Arizona Coaching Search

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:59 pm

Officially excited for next year! Is it football season yet?

apenland01 · Post by **apenland01** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:59 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:Lmao all the hand wringing. Classic all time thread.

This thread is one of the best works of fiction I have read in a very long time! Constant drama, suspense, twists and turns, extreme giddiness, extreme sadness, pretty much everything you are looking for in a fiction piece!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:02 pm

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:02 pm

So it’s Kevin Sumlin...everyone happy?

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:03 pm

whatisee wrote:So it’s Kevin Sumlin...everyone happy?

Oooooh Yeaaaa!

Heeke, out of my doghouse!!!

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:04 pm

Guess I'll pay attention to football again.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:05 pm

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:05 pm

CatsbyAZ wrote:
whatisee wrote:So it’s Kevin Sumlin...everyone happy?

Oooooh Yeaaaa!

Heeke, out of my doghouse!!!

Eh. He's still there for me a little bit.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:06 pm

Mazzone as OC and Yates as DC?

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:06 pm

Merkin wrote:

Did he sign that Yates for HC petition.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:07 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:Mazzone as OC and Yates as DC?

Denker as QB coach?

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:11 pm

OSUCat wrote:
TatetheGreat wrote:Mazzone as OC and Yates as DC?
Denker as QB coach?

"Lol I wish" - BJ. Think he will stick as an analyst.

Source: Me texting him

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:15 pm

OSUCat wrote:
TatetheGreat wrote:Mazzone as OC and Yates as DC?
Denker as QB coach?

Yes

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:22 pm

whatisee wrote:So it’s Kevin Sumlin...everyone happy?

I made mention about 50 pages ago that I had heard a name and that I was “pretty pleased”.

After all the twists and turns the past week, I’m fucking ecstatic.

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:27 pm

This had better not be more bullshit. I am done.

Lando05 · Post by **Lando05** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:33 pm

catgrad97 wrote:And from the department of deflection, Scheer style:

Yeah, dude, you single-handedly saved Arizona basketball and that all makes up for basically being a show runner in this latest sh*tshow. Should we applaud or boo and hiss now?

Sorry, but for all the justified railing against the "cult of personality" and how it has absolutely turned functional American democratic politics to sh*t, this giant eye-roll of a coaching search has taught me one thing: the cult is getting just as bad in sports as well.

Instead, the fallout on Twitter is nothing but doubling down on denial and taking gigantic amounts of credit for things you really weren't that responsible for.

Own your mistakes. That's the bottom line. In ANY profession.

Exactly take ownership in any Profession

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:34 pm

BBQ wildcat wrote:
SCCats wrote:
BBQ wildcat wrote:
SCCats wrote:Shit since Tomey is so damn involved anyways, hire him at $30k a month to CEO this thing and gladhandle boosters. Spend the money you're saving on HC to bring in two elite coordinators at $1.5M each with each one of those coordinators and their position coaches being responsible for recruiting their side of the ball.
Just stop with this tired old CEO bullshit. Tomey would be a poor man's Herm Edwards. Just hire a coach who will COACH
You understand the coordinators COACH, right?

And he would be a poor mans Herm, but he'd be paid that way too so we can get ELITE COACHES at the coordinator spots.

If we do it YOUR WAY, we end up with Navy's coach (until he turns us down) and then end up with Rocky Long. Fuck. that. route.
Of COURSE I know that coordinators and position coaches coach. But you keep wanting a head COACH who doesn't coach at all, Which, to me, is stupid. And I have posted in this thread that I did NOT want to see Navy's coach here. I want to see a head coach who will actually COACH, though.

WTF!!! How much coaching would a coaching coach coach if a coaching coach would and could coach?

Lando05 · Post by **Lando05** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:38 pm

I will also be buying tickets next season. I live in Chandler and will be going south a lot

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:39 pm

I saw tomey in town in November

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:39 pm

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:42 pm

chiefzona wrote:
Merkin wrote:These "leaks" were probably well planned to get donors to pony up to fund Sumlin's assistants.
Yes

Oh come on. I don't think Heeke is an idiot by any standards but I don't think he's smart enough to pull off that ploy either. I think the entire process of firing to coach search was bush league.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:44 pm

Hearing from Morales on FB that Cecil will not be retained and Hunley's not in Sumlin's plans either. Can anyone confirm this?

