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39mins - 27pts - 6-14fg - 2-6(3pt) - 13-15ft - 4rb - 7a - 1blk - 1st - 2to
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I am in awe as fuck.
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97cats wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:12 pm 39mins - 27pts - 6-14fg - 2-6(3pt) - 13-15ft - 4rb - 7a - 1blk - 1st - 2to
*insert Jordan shrug gif*
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I think you should put a “Mr.” or “Sir” in front of this thread title.

Or maybe just “Our Stud”
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And I thought he wasnt having a great game!! He makes tough threes which gives our entire team a confidence boost.
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97cats wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:12 pm 39mins - 27pts - 6-14fg - 2-6(3pt) - 13-15ft - 4rb - 7a - 1blk - 1st - 2to
As awesome as those numbers are, they just can’t capture just how awesome his performance was! The second three was world class!! In the last quarter of the game, every time he got the ball on the perimeter, I was screaming “clear out!!!” at the TV!!
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He really turned up the heat after a slow start.
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Offensive foul of the year.
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UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:32 pm Offensive foul of the year.
In person it looked like he started falling backward even before contact. Not sure what the TV showed.
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VegasCatFan wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:54 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:32 pm Offensive foul of the year.
In person it looked like he started falling backward even before contact. Not sure what the TV showed.
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Should have been a no call.
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pc in NM wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:26 pm As awesome as those numbers are, they just can’t capture just how awesome his performance was! The second three was world class!! In the last quarter of the game, every time he got the ball on the perimeter, I was screaming “clear out!!!” at the TV!!
good post - the second three off the same paint to elbow screen action that worked first play coming out of the half was a bigtime next level shot.

Mathurin coulda had an and-one on that, the defensive player cant impede the shooters ability to land in their natural path.

he was undercut slightly on the way down and it very easily coulda been called, imo.
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I hope his last 6 games as a Wildcat are something special....
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Is he going lotto? What’s the consensus?
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RaisingArizona wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:05 pm
VegasCatFan wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:54 pm
UAEebs86 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:32 pm Offensive foul of the year.
In person it looked like he started falling backward even before contact. Not sure what the TV showed.
Man, if he'd converted this, it might've been the greatest ever AZ dunk on ucla.
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CalStateTempe wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:01 pm Is he going lotto? What’s the consensus?
NBADraft.net has him going 6th to the Kings...so yeah.
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Benn is a lock for the lotto. Only question is how high he goes. I'd say top 7 for sure. Smith, Ivey and Holmgren are probably the first three picks, not sure about order.
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Nice!
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Alieberman wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:49 am I hope his last 6 games as a Wildcat are something special....
How sweet is that video?!?!?
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Chicat wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:12 pm
Alieberman wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:49 am I hope his last 6 games as a Wildcat are something special....
How sweet is that video?!?!?
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the 3:36 mark on that vid tho
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Special player, special person. We are so damn lucky to have him at UofA.
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second team All-American
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I assumed so. Was hoping first team but that was going to be tough.

But on the bright side extra motivation for Benn over the next 3 weeks.
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Hope he gets to go head-to-head with some of those on 1st team
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EastCoastCat wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:45 am I assumed so. Was hoping first team but that was going to be tough.

