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PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:02 am Is Heeke or anyone else in the Athletic Department gonna do something about the student chanting fuck all the time(

Tommy Lloyd addresses postgame incident between Arizona student section, UCLA player

By Brian J. Pedersen Feb 5, 2022, 5:09pm PST

Arizona’s student section has showed up and showed out the last few games, with players regularly citing their energy as helping in recent wins. But in the last two men’s basketball contests at McKale Center, the Zona Zoo has found itself getting involved in controversy.

A postgame incident Thursday night between some students and UCLA freshman Mac Etienne, which resulted in Etienne being arrested and cited for misdemeanor assault after allegedly spitting at fans, was followed up by several expletive-laden chants toward USC players during Saturday’s 72-63 victory.

The first of those, aimed at USC guard Boogie Ellis, came less than a minute into the game after he and Arizona’s Dalen Terry knocked heads going for a loose ball and resulted in both players going to their respective locker rooms to be evaluated before returning. UA athletic director Dave Heeke could be seen strolling through the Zona Zoo shortly after that, but the chants continued throughout the game.

UA coach Tommy Lloyd called the post-UCLA incident “disappointing, probably on both sides” but also said he didn’t know what led to it happening.

“I think we could all come to this deal, and we could be rowdy, have a damn good time, but I don’t think we need to get personal with student athletes, and I don’t I don’t even know if it was,” Lloyd said. “At Arizona, our goal should be to be the rowdiest, classiest fan base in the country.”

The Wildcats won’t play again at McKale until Feb. 17 against Oregon State, their next three games being on the road. The first of those is Monday at ASU, where the 942 Crew student section is known for its “Curtain of Distraction” gimmick behind the opponent’s basket during the second half.

“I hope their gym will be packed,” said UA’s Azuolas Tubelis, who hit the game-winning basket to beat the Sun Devils in Tempe last January.

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:13 am Curtain of shit

USC shot better than their season average vs the curtain of shit last week

Alieberman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:19 am Not to show my old age but it really is out of hand and does not promote a very family friendly environment. Not to mention the lack of all creatively

97cats wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:21 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:19 am Not to show my old age but it really is out of hand and does not promote a very family friendly environment. Not to mention the lack of all creatively

and yet they live and die by the thing, promote it and love it, talk about it and invest in it - its that part that makes it so god dang funny to me.

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:57 am Just yesterday a poster said "Nice shot buddy" was low class LOL.

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:06 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:57 am Just yesterday a poster said "Nice shot buddy" was low class LOL.

To be clear it was my father who said it wasn’t classy many years ago about UCLA fans who used to do something similar so that has stuck with me.

I think spitting, swearing or chanting something related to a players fathers assassination is low class.

Alieberman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:19 am Not to show my old age but it really is out of hand and does not promote a very family friendly environment. Not to mention the lack of all creatively

RondaeShimmy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:38 pm My problem with the crowd was them chanting overrated at UCLA after winning, like UCLA didn't smoke Arizona a week ago.

97cats wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:26 am yes no vulgarity at the games, not cool...just like the curtain of distraction which f*ck ASU thinks is cool, its not.

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:20 pm And Merkin said he didn't like it.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:00 am The thing that bothers me most is some guy on the opposing team does a deplorable act and now we are the ones that have to self-reflect, whilst all fanbases in every other sport say worse, much like what ODogg just said. To my knowledge the guy hasn't even apologized for his actions, yet we're the ones that need to feel bad. It's just ridiculous.

Also after beating UCLA, ASU fans were chanting "Fuck U of A," but there's nothing wrong with that apparently.

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:57 am I get that we want the student section to behave better without the language.

But I took my boys to a suns game and it was way worse. And don’t get me started on what happens at every nfl game.

If you take families anywhere nowadays, this is part of leaving the house.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:00 am The thing that bothers me most is some guy on the opposing team does a deplorable act and now we are the ones that have to self-reflect, whilst all fanbases in every other sport say worse, much like what ODogg just said. To my knowledge the guy hasn't even apologized for his actions, yet we're the ones that need to feel bad. It's just ridiculous.

Also after beating UCLA, ASU fans were chanting "Fuck U of A," but there's nothing wrong with that apparently.