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:45 pm

NYCat wrote:

My lord this day just keeps getting better.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:46 pm

I, unfortunately, think Sumlin is a great fit for you guys. Mazzone also is a good fit for the PAC-12

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:48 pm

Sumlin has his own thread, I would love to lock this one and burn it to hell.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:52 pm

Chicat wrote:
whatisee wrote:So it’s Kevin Sumlin...everyone happy?
I made mention about 50 pages ago that I had heard a name and that I was “pretty pleased”.

After all the twists and turns the past week, I’m fucking ecstatic.

Me too! Do you know if we get extra scholarships for the kids transferring out? I wonder if we keep Joiner now or go after someone else?

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:52 pm

Lock it up!

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:53 pm

Lando05 wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:And from the department of deflection, Scheer style:

Yeah, dude, you single-handedly saved Arizona basketball and that all makes up for basically being a show runner in this latest sh*tshow. Should we applaud or boo and hiss now?

Sorry, but for all the justified railing against the "cult of personality" and how it has absolutely turned functional American democratic politics to sh*t, this giant eye-roll of a coaching search has taught me one thing: the cult is getting just as bad in sports as well.

Instead, the fallout on Twitter is nothing but doubling down on denial and taking gigantic amounts of credit for things you really weren't that responsible for.

Own your mistakes. That's the bottom line. In ANY profession.
Exactly take ownership in any Profession

Get off it guys. He's joking because some poster no one has ever heard of started a thread last night saying it was Scheer's fault that Ken N was turning us down.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:57 pm

chiefzona wrote:Biggest hire in Arizona history. Huge!!!!!!! It elevates the program. I’m buying tickets.

Holy shit. This *is* big.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:58 pm

Alieberman wrote:Sumlin has his own thread, I would love to lock this one and burn it to hell.

You kidding? All the insanity in this thread simply proves that we're FANS.

Now that we've got a stud coach at the end, this can die naturally, and serve as a quirky reminder of our collective passion in future!

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:59 pm

Sharpie

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:01 pm

Let's wait to lock it until Sumlin is coaching spring practice

Lando05 · Post by **Lando05** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:18 pm

UofAlum05 wrote:
Lando05 wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:And from the department of deflection, Scheer style:

Yeah, dude, you single-handedly saved Arizona basketball and that all makes up for basically being a show runner in this latest sh*tshow. Should we applaud or boo and hiss now?

Sorry, but for all the justified railing against the "cult of personality" and how it has absolutely turned functional American democratic politics to sh*t, this giant eye-roll of a coaching search has taught me one thing: the cult is getting just as bad in sports as well.

Instead, the fallout on Twitter is nothing but doubling down on denial and taking gigantic amounts of credit for things you really weren't that responsible for.

Own your mistakes. That's the bottom line. In ANY profession.
Exactly take ownership in any Profession
Get off it guys. He's joking because some poster no one has ever heard of started a thread last night saying it was Scheer's fault that Ken N was turning us down.

I hadn't read the other thread yet, lost my phone last night and just got caught up. I was wrong. I'll eat crow on my words on this.

3rdand25 · Post by **3rdand25** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:35 pm

This is all good news. Best wishes to Ken N, and welcome to the new Coach.

A well executed search, with a great outcome, no?

Thanks Heeke!

PS if I was bb coach I would be nervous

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:52 pm

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:56 pm

RR at Bama would be...surprising.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:00 pm

catgrad97 wrote:And from the department of deflection, Scheer style:

Yeah, dude, you single-handedly saved Arizona basketball and that all makes up for basically being a show runner in this latest sh*tshow. Should we applaud or boo and hiss now?

Sorry, but for all the justified railing against the "cult of personality" and how it has absolutely turned functional American democratic politics to sh*t, this giant eye-roll of a coaching search has taught me one thing: the cult is getting just as bad in sports as well.

Instead, the fallout on Twitter is nothing but doubling down on denial and taking gigantic amounts of credit for things you really weren't that responsible for.

Own your mistakes. That's the bottom line. In ANY profession.

Did you also post this on the 24/7 message boards where he would see this?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:59 pm

I'm all in again! Bear Down!

FlyonWall · Post by **FlyonWall** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:22 pm

3rdand25 wrote:This is all good news. Best wishes to Ken N, and welcome to the new Coach.

A well executed search, with a great outcome, no?

Thanks Heeke!

PS if I was bb coach I would be nervous

He probably used this to negotiate a nice raise and contract extension with Navy.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:04 pm

Sorry if this has been answered already but did we actually offer Ken N? Or was that a smokescreen? I have a hard time believing that Sumlin wasn’t our first option.

Thanks!

