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What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:13 pm
by TheGreatCatsby
Decker is super long and lankey and was a ton tonight, and Frank did his typical 8/8 from the field. Obviously we can't play Zeus on Kaminsky all night, the blow by will be in huge effect. But we can't let Decker go for 30 either.
So how do we defend those two?
Miller said he had all summer to think about it.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:13 pm
by PieceOfMeat
hope they get the stomach flu?
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:14 pm
by Main Event
Rondae checks Dekker.
Kaleb is just gonna have to sack up and get some payback
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:14 pm
by 84Cat
I think Bash might be our best option. Zeus is too slow to stay in front of him.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:15 pm
by Frybry02
Main Event wrote:Rondae checks Dekker.
Kaleb is just gonna have to sack up and get some payback
If he gets manhandled like tonight we are in trouble
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:15 pm
by TheGreatCatsby
If Ashley plays on Kaminsky, where do we play Zeus?
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:16 pm
by FightWildcatsFight
There isn't anyone big enough on the roster to guard Kaminsky except for Zeus.
This is it, this is his career in one game. He needs to find something within himself or he needs to forget whatever expectations he has for the NBA.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:17 pm
by AZCatGirl
Someone show Zeus what Kaminsky said about him. That should motivate him.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:18 pm
by Main Event
Frybry02 wrote:Main Event wrote:Rondae checks Dekker.
Kaleb is just gonna have to sack up and get some payback
If he gets manhandled like tonight we are in trouble
He got ate in the 1st half, but he let his nuts hang in the 2nd. Nobody got more shit about that L than him, he needs to take this one personally.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:19 pm
by rgdeuce
Rondae shuts down Dekker. Zeus struggles w Kaminsky then try bash and go small.
We just need to score and we will be fine
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:21 pm
by azcat49
Pull a Magic Johnson and let Stanimal play Kaminsky and put the shimreaper on Dekker
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:22 pm
by Frybry02
We have have to run to in every Wisconsin miss and make them pay for it. NC did a pretty good job in transition.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:24 pm
by rgdeuce
azcat49 wrote:Pull a Magic Johnson and let Stanimal play Kaminsky and put the shimreaper on Dekker
You dont want a weapon like stanley getting in foul trouble. He would kill stanley regardless
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:24 pm
by TheGreatCatsby
Miller would never do it, but at times, it almost seems as if a 2-3 zone would be the best defense against those two.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:26 pm
by Frybry02
TheGreatCatsby wrote:Miller would never do it, but at times, it almost seems as if a 2-3 zone would be the best defense against those two.
Too many weapons on the perimeter to even think about 2-3
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:26 pm
by rgdeuce
You dont zone wisky dude.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:28 pm
by elriop20
BAsh is the obvious choice. Slightly shorter, but can keep up with him.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:34 pm
by TheGreatCatsby
In their losses, they've shot like 25% from three, were 1-11 from 3 in a half, so they're not absolutely deadly from outside. Generally good, yes, but not invincible.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:34 pm
by Catatonic
Start with Zeus on Kaminsky. Rondae on Decker. Don't sleep on Hayes. Ashley will have his hands full. Or biggest matchup advantage with Wisconsin is we have Rondae for Decker.
We can also go small with Ashley on Frank and Rondae eliminating the bigger threat between Hayes/Decker with the Stanimal on the other.
We just need to do what we do and hit some shots.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:36 pm
by RiseAndFire
For Kaminsky the strategy will again be: Leave Tarc on an island to get abused all game until he fouls out
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:38 pm
by TheGreatCatsby
RiseAndFire wrote:For Kaminsky the strategy will again be: Leave Tarc on an island to get abused all game until he fouls out
Yes, and we pay Miller like 18 million dollars a year to prevent this scenario from happening again
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:39 pm
by dmjcat
Dekker has been lighting up teams worse than Kaminsky. I would like us to attack him (isolate Bash/SHJ on him) on clear outs and see if we can get him in foul trouble.
Tarc is in over his head. He does have one advantage over Kaminsky........he weighs more and is physically stronger. Tarc needs to physically attack FK every single possession on AZ's offensive end of the court and pray the refs let him get away with it. Put his butt into FK every time, his smelly armpit into his face and aggressively attempt to get inside position every time down court......multiple times during the possession. He needs to literally start a fight/war with him on every play at AZ's end. With any luck he might wear FK down some and get a cheap foul or two.