But on the bright side extra motivation for Benn over the next 3 weeks.
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97cats wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:43 am second team All-American
The first team has two centers wtf
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Alieberman wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:46 am Hope he gets to go head-to-head with some of those on 1st team
me too but Illinois wont be there...and im assuming most of the rest of the BIF10 wont either - the conf is poised for an early round(s) blood bath.
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I’d take the second team over the first team head-to-head.
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97cats wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:48 am
Alieberman wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:46 am Hope he gets to go head-to-head with some of those on 1st team
me too but Illinois wont be there...and im assuming most of the rest of the BIF10 wont either - the conf is poised for an early round(s) blood bath.
Gonna be very interesting to see if this "Big 10 is overrated" thing holds any water this week. I'm seeing it everywhere.
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Apparently the voters were only allowed to watch the Big 10 channel...
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The second team would whip the first teams ass
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:15 am The second team would whip the first teams ass
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Except there's no hiding Jaden Ivey on defense,
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7-18 FGs
4-10 3 PT
5 boards
No assists
No FTs
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I only give him credit for 3.5 threes
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Merkin wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:55 pm 7-18 FGs
4-10 3 PT
5 boards
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Would like him to cut the 3 point attempts in half and attack the rim more. He's too athletic to settle for 30 footers.
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Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:51 pm Would like him to cut the 3 point attempts in half and attack the rim more. He's too athletic to settle for 30 footers.
And not get any foul attempts. Dude is a frickin' lottery pick and he won't take it inside?
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Merkin wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:24 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:51 pm Would like him to cut the 3 point attempts in half and attack the rim more. He's too athletic to settle for 30 footers.
And not get any foul attempts. Dude is a frickin' lottery pick and he won't take it inside?
Yeah. It irritates the shit out of me to see guys as athletic as Benn settle for low percentage shots. He's not a good enough 3 point shooter to take 10 in a game. It makes me wonder about his confidence in driving to the basket. He does get stripped at times, but more often, he gets into the lane without trouble. Takes a lot of floaters. If he doesn't get better at drawing contact and getting to the line, he's going to struggle at the next level.
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Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:26 pm
Merkin wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:24 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:51 pm Would like him to cut the 3 point attempts in half and attack the rim more. He's too athletic to settle for 30 footers.
And not get any foul attempts. Dude is a frickin' lottery pick and he won't take it inside?
Yeah. It irritates the shit out of me to see guys as athletic as Benn settle for low percentage shots. He's not a good enough 3 point shooter to take 10 in a game. It makes me wonder about his confidence in driving to the basket. He does get stripped at times, but more often, he gets into the lane without trouble. Takes a lot of floaters. If he doesn't get better at drawing contact and getting to the line, he's going to struggle at the next level.
I understand your first point, which is valid, but the part in bold is inane.

He made 4 of them, and he shot 38% for the year. That is as efficient as 57% inside the arc, 11th in the conference and best on the team among players averaging at least one made per game.
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33mins - 18pts - 7-18fg - 4-10(3pt) - 0-0ft - 5rb - 0a - 0blk - 0st - 4to

expect a more complete game Sunday from Mathurin - thought his play today was way too loose and was reflected in zero assists, no free throw attempts, and four turnovers.

not his best
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Harvey Specter wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:59 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:26 pm
Merkin wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:24 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:51 pm Would like him to cut the 3 point attempts in half and attack the rim more. He's too athletic to settle for 30 footers.
And not get any foul attempts. Dude is a frickin' lottery pick and he won't take it inside?
Yeah. It irritates the shit out of me to see guys as athletic as Benn settle for low percentage shots. He's not a good enough 3 point shooter to take 10 in a game. It makes me wonder about his confidence in driving to the basket. He does get stripped at times, but more often, he gets into the lane without trouble. Takes a lot of floaters. If he doesn't get better at drawing contact and getting to the line, he's going to struggle at the next level.
I understand your first point, which is valid, but the part in bold is inane.

He made 4 of them, and he shot 38% for the year. That is as efficient as 57% inside the arc, 11th in the conference and best on the team among players averaging at least one made per game.
I guess I'd just ask whether anyone besides Kriisa should ever take 10 threes for us. I'm focused on Benn because he has rare quickness and athleticism. He's our slasher. DT has some slashing ability too. But when we're running weaves at the top of the key, trying to open up space and create scoring looks, Benn is our best dribble drive penetration option. He can get into the key against most teams, whenever he wants. When he shoots from inside the key, either on a floater or layup, those are always going to be higher % shots than threes. Plus he could get fouled. He's not getting to the line shooting 30 footers.
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I feel like he forces shots at times.
Maybe a reaction today to being 2nd team instead of first?
Maybe trying to be too much of a force?
Tonight he also shot some fade-a- ways, he made them but they drive me crazy. He is too skilled to have to rely on those shots. It reminded me of Trier near the end of his time here. Trier seemed to not want to get to the basket late in his career at U of A.

I will say, he and AT put up way more points than it seems like.
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Teams will continue to clog the lane against us and that effects his slashing ability.

And yesterday I thought that offensive foul in the first half and a couple of drives to the rim where he was physically stopped changed his approach.

But he did have a couple of sweet mid range pull up jumpers which I think he will need to use more.
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Came up big when we needed him. Thank you Benn!
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We needed an All American game from Benn tonight... and we got it
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