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Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:57 pm
by YoDeFoe
Should we do a starting lineup guessing thread that's gonna make us all look silly in the fall? Am I going to have a beer at lunch to ease out of my Memorial Day Weekend hangover? Sure why not what's the worst that could happen.

Let's do [Start of Season] / [End of Season] as categories. Or whatever.

[SoS]
Coleman
Smith
Akot
Luther
Jeter

[EoS]
Williams
Randolph
Akot
Luther
Jeter

DD, OT, AB get minimal minutes, the other 8 are in the rotation.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:00 pm
by midnightx
Your EoS line-up is a good one. Randolph should start over Smith from day one. Smith is a rotation player at best. If Williams is ready, he should get the nod.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:19 pm
by EOCT
YoDeFoe wrote:Should we do a starting lineup guessing thread that's gonna make us all look silly in the fall? Am I going to have a beer at lunch to ease out of my Memorial Day Weekend hangover? Sure why not what's the worst that could happen.

Let's do [Start of Season] / [End of Season] as categories. Or whatever.

[SoS]
Coleman
Smith
Akot
Luther
Jeter

[EoS]
Williams
Randolph
Akot
Luther
Jeter

DD, OT, AB get minimal minutes, the other 8 are in the rotation.
I'm exactly with you on these, YDF.

Especially on the Akot placement right from the bell. I expect the dude to get the PT he deserves immediately and respond. I really hope Coach uses him as a PForward who can alternate with our PG of the moment in bringing the ball down, and a solid choice to bring the ball down when Williams is on the bench. Em has the vision, the handles, the body, and the scoring threat himself to drive most any conventional PG opponent nuts in my view. Can't wait to see him develop and show.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:33 pm
by azcat49
I think Coleman and Williams start from the get go. I think Akot, Luther and Jeter round it out with Randolph and Smith being the first two off the bench on the perimeter and Lee the first big off the bench

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 2:43 pm
by YoDeFoe
Midnight: I think we all hope Randolph starts over Smith.

EOCT: You and me both on Akot. A more athletic / better handles / bigger version of Luke Walton? Too much to ask for?

49: Miller's penchant for starting guys who've already "proven" themselves forces me to start Smith from the get go.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:22 pm
by azcat49
Yo, I get you and you know your bball stuff but man, am I wrong to think we are in trouble if Smith earns that spot. He just seems to be to lose with the ball and if you have Coleman and Williams in the back court you have two PG's minimizing turnovers. Bring Randolph or Smith in at the 2 and 3 and you always have a PG in the game. Williams and Coleman splitting time seems to me to be a waste of our best players

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:30 pm
by baycat93
Like most, really hope EoS is a lot close to SoS than not.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 4:21 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
YoDeFoe wrote:Should we do a starting lineup guessing thread that's gonna make us all look silly in the fall? Am I going to have a beer at lunch to ease out of my Memorial Day Weekend hangover? Sure why not what's the worst that could happen.

Let's do [Start of Season] / [End of Season] as categories. Or whatever.

[SoS]
Coleman
Smith
Akot
Luther
Jeter

[EoS]
Williams
Randolph
Akot
Luther
Jeter

DD, OT, AB get minimal minutes, the other 8 are in the rotation.
That's more or less how I see it. The only real competition is Williams, Coleman, Randolph and Smith for the guard spots. I tend to think the frontcourt is set.

As I've said before, I hope Randolph is a starter asap. He has such a high ceiling, the sooner he can get there, the better off we are.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 4:23 pm
by YoDeFoe
azcat49 wrote:Yo, I get you and you know your bball stuff but man, am I wrong to think we are in trouble if Smith earns that spot. He just seems to be to lose with the ball and if you have Coleman and Williams in the back court you have two PG's minimizing turnovers. Bring Randolph or Smith in at the 2 and 3 and you always have a PG in the game. Williams and Coleman splitting time seems to me to be a waste of our best players
Yeah I agree - I think the idea is to play Coleman and Williams together and it's entirely possible (maybe likely?) they get the day one nod and are our starting backcourt the entire season. I'm couching my SoS based on Miller's habits and the EoS is based on my hopes for high upside players (Williams, Randolph, Akot).

But reality? Probably Coleman / Williams / (Smith or Akot or Randoph) / Luther / Jeter is our lineup for 85% of our games. It's not the sexiest but Miller's lineups rarely are.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 4:31 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
azcat49 wrote:Yo, I get you and you know your bball stuff but man, am I wrong to think we are in trouble if Smith earns that spot. He just seems to be to lose with the ball and if you have Coleman and Williams in the back court you have two PG's minimizing turnovers. Bring Randolph or Smith in at the 2 and 3 and you always have a PG in the game. Williams and Coleman splitting time seems to me to be a waste of our best players
Generally, Miller tends to give veteran players first looks. Personally, that's why I think YDF's predictions have a good chance.

Coleman and Smith are a senior and 4 year junior. It would be a Miller thing to do to let them get the first shot. Williams and Randolph have higher ceilings, so hopefully they take over.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:11 pm
by ChooChooCat
Coleman didnt transfer to Arizona to sit. On the same foot Williams didn't recommit to Arizona to sit. Both start to begin and end the season. Akot, Randolph, Smith battle is out for the starting 3 spot. Luther at the 4 and Jeter at the 5. Lee and the two wings who don't start at the 3 are your rotation. Maybe room for one more guy, but he's gonna have to earn it.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:04 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
ChooChooCat wrote:Coleman didnt transfer to Arizona to sit. On the same foot Williams didn't recommit to Arizona to sit. Both start to begin and end the season. Akot, Randolph, Smith battle is out for the starting 3 spot. Luther at the 4 and Jeter at the 5. Lee and the two wings who don't start at the 3 are your rotation. Maybe room for one more guy, but he's gonna have to earn it.
You don't think Doutrive cracks the rotation?

I'm ok with it if he doesn't. Being more patient with player development is a virtue and we could use a couple guys who marinate for a few years. Doutrive type prospects can be the sort of veteran rocks like Kadeem that made so much difference.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:53 pm
by goslingswagg
ChooChooCat wrote:Coleman didnt transfer to Arizona to sit. On the same foot Williams didn't recommit to Arizona to sit. Both start to begin and end the season. Akot, Randolph, Smith battle is out for the starting 3 spot. Luther at the 4 and Jeter at the 5. Lee and the two wings who don't start at the 3 are your rotation. Maybe room for one more guy, but he's gonna have to earn it.
Agree with this. Hope that one of DD or OT play themselves into the rotation though.

Re: Starting Lineup '18-19

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 9:51 pm
by ChooChooCat
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Coleman didnt transfer to Arizona to sit. On the same foot Williams didn't recommit to Arizona to sit. Both start to begin and end the season. Akot, Randolph, Smith battle is out for the starting 3 spot. Luther at the 4 and Jeter at the 5. Lee and the two wings who don't start at the 3 are your rotation. Maybe room for one more guy, but he's gonna have to earn it.
You don't think Doutrive cracks the rotation?

I'm ok with it if he doesn't. Being more patient with player development is a virtue and we could use a couple guys who marinate for a few years. Doutrive type prospects can be the sort of veteran rocks like Kadeem that made so much difference.
Never said it's impossible, I just think Williams, Randolph, Akot, and Smith will get vast majority of the wing minutes. If Akot ends up playing a lot of 4 that could open up more minutes for Doutrive or Thielemans.