General Malaise and Complaining about the Football Program

[CalStateTempe]

Lmao our ad is a dumpster fire right now

[Merkin]

Big name frosh starter? Scottie Young Jr or Kylan Wilborn?

[chiefzona]

I have to hand it to the AD and RR. They are fighting this and it's probably going to fall into a false allegation. This kid is lucky. Means that he'll get to play vs Colorado. I don't give out kudos often but I will here.

[dmjcat]

Look at the bright side folks.

Given RR's recruiting results we can be absolutely certain that he doesn't cheat at recruiting!!

[OSUCat]

Look at the bright side folks.

Given RR's recruiting results we can be absolutely certain that he doesn't cheat at recruiting!!

But we get the best Walk Ons, whats the going rate for them?

[azcat49]

I have to hand it to the AD and RR. They are fighting this and it's probably going to fall into a false allegation. This kid is lucky. Means that he'll get to play vs Colorado. I don't give out kudos often but I will here.

Are they fighting because they should? Orlando Bradford and his temper comes to mind

[chiefzona]

I have to hand it to the AD and RR. They are fighting this and it's probably going to fall into a false allegation. This kid is lucky. Means that he'll get to play vs Colorado. I don't give out kudos often but I will here.

Are they fighting because they should? Orlando Bradford and his temper comes to mind

They think they can get it dropped.

[azcat49]

Well then I assume if you are giving them credit you must feel it was not a legit charge.

I know RR has said if you hit a women you are done so one can only hope the information backs what is being attempted

[chiefzona]

Well then I assume if you are giving them credit you must feel it was not a legit charge.

I know RR has said if you hit a women you are done so one can only hope the information backs what is being attempted

Coaches feel it's manufactured. She was charged as well so a chance it could be dropped.

[dmjcat]

Look at the bright side folks.

Given RR's recruiting results we can be absolutely certain that he doesn't cheat at recruiting!!

But we get the best Walk Ons, whats the going rate for them?

I believe the walk-ons have to pay RRod

[Harvey Specter]

This whole thing has saved RRs job. Since the entire basketball program is a question mark we don't have the leeway financially to go looking for a new football coach and to pay buyouts. RR is here for a while now.

I am not sure why you keep saying this. If my (and others') understanding of the retention bonus is accurate, cutting RR loose at the end of this season is essentially a revenue neutral transaction. We keep the remaining 50% of his O&G LLP sales, and payoff his buyout. I believe those sums come close to balancing each other out.

After Jam 2018, if we release him he collects his buyout AND 100% of his retention shares.

Unless we want to keep him after this year, there is no financial reason to.

[TheGreatCatsby]

Yea, I say start fresh with new football coach, clear expectations, and see how basketball plays out.

[FlyonWall]

Are the coaches so oblivious they don't realize the strength and conditioning staff are making the players walk stadium steps carrying 50lb sandbags in the middle of a game week? When RR feigns ignorance as to why there are so many injuries, apparently he really is ignorant. Offseason = the time to build strength, game week = the time to keep players in game condition. Unbelievable.

[Alieberman]

Has he really not benched Dawkins yet?

[Merkin]

Has he really not benched Dawkins yet?

That $6M buyout end of season looks better and better all the time to RichRod.

[chiefzona]

Has he really not benched Dawkins yet?

He's the starter.

[chiefzona]

Are the coaches so oblivious they don't realize the strength and conditioning staff are making the players walk stadium steps carrying 50lb sandbags in the middle of a game week? When RR feigns ignorance as to why there are so many injuries, apparently he really is ignorant. Offseason = the time to build strength, game week = the time to keep players in game condition. Unbelievable.

RR doesn't give a fuck. He does what he does no matter what the fall out or concern/s is or are.

[SirClinks]

Has he really not benched Dawkins yet?

That $6M buyout end of season looks better and better all the time to RichRod.

What a life.

[chiefzona]

Has he really not benched Dawkins yet?

That $6M buyout end of season looks better and better all the time to RichRod.

He wanted the South Carolina job and Rita nixed it. He checked out as HC.

[CalStateTempe]

Why did Rita mix it? Kids already in school?

[chiefzona]

Why did Rita mix it? Kids already in school?

I've heard that and not enough money.

[ramcat]

Certain it will come down to W and L's for RR this year, but this is W Parks on how instrumental RR was in his development.
Maybe more focused previously?

https://zonazealots.com/2017/10/04/will ... rodriguez/" target="_blank

[Harvey Specter]

Certain it will come down to W and L's for RR this year, but this is W Parks on how instrumental RR was in his development.
Maybe more focused previously?

https://zonazealots.com/2017/10/04/will ... rodriguez/" target="_blank

I don't doubt RR might have had a positive influence on WP's development (and I am sure he is being gracious)... but one guy in 6 years?

I'll add Scooby - that's 2.

[ramcat]

Certain it will come down to W and L's for RR this year, but this is W Parks on how instrumental RR was in his development.
Maybe more focused previously?

https://zonazealots.com/2017/10/04/will ... rodriguez/" target="_blank

I don't doubt RR might have had a positive influence on WP's development (and I am sure he is being gracious)... but one guy in 6 years?

