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Team loss in a Heartbreaker.

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:28 pm
by CalStateTempe
Outcoached again by Ryan, over thought the second half.

Sad way to end what was our best team for a FF in years.

And BTW, screw this #1 seed in the west crap. Ship us elsewhere with a favorable road.

Fuck it...I'm pissed.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:29 pm
by The Goat
Miller really needs to get out there and guard 3 point shooters better. When he learns how to do that maybe we will get to a final 4.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:29 pm
by Salty
Can't beat em when all Wisky did was drain three after three after three.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:30 pm
by SCCats
10/11 threes in the second half is on miller?

I guess I'm just going to disagree and leave it at that. They went wild and absolutely shoot the roof off the Staples Center. Kudos to them.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:30 pm
by cats101
10/12 good Lord

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:30 pm
by loomer
The Goat wrote:Miller really needs to get out there and guard 3 point shooters better. When he learns how to do that maybe we will get to a final 4.
Product of the packline. With such an efficient offensive team like Wisky it's a risky game to play

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:31 pm
by Main Event
Dekker hit a stepback fade away to ice the game, there's nothing you can do about that.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:31 pm
by PieceOfMeat
Sean Elite Eight Miller

Thing I disliked the most was letting wisconsin run their offense, la-dee-fucking-dah with under 2 minutes to play and us not fouling.

sure, let them run clock and then we foul, or let them run clock and make a three. sounds like an excellent strategy.

SEEM coached small at the end of the game.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:31 pm
by Bangkok Wildcat
cats101 wrote:10/12 good Lord
God hates us....;-). At least today anyways.....

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:32 pm
by PieceOfMeat
loomer wrote:
The Goat wrote:Miller really needs to get out there and guard 3 point shooters better. When he learns how to do that maybe we will get to a final 4.
Product of the packline. With such an efficient offensive team like Wisky it's a risky game to play
see, people are going to gloss over this fact loomer.

the packline DOES give up looks from 3. Yes some of wisc's makes were contested, but quite a few were good or wide open looks and they nailed them.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:32 pm
by Alieberman
Stupid stupid take. Wisky was insane from 3. Even if they were great from 3 but not insane, we win this game

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:32 pm
by Merkin
Only 3 mistakes I saw other than that a great job:

1. Starting Ashley to cover Kaminsky. 2 quick fouls.
2. Not having pressure defense with 7 minutes to go.
3. Not fouling immediately with 2 minutes left. At least twice Wisky ran out the shot clock before getting fouled.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:33 pm
by etank34
Nothing you can do when your opponent will not miss. That's the only way they beat us tonight. Still fucking hurts though

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:33 pm
by Salty
Arizona was the better team.

Wisky just couldn't miss.

It happens.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:34 pm
by SCCats
PieceOfMeat wrote:
loomer wrote:
The Goat wrote:Miller really needs to get out there and guard 3 point shooters better. When he learns how to do that maybe we will get to a final 4.
Product of the packline. With such an efficient offensive team like Wisky it's a risky game to play
see, people are going to gloss over this fact loomer.

the packline DOES give up looks from 3. Yes some of wisc's makes were contested, but quite a few were good or wide open looks and they nailed them.
It does give up those looks. And if they go 10 for 11 in the second half, you're fucked.

It happened. You know, if they go 6/11 we probably win. They went thermonuclear. Bad deal for us.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:35 pm
by PieceOfMeat
Merkin wrote: 2. Not having pressure defense with 7 minutes to go.
3. Not fouling immediately with 2 minutes left. At least twice Wisky ran out the shot clock before getting fouled.
I'm fine with BAsh starting on flopinsky. the refs screwed him though.

#'s 2 and 3 though, spot on.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:35 pm
by AZCatGirl
The last 3 was a sign that it was just their night. They could make shots blindfolded.

Yeah I don't get Miller's strategy at the end, but it's hard to win when a team can't miss from 3.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:36 pm
by CalStateTempe
I'm just pissed and physically hurt.

Worst loss since 2001

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:36 pm
by PieceOfMeat
AZCatGirl wrote:The last 3 was a sign that it was just their night. They could make shots blindfolded.

Yeah I don't get Miller's strategy at the end, but it's hard to win when a team can't miss from 3.
well it's hard to win when you just let them run clock and then shoot those 3's too. shoulda been fouling, then they can't take 3's.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:36 pm
by Merkin
CalStateTempe wrote:I'm just pissed and physically hurt.