Fishclamps wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:01 am I dont really mind swearing and I feel like a lot of people these days don't necessarily care either. I didn't see any families at the game fainting from hearing the word fuck

Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:05 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:00 am The thing that bothers me most is some guy on the opposing team does a deplorable act and now we are the ones that have to self-reflect, whilst all fanbases in every other sport say worse, much like what ODogg just said. To my knowledge the guy hasn't even apologized for his actions, yet we're the ones that need to feel bad. It's just ridiculous.

Also after beating UCLA, ASU fans were chanting "Fuck U of A," but there's nothing wrong with that apparently.

According to Ben Bolch, LA Times beat writer who covers the Bruins, the guy that was arrested for spitting on people is the real victim and every UA fan is the real criminal.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:12 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:57 am I get that we want the student section to behave better without the language.

But I took my boys to a suns game and it was way worse. And don’t get me started on what happens at every nfl game.

If you take families anywhere nowadays, this is part of leaving the house.

More than that, maybe I'm the only one, but I've joined a "Bullshit" chant after a bad call.

Point being, I think there's a way to move forward with encouraging less profanity without getting overheated about it. The Zoo isn't doing anything shocking or unique vs other events and you want to encourage engagement and passion, but you can try to rein it in without being overly self-righteous.

Like I remember when Sean Miller offered chants for the crowd. I think that's a better tack than simple criticism.

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:31 am

Fishclamps wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:01 am I dont really mind swearing and I feel like a lot of people these days don't necessarily care either. I didn't see any families at the game fainting from hearing the word fuck

Just because no one is fainting means the students are okay doing it. It is stupid and lazy and this is from someone who says fuck asu all day

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:57 am I get that we want the student section to behave better without the language.

But I took my boys to a suns game and it was way worse. And don’t get me started on what happens at every nfl game.

If you take families anywhere nowadays, this is part of leaving the house.

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:13 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:57 am I get that we want the student section to behave better without the language.

But I took my boys to a suns game and it was way worse. And don’t get me started on what happens at every nfl game.

If you take families anywhere nowadays, this is part of leaving the house.

^^^^^ +1 As soon as you move from the individual to the aggregate all bets are off on human behavior. And the entertainment/gladiatorial arena nature of sports makes the difference even worse than politics. 14,400 people enclosed in a moment modeled on the psychology of trench warfare .... what could possibly result? I'm a vulgar man and even I'm appalled at some McKale behaviors, but it's more about hogging space around me, or certain body odors. If people won't even put on deodorant before spending more than 2 hours in a sardine can how can you expect them to rein in their mouths?

PHXCATS wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:39 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:12 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:57 am I get that we want the student section to behave better without the language.

But I took my boys to a suns game and it was way worse. And don’t get me started on what happens at every nfl game.

If you take families anywhere nowadays, this is part of leaving the house.

More than that, maybe I'm the only one, but I've joined a "Bullshit" chant after a bad call.

Point being, I think there's a way to move forward with encouraging less profanity without getting overheated about it. The Zoo isn't doing anything shocking or unique vs other events and you want to encourage engagement and passion, but you can try to rein it in without being overly self-righteous.

Like I remember when Sean Miller offered chants for the crowd. I think that's a better tack than simple criticism.

There is a major difference in my opinion between chanting bullshit for 15 seconds after a bad call and chanting fuck asu the entire game

Back in the day there would be Zona Zoo fliers and Zona Zoo leaders. Now would be a good time to bring those back

Fishclamps wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:22 am

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:13 am

Olsondogg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:57 am I get that we want the student section to behave better without the language.

But I took my boys to a suns game and it was way worse. And don’t get me started on what happens at every nfl game.

If you take families anywhere nowadays, this is part of leaving the house.

^^^^^ +1 As soon as you move from the individual to the aggregate all bets are off on human behavior. And the entertainment/gladiatorial arena nature of sports makes the difference even worse than politics. 14,400 people enclosed in a moment modeled on the psychology of trench warfare .... what could possibly result? I'm a vulgar man and even I'm appalled at some McKale behaviors, but it's more about hogging space around me, or certain body odors. If people won't even put on deodorant before spending more than 2 hours in a sardine can how can you expect them to rein in their mouths?

Damn I feel that. The UCLA game I was stuck next to a smelly old man who kept his legs as wide as possible and using my leg as an armrest

azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:45 am I really don't care what the student section chants as long as it's not racist, etc.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:01 am The irony is that the comment that sent Etienne off wasn't an expletive at all, but rather calling him Britney Griner. So we're making a mountain out of a molehill here about the bad words naturally.