfer options to enter, talk to a euro player or two, and really gage all his options. He's not going to just take a point guard to take a point guard. He's really big on fit. He wants the right point guard

To be honest I really like the Euro option, he's a very quality PG that would fit very well IMO. I guess the only negative line of thought is if we take him, literally all the guards on our roster would be European (if you don't count Mathurin of course).

Is this mystery Euro PG's name out there somewhere? Or are we all still in the dark?

If he becomes an actual serious target I will share his name.

Got it. Thanks, Choo.

In the meantime, is it safe to assume that we're going to offer at least one more guard?

We'll add another PG.

HiCat wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:11 am Pelle Larsson '20-21 Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n3aX-Lyp8U


Utah transfer Pelle Larsson commits to Arizona
ByJason Scheer 18 hours ago

https://247sports.com/college/arizona/A ... 165208965/

So, my thoughts on Pelle (not that I presume the importance of my opinion). I have not watched games, this is a HL vid and stat review only.

A very good distance shooter. This is unquestionably his best trait.

The remainder of his offensive game seem fairly average. His assist totals are ok for a 2, but not ok for a 1. His to's are a problem, 29% is very high for a perimeter guy without high usage. He's not a great rebounder for his size by any means.

Defensive metrics are a shade below what Terrell Brown gave us last year in similar minutes. So, it could be worse on D, but he isn't going to raise our level of play.

If he's genuinely a starting 2 guard, he needs to have the aspects of his game beyond shooting begin to grow.

Nice jersey

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