On the defensive end the only thing I can think of is to try something we didn't do last year......front Kaminsky. This will probably just lead to some easy buckets with Wisky throwing it over Zeus but if we pressure the guy with the ball (RHJ with 7-1" wingspan, SHJ with 6-11" wingspan and Bash with his 7-3" wingspan) maybe we can force a few bad throws down low.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:40 pm
by TheGreatCatsby
Also, I don't mind backing off Frank, letting him bomb from outside to start. Sure he probably makes a few, tempatation will be to go face guard, but that just leads to the blow by. The more he stays out on the permiter, will be good in the long run. Don't mind Frank shooting outside jumpers, lesser of the evils.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:41 pm
by Daryl Zero
We ask Xavier's Reynolds to kick the crap out of these two guys cos clearly that's what this guy does.
He probably gets an assault charge by handing someone a PB & J sandwich cos he does everything so violently.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:41 pm
by Longhorned
Let Ashley guard Hayes so Rondae can limit Dekker. Let Tarc guard Kaminsky and do the best he can, which would still be enough to win if we don't let everybody not named Frank get going.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:42 pm
by Catatonic
If the Kaminsky from last years game shows up we are going to have a tough time again. That was his very best game in his life though.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:43 pm
by Daryl Zero
Decker scares me more than Kaminsky. All tournament, everyone has been keying on Kaminsky's turn to one shoulder. Can Tarc do this?
Just make sure the double doesn't come from Decker's man and do not let these guys drive past you or back cut you.
Rondae had a great interception of a back cut. His long arms probably are shocking when you play against him.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:46 pm
by UAEebs86
Make them match up with us. They can't guard Rondae and Stanley.
We lost last year because of lack of offense, not because of Kaminsky.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:46 pm
by Longhorned
I think the key to Arizona's defense will be Rondae v. Decker, even if Zeus has a repeat of last year.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:47 pm
by Longhorned
UAEebs86 wrote:Make them match up with us. They can't guard Rondae and Stanley.
We lost last year because of lack of offense, not because of Kaminsky.
Kaminsky can't guard Tarc, either.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:52 pm
by WildcatStunner
They have to worry about guarding Stanley.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:54 pm
by Daryl Zero
Decker looks like the bad clone on Orphan Black:
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:58 pm
by dmjcat
UAEebs86 wrote:Make them match up with us. They can't guard Rondae and Stanley.
We lost last year because of lack of offense, not because of Kaminsky.
They can't guard Rondae???? What the hell are you smoking????
Rondae can't shoot, can't dribble, and is a human turnover machine in traffic.
Stanley......I agree. We should have a physical advantage at his spot.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:59 pm
by Gladiator Cat
This is all just noise for the most part.........there ain't anyone beating Kentucky this year.
That's as sure a bet as has ever existed on the planet in the last 100 years.
A FF for Sean and this team would be great but getting your ass handed to you buy Kentucky in the FF once you get there.........not so much. There will be no shame in losing to Kentucky in the FF because they are very likely the best team in the history of college basketball. Period.
Anyway its been a great season and finishing 34-4 will have been an incredible accomplishment.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:05 pm
by Longhorned
dmjcat wrote:UAEebs86 wrote:Make them match up with us. They can't guard Rondae and Stanley.
We lost last year because of lack of offense, not because of Kaminsky.
They can't guard Rondae???? What the hell are you smoking????
Rondae can't shoot, can't dribble, and is a human turnover machine in traffic.
Stanley......I agree. We should have a physical advantage at his spot.
Re-watch the Elite Eight game from last year. Rondae is Wisconsin's worst nightmare. In Wisconsin's man-to-man, Rondae lives in the paint. They don't have anybody who can guard him.
In zone situations, the opposing team packs the paint and Rondae has to fight to establish himself in the high post and pass. But a lot of the game is a scramble to find his way to the rim. He thrives in man-to-man coverage.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:13 pm
by Chicat
dmjcat wrote:They can't guard Rondae???? What the hell are you smoking????
Rondae can't shoot, can't dribble, and is a human turnover machine in traffic.
In the postseason (6 games) Rondae has 10 total turnovers, including 0 in the Xavier game.
Stanley has 9.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:16 pm
by gumby
Stainbrook was +4 on Tarc. Hope for that. Dekker didn't do a lot last year. People focus too much on the most recent game. That was Dekker's first double double of the year. He doesn't routinely put up numbers like that.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:17 pm
by gumby
dmjcat wrote:UAEebs86 wrote:Make them match up with us. They can't guard Rondae and Stanley.
