Stat of the night
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:51 pm
Just checked the box score.. One minute left and Arizona only has one player with more than one assist. That player is Kaleb Tarczewski, with two.
Hey duke lost in the first round to mercer before the loaded up and won the title last year! Just saying! BEARDOWN and bring on 16-17Gilbertcat wrote:Love how Az losing being an underdog and lower ranked is a huge upset in the media's eye. Dumb idiots are just pouring it on. Remember it all for an up year is coming.
Not really this is all on the playerscats101 wrote:Miller got worked
3goggles wrote:Not really this is all on the playerscats101 wrote:Miller got worked
Yep, we get JJ this will be the hope! Could definitely happen. Final Four in Phoenix will be epic.3goggles wrote:Hey duke lost in the first round to mercer before the loaded up and won the title last year! Just saying! BEARDOWN and bring on 16-17Gilbertcat wrote:Love how Az losing being an underdog and lower ranked is a huge upset in the media's eye. Dumb idiots are just pouring it on. Remember it all for an up year is coming.
Just had to congratulate some WSU cousins on FB....the only saving grace was they hate KU too . Didn't get to see this horrible game but am not surprised by this team.....just really sorry to see Zeus go out this way.catgrad97 wrote:Credit to Wichita, but this team got what was coming to it.
It really sucks to be the worse defensive team in a game. That really hasn't happened to us for years, but it happened a lot this year.dirtbags wrote:it's too bad we hadn't played wichita state earlier in the season so our guys could have actually seen what a constricting defense is supposed to look like. and then hopefully emulate it.
great performance by wsu. i'm not s gregg marshall fan, but best of luck to the shockers on saturday vs. miami.
Dont disagree, but there were plenty of turnovers that resulted in fast breaks where guys stood in the middle of the paint (Zo) and gave a half hearted effort to draw a charge, or guys gave half hearted contests on layups, or didnt even run back or did so half speed. And since these problems persisted all year, effort has to be part of the blame in terms of giving little effort to improve on those things or learn from the mistakes. For as many mental breakdown turnovers we have, we had plenty due to lazy passes, guys not working to get better passing angles and just lofting an entry pass in, or guys getting pressured and guys just standing there instead of running to the ball to help. I think its both mental and effort.Spaceman Spiff wrote:RG, I harped on focus and intensity in another thread, and I see the TO's as a symptom of a lack of focus and intensity. All year we had hosts of unforced errors, bad entry passes to the post, just straight coughing up the ball.
That for me is a complete hallmark of a team lacking in focus and intensity. You can play as hard as you want, but if you're not mentally into the game, you bleed possessions all over the place and you simply don't overcome that.
And Gonzaga wasn't a good team.gumby wrote:Game was a microcosm. Couldn't beat a good team outside McKale after the Gonzaga game. Couldn't handle strong guard play. Need a serious upgrade in the backcourt, a recommitment to defense and a shit ton of new shirts for coach.
Weren't people talking at the beginning of this year about the chemistry being better than it was at the beginning of last year? Have to say I never really saw it....though that may be mixed with the lack of leadership since York and Zeus seem to be good guys but don't bring the team together the way NJ or TJ did.rgdeuce wrote:Dont disagree, but there were plenty of turnovers that resulted in fast breaks where guys stood in the middle of the paint (Zo) and gave a half hearted effort to draw a charge, or guys gave half hearted contests on layups, or didnt even run back or did so half speed. And since these problems persisted all year, effort has to be part of the blame in terms of giving little effort to improve on those things or learn from the mistakes. For as many mental breakdown turnovers we have, we had plenty due to lazy passes, guys not working to get better passing angles and just lofting an entry pass in, or guys getting pressured and guys just standing there instead of running to the ball to help. I think its both mental and effort.Spaceman Spiff wrote:RG, I harped on focus and intensity in another thread, and I see the TO's as a symptom of a lack of focus and intensity. All year we had hosts of unforced errors, bad entry passes to the post, just straight coughing up the ball.
That for me is a complete hallmark of a team lacking in focus and intensity. You can play as hard as you want, but if you're not mentally into the game, you bleed possessions all over the place and you simply don't overcome that.
From a complete outsiders perspective, it seemed like people got along very well. In hindsight, you wonder if people got along too well. You need some edge, intensity and fire and we never seemed to have an excess of that. Just a bunch of nice guys.legallykenny wrote:Weren't people talking at the beginning of this year about the chemistry being better than it was at the beginning of last year? Have to say I never really saw it....though that may be mixed with the lack of leadership since York and Zeus seem to be good guys but don't bring the team together the way NJ or TJ did.rgdeuce wrote:Dont disagree, but there were plenty of turnovers that resulted in fast breaks where guys stood in the middle of the paint (Zo) and gave a half hearted effort to draw a charge, or guys gave half hearted contests on layups, or didnt even run back or did so half speed. And since these problems persisted all year, effort has to be part of the blame in terms of giving little effort to improve on those things or learn from the mistakes. For as many mental breakdown turnovers we have, we had plenty due to lazy passes, guys not working to get better passing angles and just lofting an entry pass in, or guys getting pressured and guys just standing there instead of running to the ball to help. I think its both mental and effort.Spaceman Spiff wrote:RG, I harped on focus and intensity in another thread, and I see the TO's as a symptom of a lack of focus and intensity. All year we had hosts of unforced errors, bad entry passes to the post, just straight coughing up the ball.
That for me is a complete hallmark of a team lacking in focus and intensity. You can play as hard as you want, but if you're not mentally into the game, you bleed possessions all over the place and you simply don't overcome that.
Eventually became good. At the best time to be good. Nonetheless, it was a good win.legallykenny wrote:And Gonzaga wasn't a good team.gumby wrote:Game was a microcosm. Couldn't beat a good team outside McKale after the Gonzaga game. Couldn't handle strong guard play. Need a serious upgrade in the backcourt, a recommitment to defense and a shit ton of new shirts for coach.
Wichita State would've been our best win of the season. People seem to be ignoring just how bad our schedule was this year.
At the end of the day its JC ball. I played w a couple of guys that Werent that good and they still ended up at Pima. Less size, less talent for the most part. Saw a couple of guys who ended up at JC's due to grades/eligibilty issues. You get some D1 transfers too. One was a Cincinatti recruit who I believe didnt score high enough on his SATs or ACTs. He looked like Jordan at that level at 6'5 and grabbed double digit rebounds as a wing. Cant recall where he transferred after, but he didnt get a whole lot of minutes and I never heard his name again. Rafael Araujo was another guy I saw, he went on to BYU and became an NBA lottery pick. I think the only reason he started at a JC was because he was a foreign player. Ronnie Price (Lakers/Jazz) was another guy, he left a D1 and ended up at a JC to avoid sitting out a year. Hes a guy that really took everyone by surprise and developed in college though, doubt he was even a top 200 guy out of high schoolgumby wrote:Find it puzzling that Kadeem was such a high scorer in JC. Must not defend on that level.
He was never a great shooter. I remember being worried that he only shot 30% from 3 in JC. The level jump, it just isn't easy to do the same things that succeed in JC.gumby wrote:Find it puzzling that Kadeem was such a high scorer in JC. Must not defend on that level.