Worst loss since 2001
Illinois was 100 times worse than this.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:37 pm
by loomer
It also doesn't help that we only made two 3's the whole game

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:38 pm
by 77HoyaCat4Ever
Merkin wrote:Only 3 mistakes I saw other than that a great job:

1. Starting Ashley to cover Kaminsky. 2 quick fouls.
2. Not having pressure defense with 7 minutes to go.
3. Not fouling immediately with 2 minutes left. At least twice Wisky ran out the shot clock before getting fouled.

Agree completely.


Dekker had a Big Pecker career night.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:39 pm
by 77HoyaCat4Ever
Merkin wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:I'm just pissed and physically hurt.

Worst loss since 2001
Illinois was 100 times worse than this.
One million times worse

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:39 pm
by AZCatGirl
PieceOfMeat wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:The last 3 was a sign that it was just their night. They could make shots blindfolded.

Yeah I don't get Miller's strategy at the end, but it's hard to win when a team can't miss from 3.
well it's hard to win when you just let them run clock and then shoot those 3's too. shoulda been fouling, then they can't take 3's.
That's why I said I didn't get what Miller was doing at the end. Obviously he screwed up, but it's not all his fault.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:39 pm
by Main Event
loomer wrote:It also doesn't help that we only made two 3's the whole game
We only took 6 lol We were getting to the rim rather easily to start the 2nd half, I didn't have a problem with that

Stanley getting his eye poked led to Pitts coming in, and Dekker then decided he wasn't going to miss once that happened

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:40 pm
by Salty
Main Event wrote:
loomer wrote:It also doesn't help that we only made two 3's the whole game
We only took 6 lol We were getting to the rim rather easily to start the 2nd half, I didn't have a problem with that

Stanley getting his eye poked led to Pitts coming in, and Dekker then decided he wasn't going to miss once that happened
I think that was the turning point of the game.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:40 pm
by The Butcher
how is this on anyone? They were ungodly from 3. UNFUCKINGGODLY. Nobody shoots that. Do you realize if they shot 55 percent from the 3 they would've lost? That's how unreal that performance was. This is on no one. It's just one of those things.

It's painful as hell, but it happened. Nobody shoots like that.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:40 pm
by Gladiator Cat
No way around it, but Miller is going to have to rethink his offensive mindset going forward.

It may have not mattered in this game but its clear shooters and scores win the games at the end of the day.

And Wisconsin has them.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:40 pm
by Salty
The Butcher wrote:how is this on anyone? They were ungodly from 3. UNFUCKINGGODLY. Nobody shoots that. Do you realize if they shot 55 percent from the 3 they would've lost? That's how unreal that performance was. This is on no one. It's just one of those things.

It's painful as hell, but it happened. Nobody shoots like that.
Agree

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:41 pm
by Harvey Specter
PieceOfMeat wrote:Sean Elite Eight Miller

Thing I disliked the most was letting wisconsin run their offense, la-dee-fucking-dah with under 2 minutes to play and us not fouling.

sure, let them run clock and then we foul, or let them run clock and make a three. sounds like an excellent strategy.

SEEM coached small at the end of the game.
Wait, I thought you were expecting Miller to win a Natty next year? But now you came up with that cute and clever little nickname for him...

I am confused.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:41 pm
by pokinmik
Alieberman wrote:Stupid stupid take. Wisky was insane from 3. Even if they were great from 3 but not insane, we win this game
That's what sucks. This game was ours they just got in a rare zone. It's always as hard as possible for our Cats...never a break.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:42 pm
by AZCatGirl
Gladiator Cat wrote:No way around it, but Miller is going to have to rethink his offensive mindset going forward.

It may have not mattered in this game but its clear shooters and scores win the games at the end of the day.

And Wisconsin has them.
It sounds like we're getting an ass load of scorers next year. So I don't think that will be an issue going forward.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:42 pm
by gumby
CalStateTempe wrote:Outcoached again by Ryan, over thought the second half.

Sad way to end what was our best team for a FF in years.

And BTW, screw this #1 seed in the west crap. Ship us elsewhere with a favorable road.

Fuck it...I'm pissed.
Take a walk next time.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:43 pm
by CalStateTempe
Merkin wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:I'm just pissed and physically hurt.