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:43 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Sorry if this has been answered already but did we actually offer Ken N? Or was that a smokescreen? I have a hard time believing that Sumlin wasn’t our first option.

Thanks!

I received the call to "just breathe, you're going to be happy" shortly after the Ken N. offer news broke. Because of that, I don't think it was a physical offer.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:00 pm

btfd16 wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Sorry if this has been answered already but did we actually offer Ken N? Or was that a smokescreen? I have a hard time believing that Sumlin wasn’t our first option.

Thanks!
I received the call to "just breathe, you're going to be happy" shortly after the Ken N. offer news broke. Because of that, I don't think it was a physical offer.

Thanks btfd16. Man, I wish I had known this....was seriously depressed the last few days....always thought Sumlin was too good to be true but damn if the AD, Prez, and Boosters didn’t step up,and knock it out of the park with this hire....wow, just wow!!!!!!

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:06 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Sorry if this has been answered already but did we actually offer Ken N? Or was that a smokescreen? I have a hard time believing that Sumlin wasn’t our first option.

Thanks!
I received the call to "just breathe, you're going to be happy" shortly after the Ken N. offer news broke. Because of that, I don't think it was a physical offer.
Thanks btfd16. Man, I wish I had known this....was seriously depressed the last few days....always thought Sumlin was too good to be true but damn if the AD, Prez, and Boosters didn’t step up,and knock it out of the park with this hire....wow, just wow!!!!!!

I knew this and it still didn't have me freaking out any less! Hahaha there's always the possibility the source is wrong. I trusted this particular source because he is close friends with Sumlin's agent.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:45 pm

Lev just said he was "stunned" that sumlin was hired.
On 1490.

He was sure Ken was getting job

Not knocking Lev, just find it interesting

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:43 pm

Postmaster wrote:Lev just said he was "stunned" that sumlin was hired.
On 1490.

He was sure Ken was getting job

Not knocking Lev, just find it interesting

I whole heartedly believe the media got played. Especially after having a deeper conversation with people close to the process. It was never anyone but Sumlin. Every other name was to get booster support.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:23 pm

btfd16 wrote:
Postmaster wrote:Lev just said he was "stunned" that sumlin was hired.
On 1490.

He was sure Ken was getting job

Not knocking Lev, just find it interesting
I whole heartedly believe the media got played. Especially after having a deeper conversation with people close to the process. It was never anyone but Sumlin. Every other name was to get booster support.

I agree. Furthermore, I believe Sumlin was contacted and expressed interest long before RR was fired. The whole episode was by design and was well executed.

TheGreatCatsby · Post by **TheGreatCatsby** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:32 pm

In addition to above, I wonder how much the fact that Sumlin was getting $10M with no offset still form A&M in buyout money, and maybe we tried offering a few mill off per year because of it. Then the assistant pay and staff, lots to cover and agree on. Glad Heeke got it done in a relatively good pace. Using Coach N as leverage, tactical, but this has been a wild ride and not sure we'll ever fully know. We'll probably know more soon once we see the contract amounts.

Conflicting reports over whether we had actually offered Coach N or not. And think it was right that coach stayed at the Academy anyway, that's a tough job and he's doing a good job for the military.

azdoubledown · Post by **azdoubledown** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:32 pm

Love love love this hire!! Great Job Heeke on this one

- Excited about the recruiting track record in Texas and AZ
- Excited about Yates and Mazzone (?) on the staff.
- Pretty cool also that Arizona hired its first African American head coach on MLK weekend.
- Maybe the best part is how all the talking heads compare the UA/asu hires and they all heap praise on us and just trash and rag on the Edwards hire endlessly. This hire delivers!

AWESOME!! BTFD CKS!

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:36 am

Chicat wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:And from the department of deflection, Scheer style:

Yeah, dude, you single-handedly saved Arizona basketball and that all makes up for basically being a show runner in this latest sh*tshow. Should we applaud or boo and hiss now?

Sorry, but for all the justified railing against the "cult of personality" and how it has absolutely turned functional American democratic politics to sh*t, this giant eye-roll of a coaching search has taught me one thing: the cult is getting just as bad in sports as well.

Instead, the fallout on Twitter is nothing but doubling down on denial and taking gigantic amounts of credit for things you really weren't that responsible for.

Own your mistakes. That's the bottom line. In ANY profession.
Did you also post this on the 24/7 message boards where he would see this?

Are you kidding, I never post on those boards. Haven't since the changeover from TOS. They're worthless.

My last post in this thread. Time to let it die and move on.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:12 pm

I heard they’re even posting about me on that 247 board.

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