I'll add Scooby - that's 2.

Again, I think maybe RR'S focus may have waned over time. Remember hearing Carey being complimentary of RR'S impact on his success as well as Bondurant, Jake Fischer, Tevis and BJ.

[scumdevils86]

Cuz he's largely checked out the last year.

[PHXCATS]

Cuz he's largely checked out the last year.

What evidence do you have of this.

I see someone trying and someone who is legit upset after losses and bad plays. Not signs of someone checked out to me.

[Merkin]

How's RichRod been doing recruiting athletes that have legit Div I Power 5 conference offers? How about adjustments to his very predictable offense? Including continue to start the worst passing QB in quite some time. Denker had a very similar noodle arm, but at least he made the right choices and found the open man.

Best thing he has done is give Yates some autonomy on defense, finally, which means less is more.

[PHXCATS]

How's RichRod been doing recruiting athletes that have legit Div I Power 5 conference offers? How about adjustments to his very predictable offense? Including continue to start the worst passing QB in quite some time. Denker had a very similar noodle arm, but at least he made the right choices and found the open man.

Best thing he has done is give Yates some autonomy on defense, finally, which means less is more.

He has not been recruiting well, but with crappy guys they are fighting hard. Not someone who is mailing it in.

Lack of recruiting success may not be a result of effort.

[scumdevils86]

Cuz he's largely checked out the last year.

What evidence do you have of this.

I see someone trying and someone who is legit upset after losses and bad plays. Not signs of someone checked out to me.

go away.

[NYCat]

Is the zone read offense dead? Is a q not enough people ask.

We all know the 3-3-5 was obsolete

[PHXCATS]

Is the zone read offense dead? Is a q not enough people ask.

We all know the 3-3-5 was obsolete

I dont think so, but it is becoming easier to defend and UA does not have the athletes or other skills (QB) at this time to make it work as it needs to be very successful.

[Harvey Specter]

Certain it will come down to W and L's for RR this year, but this is W Parks on how instrumental RR was in his development.
Maybe more focused previously?

https://zonazealots.com/2017/10/04/will ... rodriguez/" target="_blank

I don't doubt RR might have had a positive influence on WP's development (and I am sure he is being gracious)... but one guy in 6 years?

I'll add Scooby - that's 2.

Again, I think maybe RR'S focus may have waned over time. Remember hearing Carey being complimentary of RR'S impact on his success as well as Bondurant, Jake Fischer, Tevis and BJ.

I don't remember ever hearing anything from those guys, but I do not doubt they may have said some nice things. That said, what would anyone expect them to say?

It is very rare (see Mackovic) for former players to shit on a coach on their way out of a program - unless they are transferring, and even then most say the right things in the public domain.

[ramcat]

Here's a bit.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatreport/ ... with-cats/" target="_blank

http://www.tucsonlocalmedia.com/sports/ ... f887a.html" target="_blank

https://www.google.com/amp/s/zonazealot ... tevis/amp/" target="_blank

https://www.google.com/amp/tucson.com/s ... 7.amp.html" target="_blank

[KingG]

Cuz he's largely checked out the last year.

What evidence do you have of this.

I see someone trying and someone who is legit upset after losses and bad plays. Not signs of someone checked out to me.

go away.

You made a statement, were asked to back it up, and this is all you got? Beyond annoying you are.

I don’t believe RRod has checked out, at least not yet. He’s definitely showing frustration on the sidelines, but it’s obvious he wants to win badly, and the guys are still competing. If we only had a serviceable QB on the roster things would be way different.

[ASUHATER!]

Cuz he's largely checked out the last year.

What evidence do you have of this.

I see someone trying and someone who is legit upset after losses and bad plays. Not signs of someone checked out to me.

go away.

You made a statement, were asked to back it up, and this is all you got? Beyond annoying you are.

I don’t believe RRod has checked out, at least not yet. He’s definitely showing frustration on the sidelines, but it’s obvious he wants to win badly, and the guys are still competing. If we only had a serviceable QB on the roster things would be way different.

What evidence do you have of this?

[scumdevils86]

Cuz he's largely checked out the last year.

What evidence do you have of this.

I see someone trying and someone who is legit upset after losses and bad plays. Not signs of someone checked out to me.

go away.

You made a statement, were asked to back it up, and this is all you got? Beyond annoying you are.

I don’t believe RRod has checked out, at least not yet. He’s definitely showing frustration on the sidelines, but it’s obvious he wants to win badly, and the guys are still competing. If we only had a serviceable QB on the roster things would be way different.

You must be one of Machinas socks

[KingG]

Cuz he's largely checked out the last year.

What evidence do you have of this.

I see someone trying and someone who is legit upset after losses and bad plays. Not signs of someone checked out to me.

go away.

You made a statement, were asked to back it up, and this is all you got? Beyond annoying you are.

I don’t believe RRod has checked out, at least not yet. He’s definitely showing frustration on the sidelines, but it’s obvious he wants to win badly, and the guys are still competing. If we only had a serviceable QB on the roster things would be way different.