Worst loss since 2001
Illinois was 100 times worse than this.
No, we did that to ourselves. This one was pure refs and the 3 ball. 2001 redux.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:43 pm
by Merkin
Going to have Trier next year, finally a true scorer.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:43 pm
by rgdeuce
Not sure how this is on Miller. We could have done a few things better but we win this game comfortably if its called fairly and these dudes arent all Larry bird in the second half

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:44 pm
by azcat49
12 threes in the second half, most of them contested. Just not our night

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:44 pm
by billk78
The Butcher wrote:how is this on anyone? They were ungodly from 3. UNFUCKINGGODLY. Nobody shoots that. Do you realize if they shot 55 percent from the 3 they would've lost? That's how unreal that performance was. This is on no one. It's just one of those things.

It's painful as hell, but it happened. Nobody shoots like that.
Well said. They probably would have beaten Kentucky tonight.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:44 pm
by CalStateTempe
gumby wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Outcoached again by Ryan, over thought the second half.

Sad way to end what was our best team for a FF in years.

And BTW, screw this #1 seed in the west crap. Ship us elsewhere with a favorable road.

Fuck it...I'm pissed.
Take a walk next time.
Going now...

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:44 pm
by Gladiator Cat
Going to be really interesting to see who goes PRO now other than SJ.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:45 pm
by PieceOfMeat
Harvey Specter wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:Sean Elite Eight Miller

Thing I disliked the most was letting wisconsin run their offense, la-dee-fucking-dah with under 2 minutes to play and us not fouling.

sure, let them run clock and then we foul, or let them run clock and make a three. sounds like an excellent strategy.

SEEM coached small at the end of the game.
Wait, I thought you were expecting Miller to win a Natty next year? But now you came up with that cute and clever little nickname for him...

I am confused.
You obviously didn't read that thread after you posted. So yeah, you would be confused. ;)

P.s., I was on record all year as saying elite 8 was this team's finish.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:45 pm
by Salty
azcat49 wrote:12 threes in the second half, most of them contested. Just not our night
That's 30 points...

If those are twos, we win.

If they go 7/12, which is ungodly good on its own, we win.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:45 pm
by Harvey Specter
You will never beat an Elite 8 quality team that shoots from 3 like Wisconsin did tonight. Ever. Notre Dame does that and UK is going down.

That is a fact, not that it is expected to make anyone feel better. Maybe all the "Elite 8 ceiling posts" will. I too wish we would have started fouling earlier. That outcome wasn't changing, though. It sucks... But in Miller I trust. I

I get that all the overachievers on this board need to find fault with someone that the team fell short of their own personal high standards for accomplishment; they'll just need to keep raising their games to your high standards.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:46 pm
by billk78
Gladiator Cat wrote:Going to be really interesting to see who goes PRO now other than SJ.
Probably everyone. Unless they decide there is some unfinished business....but I just don't see it.

Stanley, Zeus, Ashley, Rondae all pretty much gone.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:47 pm
by EastCoastCat
Get a grip people...

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:48 pm
by WildHolcs
Depressed as F and can't stand that flopping bitch kaminsky. Seriously one of the biggest whiners i've seen in recent years. That being said they got hotter than they ever have been from downtown ... shit just happens sometimes in basketball. The guys played fine for the most part but there's not much we could've done. IF we played this team in a 7 game series, I'd take us in a heartbeat but 1 and dones the best team doesn't always win. The shittiest thing is the luck against us, stuff just keeps happening in elite 8...it's really becoming depressing and annoying as f

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:49 pm
by Gladiator Cat
billk78 wrote:
Gladiator Cat wrote:Going to be really interesting to see who goes PRO now other than SJ.
Probably everyone. Unless they decide there is some unfinished business....but I just don't see it.

Stanley, Zeus, Ashley, Rondae all pretty much gone.

Yeah, should be interesting to see how it works out. This is a stunningly painful loss.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:49 pm
by splitsecond
Whisky played the exact game needed to beat us and the same thing that will have to happen for anyone to beat Kentucly. Have to get super hot from the outside. Unfortunately this sort of luck doesn't last so they will be back to normal next game.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:50 pm
by BibbysTowelDude
Why do some of you keep saying most of these threes were contested? 99 percent of them were open by 3 feet or more.

I'm not gonna blame Miller for a ton, I am however going to shit on him for completely giving up at the end. Down 5 with 50 seconds and he... quit.

Re: This ones on Miller

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:51 pm
by billk78
Bad luck getting in a bracket with Wisconsin (second best team in nation)
Bad luck losing Stanley for part of the game with a poke in the eye
Bad luck having a team shoot lights out.

What can you do? I think if we played any other team in college basketball tonight, except Kentucky, we probably would've won.