The Official Can We leave the Pac-12 Thread

[3goggles]

Let's go joing the Big 12(10) and make Kansas our bitch!!!

[PieceOfMeat]

we could just join Gonzaga's conference and have an easy path to a high seed every year.

[AZCatGirl]

Plus Gonzaga swept their conference awards. At least those coaches don't have some petty grudge against the best team.

[Olsondogg]

I don't see why we'd leave one Mid-Major for another...cause without us, the PAC is a mid-major.

[Chicat]

I honestly wish there was an alternative conference out there that we could at least threaten to bolt to. Alas, there is nothing...

[PHXCATS]

Bad idea on my fronts if serious.

The PAC 12 is good for Arizona. Sucks the coaches voted the way they did but it is all good for Arizona in the long run

[Gilbertcat]

Eight of the Big 12 schools each will receive approximately $23 million.
TCU and West Virginia, which are about to start their third season as Big 12 members, received a 67 percent share in revenue distribution for the 2013-14

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle. ... =209513755

(Eleven schools made $19.8 million. Utah collected only $10.2 million, bringing the average down. The school doesn't get a full share until 2015.)

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... to-schools

Eventually money alone could determine this if they ever approached the school and offered a fair share.

[catgrad97]

Yes. Big 12 could be a move, but we're not taking Arizona State with us.

And no, in basketball, quite the opposite is true: Arizona is good for the Pac-12. Quite the national prop, in fact.

[rgdeuce]

Where does the sixth best conference drop without us? 8th, 9th? This is becoming the norm for this conference in basketball. It's a joke and been that way for a while now.

[ASUHATER!]

Without us the Pac 11 would be fighting the mountain west and aac for relevance. Probably would be a 2 bid league every year.

[Bosy Billups]

I don't want to join the conference of truck stops, as Bill Walton would say.

[azthrillhouse]

I wish someone like Jon Wilner, that pays attention to & understands the money flows in the Pac-12, would do some sort of analysis of "what if AZ left", or "what if AZ was an average Pac-12 team".

(Not Wilner himself, obviously, because he can't be objective about Arizona..)

By my cocktail napkin calculation, the "Arizona Effect" on our road games + our impact on the Pac 12 tourney is probably between 1 and 1.5 million in ticket sales & concessions.

Would be curious to see someone w/ access to all the numbers crunch them and see what our overall financial impact above replacement is, when you factor in TV, merchandising, NCAA tournament revenue, etc.

I have the feeling that while it might be a fair chunk, it would still be a drop in the bucket compared to overall (football) revenue.

[dirtbags]

oh hell no


we may have our gripes, but the pac-12 is the best conference. long live the pac.

[BigSkyCatinMT]

So...23 million where 20% of the teams set to drag the average $$ down by 33% share each vs. 19.8 million with 8.33% of the teams to drag down the average revenue by presumably a similar percentage.

($23 mill X 8) + (2/3) $23 mill X 2) shared by 10 teams = roughly 19.93 Mill. for the big 12 with full shares.

Looking at about $19.4 mill per school in the P-12 with full shares?

Pretty damn close.

Then, is there a buyout? Increased travel? Pretty sure Dish just made the P-12 network part of The Top 150 = greater revenues.