We lost last year because of lack of offense, not because of Kaminsky.
They can't guard Rondae???? What the hell are you smoking????
Rondae can't shoot, can't dribble, and is a human turnover machine in traffic.
Stanley......I agree. We should have a physical advantage at his spot.
Always with the hard-ass exaggerations.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:18 pm
by WildcatStunner
closeout on 3's, crash the boards.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:30 pm
by psiclist23
When I saw WI, Kaminsky was spending a lot of time out by the 3 pt line. Should Zeus follow him out there? I don't know, but I'll say again, that everyone else has to win the game by more than Kaminsky beats Tarc (if he does). Sounds doable to me.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:38 pm
by gumby
Kaminsky was the only Badger who had a good offensive game last year. Make one of many missed bunnies and we win.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:06 am
by gumby
We've opened as a slight favorite, so there's a glimmer of hope.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:25 am
by WildHolcs
Repeat last year - Kaminsky can get his, just hold the other guys in check. Rely on an upgraded offense to get more than mid 50s in reg.
The dream would be to attack the paint early and get Kaminsky in some foul trouble. Use our athleticism to create open lanes and shots.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:52 am
by dmjcat
Chicat wrote:dmjcat wrote:They can't guard Rondae???? What the hell are you smoking????
Rondae can't shoot, can't dribble, and is a human turnover machine in traffic.
In the postseason (6 games) Rondae has 10 total turnovers, including 0 in the Xavier game.
Stanley has 9.
10 TO's and he hasn't been a primary ballhandler or go to guy. The reality is he doesn't handle the ball well and he's terrible in traffic. RHJ had a nice complimentary game last year against Whisky (10 pts, 4 rebounds). He needs to do the same thing again..........play defense, screen and rebound. If we try to turn him into Michael Jordan we will get our asses handed to us.
http://www.ncaa.com/game/basketball-men ... a/boxscore
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:01 am
by Puerco
Do all you guys have RiseAndFire on ignore? I find it odd that his bitchy little one-liner above got ignored completely.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:05 am
by CatsbyAZ
84Cat wrote:I think Bash might be our best option. Zeus is too slow to stay in front of him.
My gut too. Bash on Kam, RHJ on Dekker, Zeus goes on the tallest guy left even if it means he's fronting three's all night. Of all the ways to lose this game the worst option is to lose because Zeus gets hammered down low. We saw that unfold last night.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:06 am
by CatsbyAZ
UAEebs86 wrote:Make them match up with us. They can't guard Rondae and Stanley.
We lost last year because of lack of offense, not because of Kaminsky.
What? Kam lit us up whenever Wiscy needed a punch to count. We needed Bash bad that night.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:10 am
by Chicat
dmjcat wrote:Chicat wrote:dmjcat wrote:They can't guard Rondae???? What the hell are you smoking????
Rondae can't shoot, can't dribble, and is a human turnover machine in traffic.
In the postseason (6 games) Rondae has 10 total turnovers, including 0 in the Xavier game.
Stanley has 9.
10 TO's and he hasn't been a primary ballhandler or go to guy. The reality is he doesn't handle the ball well and he's terrible in traffic. RHJ had a nice complimentary game last year against Whisky (10 pts, 4 rebounds). He needs to do the same thing again..........play defense, screen and rebound. If we try to turn him into Michael Jordan we will get our asses handed to us.
http://www.ncaa.com/game/basketball-men ... a/boxscore
Less than 2 turnovers per game and he's "terrible in traffic" and a "turnover machine"? Ok dude, whatever you say.
Puerco wrote:Do all you guys have RiseAndFire on ignore? I find it odd that his bitchy little one-liner above got ignored completely.
Who?
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:16 am
by pokinmik
RHJ is terrible in traffic when he foolishly tries to drive thru 3 defenders, but who isn't in that situation. Don't let the one or two times he gets over-aggressive per game cloud your head. Otherwise RHJ is great at passing in the lane amongst the traffic and he's very strong with the ball.
Re: What is our strategy vs. Kaminsky and Decker?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:34 am
by HiCat
Saturday, March 28
Where:
Staples Center in Los Angeles, California
6:09 p.m. Eastern
http://heavy.com/sports/2015/03/wiscons ... nnel-line/