Arizona Coaching Search

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:14 am

I don't know how to imbed tweets but Feldman saying Hugh Freeze would be Les' OC. Thoughts?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:18 am

btfd16 wrote:I don't know how to imbed tweets but Feldman saying Hugh Freeze would be Les' OC. Thoughts?

HELL FUCKING YEAH! Sign me up for that right now

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:19 am

PHXCATS wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I don't know how to imbed tweets but Feldman saying Hugh Freeze would be Les' OC. Thoughts?
HELL FUCKING YEAH. Sign me up for that right now

I am not going to lie... I would be so in... Not sure we would sign off on that after what happened but I would be very excited if that happened.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:20 am

If they let him pass a background check, I'm in

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:28 am

btfd16 wrote:I don't know how to imbed tweets but Feldman saying Hugh Freeze would be Les' OC. Thoughts?

Not necessarily related to Arizona, but..

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:29 am

Thank you sir.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:31 am

Didn't HF have to leave Ole'Miss for calling an escort service? Not exactly what UA needs right now.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:32 am

RondaeShimmy wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I don't know how to imbed tweets but Feldman saying Hugh Freeze would be Les' OC. Thoughts?
Not necessarily related to Arizona, but..

If that is true, then all the talk about Heeke looking for a clean candidate are bull. Les might be clean, Freeze is the exact opposite. I think that package would be quite interesting, but im not buying it.

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:35 am

UALoco wrote:Didn't HF have to leave Ole'Miss for calling an escort service? Not exactly what UA needs right now.

Yes, I don't see how we could hire him.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:35 am

btfd16 wrote:I don't know how to imbed tweets but Feldman saying Hugh Freeze would be Les' OC. Thoughts?

Freeze knows what he's doing on the field. Off the field, there are NCAA issues and the prostitution thing. It's pretty stark as to what you say about Freeze. On field performance, legit. Off field, it's a bad look.

Edited to add an article about NCAA sanctions for Freeze.

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... -penalties" target="_blank

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:36 am

Recruiting violations on top of hookers? In the environment currently, just can't see that happening. Certainly has some success at Ole Miss though.

https://www.forwhomthecowbelltolls.com/ ... violations" target="_blank

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:37 am

Perfect combo, bad timing.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:39 am

btfd16 wrote:Perfect combo, bad timing.

Take the publicity hit and roll with that incredible combo

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:39 am

RondaeShimmy wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Perfect combo, bad timing.
Take the publicity hit and roll with that incredible combo

Hell I am in. Win games.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:45 am

Arizona has an active FBI investigation going on in regarding to paying players and you guys think there's a chance Heeke signs off on bringing in Freeze? Are you guys fricken stoned? Lol

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:52 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Arizona has an active FBI investigation going on in regarding to paying players and you guys think there's a chance Heeke signs off on bringing in Freeze? Are you guys fricken stoned? Lol

I plead the 5th.

Also, he might be on better behavior than ever.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:01 pm

btfd16 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Arizona has an active FBI investigation going on in regarding to paying players and you guys think there's a chance Heeke signs off on bringing in Freeze? Are you guys fricken stoned? Lol
I plead the 5th.

Also, he might be on better behavior than ever.

Sure he absolutely could be, but the optics would be absolutely awful.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:08 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Arizona has an active FBI investigation going on in regarding to paying players and you guys think there's a chance Heeke signs off on bringing in Freeze? Are you guys fricken stoned? Lol
I plead the 5th.

Also, he might be on better behavior than ever.
Sure he absolutely could be, but the optics would be absolutely awful.

They will likely not be worse than now. Thanks Miller and Byrne and RR and whatever that track coach is named.

Go for the fucking win. He will be on his best behavior and he has paid his price

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:16 pm

Les has to be the guy, I mean Les is talking OCs while there's no other jobs open besides Arizona. Even if Hugh Freeze doesn't come,

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:16 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Arizona has an active FBI investigation going on in regarding to paying players and you guys think there's a chance Heeke signs off on bringing in Freeze? Are you guys fricken stoned? Lol
I plead the 5th.

Also, he might be on better behavior than ever.
Sure he absolutely could be, but the optics would be absolutely awful.
They will likely not be worse than now. Thanks Miller and Byrne and RR and whatever that track coach is named.

Go for the fucking win. He will be on his best behavior and he has paid his price

"Why not, things can't get worse" isn't exactly an inspiring message to lead with. Freeze is a good coach, but that is not an exclusive market.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:20 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Arizona has an active FBI investigation going on in regarding to paying players and you guys think there's a chance Heeke signs off on bringing in Freeze? Are you guys fricken stoned? Lol
I plead the 5th.

Also, he might be on better behavior than ever.
Sure he absolutely could be, but the optics would be absolutely awful.
They will likely not be worse than now. Thanks Miller and Byrne and RR and whatever that track coach is named.

Go for the fucking win. He will be on his best behavior and he has paid his price

of course you have to put Miller at the top of your list.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:28 pm

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:29 pm

Sheesh. Who fucking knows.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:32 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:

Booooooooooooooooo

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:35 pm

You'll hear a lot of back and forth and twisted stuff all here and there. Coaching searches are worse than recruits choosing schools.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:39 pm

Crystal Ball says there is an ever increasing demand for eunuchs in Washington, Hollywood and Tucson.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:48 pm

At this point I think it is Miles, Freeze or not. My excitement will be contingent on the OC hire.

