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Byrne and RR have already spoken. If other players were involved we would probably know by now.
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kind of surprised it wasn't worse. just not starting isn't much to overcome.
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Rich Rod always says to be smart after a win and obviously some of the players did not listen. I think Griffey will take advantage of this opportunity.
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No one is indispensable under RichRod. He scuttled a Heisman candidacy because of off-field issues. But at the same time, he does believe in second chances if things warrant it. Grant is going to have a long road ahead and he's going to have to prove that he's paid his dues if he wants to keep playing. He's not done yet but RichRod is going to make him earn his way back.
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CalStateTempe wrote:Pigs are pigs
Are you fucking serious?
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IMO he should be left in Tucson but hey, at least we'll still have Bug Wri...errr Davonte Neal to fill in. :roll:

Seriously though, it's time for Caleb to come out of his disappearing act and for Austin Hill to have a monster game like vs. USC 2012.
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Good For You wrote:IMO he should be left in Tucson but hey, at least we'll still have Bug Wri...errr Davonte Neal to fill in. :roll:

Seriously though, it's time for Caleb to come out of his disappearing act and for Austin Hill to have a monster game like vs. USC 2012.
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CalStateTempe wrote:Pigs are pigs
what? So you're cool with a guy driving around under the influence, underage, without a license?
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Yeah Jones looks hurt but is a baller and Neal isnt what I thought he was. Did have a good block. Maybe Tre will go off.
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I interpret Grant not starting to mean he will miss the first quarter. We need both our big guys as well as our small, quick guys in this game. Grant, Johnson and Neal are all that is left, now that Phillips is injured. Grant is by far the best of the group at this point. My guess is he will still be a big part of the game on Friday.

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So, stepping away from the Samajie discussion...

Oregon has their tackles back but compared to last time we played them, they will be down grasu and Pharaoh Brown and also sounds like Lowe and Tyner (though they haven't really missed Tyner).

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.s ... _big-photo

Of course, after we beat them, I'm sure we will find out Mariota was playing with two broken legs.
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Line opens with Oregon -14.
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And on the PAC 12 channel Alioti says that Oregon will game plan and surely score more points then they did the last 2 games.

Not surprising but the way he said it made it sound flukesh on our part
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azgreg wrote:Line opens with Oregon -14.
Huge line wow
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
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Sagarin has it at about 10.5 on a neutral field.
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I thought it would be 17. I am not sure at 14 how much action goes on AZ, especially early in the week. Oregon is typically a covering favorite of bettors

Already moved to 13.5
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azcat49 wrote:I thought it would be 17. I am not sure at 14 how much action goes on AZ, especially early in the week
It did drop to -13.5 pertty quick.
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14 points is silly. If AZ wins, sharps and Vegas win.
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CalStateTempe wrote:Pigs are pigs
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If nothing else, the line should keep the Cats from being overconfident! :lol:

We stack up better against Oregon than any team in the Pac, because no one defends their spread attack like Casteel. And no one knows how to attack their defense like RR. That win at Autzen was no fluke. Here's hoping Oregon believes it was.

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what was the line in the first game?
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PieceOfMeat wrote:what was the line in the first game?

dc4azcats wrote:Arizona v Oregon line opens at Cats +25.5 then VI sets it at +22.5 and its currently at +24 and or +23. That's a lot of points for a team that can score a lot of points.
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I'm sure when we win it'll just be another fluke because of whoever is hurt for Oregon.

Hopefully the committee actually pays attention to the game.
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UAEebs86 wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:what was the line in the first game?

dc4azcats wrote:Arizona v Oregon line opens at Cats +25.5 then VI sets it at +22.5 and its currently at +24 and or +23. That's a lot of points for a team that can score a lot of points.

Hmmm interesting.
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I made an idiotic comment last night and did not know the seriousness of his infractions.

Stupid selfish move on SG's part.

Moving on, I wonder if oregon coach will continue the disrespect by continuing to go for It on 4th down this game, since you know, arizona is a fluke team.
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Does anyone know if we make any extra dough for playing in this game? Curious as to how the proceeds are split.
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Anyone going to the game on Friday? Debating on whether to make the drive from Vegas wait until the bowl game is announced.
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If there was ever a game that Oregon wants to win its this one. These guys have been embarrassed by us two games in a row and I know they will try every flee-flicker, red zone scheme and 4th and short play in the book.