What evidence do you have of this?

Yeah, it’s called watching the actual games without having a predetermined notion that we suck and it’s all Rich Rods fault. Both losses could have been wins, in fact should have been wins. Defense is competing play after play. If anything, the offense is playing so tight Rich Rod is probably over coaching (which is not exactly checking out in case you need that spelt out for you genius). If Rich Rod is to Blame for anything it’s QB recruiting. Too many big misses and the leftovers have been projects.

[KingG]

Cuz he's largely checked out the last year.

What evidence do you have of this.

I see someone trying and someone who is legit upset after losses and bad plays. Not signs of someone checked out to me.

go away.

You made a statement, were asked to back it up, and this is all you got? Beyond annoying you are.

I don’t believe RRod has checked out, at least not yet. He’s definitely showing frustration on the sidelines, but it’s obvious he wants to win badly, and the guys are still competing. If we only had a serviceable QB on the roster things would be way different.

You must be one of Machinas socks

Yep, you caught me tough guy.

[ASUHATER!]

So no evidence...

[Puerco]

Ooh, tag team by the twins! Let me get my popcorn. You guys are so cute when you do this...

[Chicat]

Is the zone read offense dead? Is a q not enough people ask.

We all know the 3-3-5 was obsolete

I dont think so, but it is becoming easier to defend and UA does not have the athletes or other skills (QB) at this time to make it work as it needs to be very successful.

It's dead. It doesn't take defenses by surprise anymore and it doesn't wear them out. Those were the two macro advantages.

[ChooChooCat]

Certain it will come down to W and L's for RR this year, but this is W Parks on how instrumental RR was in his development.
Maybe more focused previously?

https://zonazealots.com/2017/10/04/will ... rodriguez/" target="_blank

More so than Wins and Losses it'll come down predominantly due to lack of attendance. I don't expect Basketball attendance to suffer this season, but you don't know exactly how the fanbase is going to react to all of this and while it may not impact this season it certainly could impact the next (if a NCAA tourney ban is coming for that year), so Arizona really can't afford to have football be a complete dud in the revenue department and quite frankly if we have a bad year this year and attendance continues to drop you certainly can't retain RR for another year. Heeke and Robbins have a business to run here. Hire a new coach with a new shiny object to sell in the indoor facility and hit the ground running.

[azgreg]

This should be RR after a game.

[BearDown89]

Is the zone read offense dead? Is a q not enough people ask.

We all know the 3-3-5 was obsolete

I dont think so, but it is becoming easier to defend and UA does not have the athletes or other skills (QB) at this time to make it work as it needs to be very successful.

It's dead. It doesn't take defenses by surprise anymore and it doesn't wear them out. Those were the two macro advantages.

Agree. Dead as a base offensive scheme. Only useful now as the occasional offensive play, you even see it a time or two in the NFL.

[chiefzona]

I think you guys are starting to catch on. Congrats.

[ASUHATER!]

Offense trends go in cycles. Time for us to introduce a coach that runs the wishbone and we'll win 10 games a year.

[BibbysTowelDude]

Just because you pout on the sideline, and chew the ass of your place kicker twice a game, doesn't mean you are in the game, ready to go, focused, and care. In fact it makes you look like a chump jackass. Add that to the garbage performance of your team, your garbage strength and conditioning program, your garbage record, your garbage recruiting philosophy, your garbage recruiting classes, and your garbage ability to take a couple years off from your garbage recruiting and you have Rich Rod and Arizona Football.

Only dolts think this ship hasn't sunk.

[BearDown89]

Just because you pout on the sideline, and chew the ass of your place kicker twice a game, doesn't mean you are in the game, ready to go, focused, and care. In fact it makes you look like a chump jackass. Add that to the garbage performance of your team, your garbage strength and conditioning program, your garbage record, your garbage recruiting philosophy, your garbage recruiting classes, and your garbage ability to take a couple years off from your garbage recruiting and you have Rich Rod and Arizona Football.

Only dolts think this ship hasn't sunk.

BTD Ladies and Gentlemen!

[PieceOfMeat]

Just because you pout on the sideline, and chew the ass of your place kicker twice a game, doesn't mean you are in the game, ready to go, focused, and care. In fact it makes you look like a chump jackass. Add that to the garbage performance of your team, your garbage strength and conditioning program, your garbage record, your garbage recruiting philosophy, your garbage recruiting classes, and your garbage ability to take a couple years off from your garbage recruiting and you have Rich Rod and Arizona Football.

Only dolts think this ship hasn't sunk.

Tell us how you really feel

[chiefzona]

Just because you pout on the sideline, and chew the ass of your place kicker twice a game, doesn't mean you are in the game, ready to go, focused, and care. In fact it makes you look like a chump jackass. Add that to the garbage performance of your team, your garbage strength and conditioning program, your garbage record, your garbage recruiting philosophy, your garbage recruiting classes, and your garbage ability to take a couple years off from your garbage recruiting and you have Rich Rod and Arizona Football.

Only dolts think this ship hasn't sunk.

Great post and welcome to my world. Even the local media and pundits know that the end is near.