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:48 pm

Chief is correct. Coaching searches are worse than recruits choosing schools. This post kind of overlaps a number of different areas but it has to go somewhere. If even a few of the allegations about RR are true and I tend to think they are, his firing is more than justified. I honestly can't say much about the way Heeke has handled it. Especially if he knew weeks ago he had already made up his mind about it. Why weren't things ready to go. As far as I know the job isn't even posted yet and we can't announce a new coach until the job has been posted for ten days. This is one reason I hate starting over. Its always a mess and unless the last coach left a lot of talent behind and we know this one didn't, the first year is really difficult. We need to know who the new coach will be for a lot of reasons. This board needs to know so we know who to like or hate whatever the case may be. The players need to know and the new recruits need to know. The clock is ticking on this and I have some hopes that some of the recruiting can be salvaged.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:03 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:
Booooooooooooooooo

Why are you stumping for a guy dumb enough to call an escort service on his work phone? Hard pass.

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:09 pm

What is a worse decision: using a work phone subject to FOIA to call escort services, or having one of your affairs stand between your wife and other affair on the sideline?

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:09 pm

FWIW Dodd at CBS says: "Sources have indicated, for now, former Texas A&M Kevin Sumlin may not be a candidate."

To me, this reads like his sources have no idea.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... p-choices/

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:18 pm

DrWildcat wrote:FWIW Dodd at CBS says: "Sources have indicated, for now, former Texas A&M Kevin Sumlin may not be a candidate."

To me, this reads like his sources have no idea.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... p-choices/

(For now) he (may not) be a candidate

#valueadd

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:21 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:
Booooooooooooooooo
Why are you stumping for a guy dumb enough to call an escort service on his work phone? Hard pass.

He paid his price, pun intended. He would be incredible here. With Miles, Freeze and Yates UofA would have the best combo of coordinators and head coach in the conference along with 18 returning starters. HELLO ROSE BOWL!

AZarchery · Post by **AZarchery** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:23 pm

prh wrote:What is a worse decision: using a work phone subject to FOIA to call escort services, or having one of your affairs stand between your wife and other affair on the sideline?

You make it seem like those are our only 2 options.

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:38 pm

AZarchery wrote:
prh wrote:What is a worse decision: using a work phone subject to FOIA to call escort services, or having one of your affairs stand between your wife and other affair on the sideline?

You make it seem like those are our only 2 options.

Just meant as a thought experiment and slight curiosity. One is RR so this isn't about our options

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:57 pm

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:58 pm

Why... Why is this a thing. No to Yates.

AZarchery · Post by **AZarchery** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:04 pm

btfd16 wrote:Why... Why is this a thing. No to Yates.

Why? Everyone around here says recruiting is the biggest concern.....looks like it’s a great start!

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:08 pm

AZarchery wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Why... Why is this a thing. No to Yates.
Why? Everyone around here says recruiting is the biggest concern.....looks like it’s a great start!

Because I think Sumlin could do much better at recruiting, keep Yates and provide an attendance spike which is badly needed.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:14 pm

They finally posted the job today.
https://uacareers.com/postings/25931" target="_blank

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:19 pm

azgreg wrote:They finally posted the job today.
https://uacareers.com/postings/25931" target="_blank

I imagine every coach just laughs this:

Number of Hours Worked per Week 40

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:21 pm

azgreg wrote:They finally posted the job today.
https://uacareers.com/postings/25931" target="_blank

I should put in for that. It's a salary bump, normal 40 hours a week and only requires a bachelors. My JD means I'm almost overqualified.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:29 pm

UALoco wrote:

He MAY pick Arizona?

Yeah, lock in Yates now after that iron clad guarantee...

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:05 pm

btfd16 wrote:
AZarchery wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Why... Why is this a thing. No to Yates.
Why? Everyone around here says recruiting is the biggest concern.....looks like it’s a great start!
Because I think Sumlin could do much better at recruiting, keep Yates and provide an attendance spike which is badly needed.

We might not be able to afford Sumlin or afford to wait till the end of January.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:07 pm

Deserves a hard look. Young, good recruiter, poly pipeline, defensive minded, alumni, might stick around a while longer than the other mercenaries mentioned so far.

AZarchery · Post by **AZarchery** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:09 pm

UALoco wrote:
Deserves a hard look. Young, good recruiter, poly pipeline, defensive minded, alumni, might stick around a while longer than the other mercenaries mentioned so far.

Better than the retreads imo

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:10 pm

btfd16 wrote:Why... Why is this a thing. No to Yates.

Why not Yates? I like how the D is trending. That's all on him.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:18 pm

UALoco wrote:
Deserves a hard look. Young, good recruiter, poly pipeline, defensive minded, alumni, might stick around a while longer than the other mercenaries mentioned so far.

Would rather have him as a DC with play calling abilities and HC in waiting.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:20 pm

UALoco wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Why... Why is this a thing. No to Yates.
Why not Yates? I like how the D is trending. That's all on him.

I am tired of triple digit undersized defenses. Plus, I agree with Chief that we need to spark attendance. Yates doesn't do that.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:33 pm

UALoco wrote:
Deserves a hard look. Young, good recruiter, poly pipeline, defensive minded, alumni, might stick around a while longer than the other mercenaries mentioned so far.

I'd like him a lot better as a recruiting coordinator/Co-D/c. It's just a hard sell if you have other names like Miles (national championship as a HC) out there. I get the appeal of an alum, but generally D-line coaches are not in the running for a P5 HC position, period.

I feel like a lot of this is just impossible without knowing who actually is able to be acquired. Yeah, I'd take him over Butch Jones. There are other names out there that I wouldn't feel the same way about.

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