I think Mariota will try to exploit our secondary deep all game. He's probably dialed in to that already. ASSU gave them a blue print for success with our well known weak deep coverage skills on full display last game.

We will have to play our best game of the year to win this one.

No one and I mean on one is going to give us an ounce of respect. All of the talking points and center of attention will be on the Ducks. Interestingly that may be a good thing for us. Circle the wagon or us against the world mentality.

Oregon is going to be super motivated; I hope we can match their intensity.
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I know Vegas puts lines up for money purposes (getting roughly equal bets on both sides of the line) and not for true "this team will win" picking purposes....but...I wonder if Vegas has ever picked a team as a double digit favorite 3 times in a row (against the same team) and whiffed on them even winning the game?

Cause that's what will have happened if we win vs. Oregon again. 3rd straight victory as double digit dogs to them.\

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ok, i'm sure it's happened, too many games picked every year, over the course of years, for it to not have happened at some point...but I wonder how rare it would be/is.
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Good reminder of how this team has had to Bear Down to get to the point from SB Nation:
Two weeks ago, Arizona had a two percent chance of winning the South. But the Wildcats pulled off two wins over Utah (win probability two weeks ago: 35 percent) and Arizona State (39 percent), and combined with Stanford's unlikely win over UCLA (23 percent two weeks ago), that did the deed. And now Arizona's one win (over a team it has already beaten!) from the Pac-12 title.
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Really tough to beat a good team twice in the same year. Both teams have improved greatly since the first meeting. Gonna be a good game and I'm very excited.
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Kind of awesome that we are a part of the first Pac12 Championship Game to feature two teams ranked in the top 10 in the AP poll.
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Chicat wrote:Kind of awesome that we are a part of the first Pac12 Championship Game to feature two teams ranked in the top 10 in the AP poll.
yep. AND, making the championship game before U$C!


sorry to bring up the SG situation, but a couple of quick thoughts:
1. TJ is legit. RR says he's the fastest guy on the team and a player that the staff needs to get the ball to more anyway

2. really proud of the wildcat fans, regardless of RR/GB's decision, for having the ethical fortitude to call for strict & fair sanctions on SG; and not stooping to fsu-level homerdom
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azgreg wrote:

I wonder if Brando is going to call the UA team rushing onto the field "Arizona State" again?
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Merkin wrote:
azgreg wrote:

I wonder if Brando is going to call the UA team rushing onto the field "Arizona State" again?

Happens all the time with every team.

David Shaw was on PAC-12 networks right before the replay of UA vs ASU last night and they said USC Coach Steve Sarkisian on the graphic below
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Not really thrilled with the announcers...but...since it IS the pac12 champ game, I guess I'll just suffer through it :lol:
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Machina wrote:Happens all the time with every team.
You just described a situation where no team is called by the correct name ever.
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dirtbags wrote:TJ is legit. RR says he's the fastest guy on the team and a player that the staff needs to get the ball to more anyway
I'm guessing the only thing that's kept TJ from getting more playing time is just the amount of talent above him and that he's a true freshman. The coaches really like him and he's one of those "one step away from breaking a TD run" kind of guys any time he touches the ball. Next year Hill and Richards are done so that's more touches he'd be getting.
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dirtbags wrote:TJ is legit. RR says he's the fastest guy on the team and a player that the staff needs to get the ball to more anyway
I'm guessing the only thing that's kept TJ from getting more playing time is just the amount of talent above him and that he's a true freshman. The coaches really like him and he's one of those "one step away from breaking a TD run" kind of guys any time he touches the ball. Next year Hill and Richards are done so that's more touches he'd be getting.
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Hmm. Thought he was a senior. Ah well.
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How much is it a factor that Oregon has already played in Levis Stadium this year?
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On the other hand, I'm liking the seat color.

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azgreg wrote:How much is it a factor that Oregon has already played in Levis Stadium this year?
None IMO.
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azgreg wrote:How much is it a factor that Oregon has already played in Levis Stadium this year?
Most of these guys had not played in Pullman or the Alamodome. The underclassmen hadnt played at Rice-Eccles or Autzen. It doesn't give Oregon an advantage having played there already.
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azgreg wrote:How much is it a factor that Oregon has already played in Levis Stadium this year?
I'm betting they start walking towards the visitors locker room when they get off the bus.
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azgreg wrote:
Damn. Really wanted Gus Johnson.
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