Oregon State at Arizona discussion thread

[Merkin]

Thought I would move this here.

One good thing about DST ending in November is these games will be on an hour earlier out here in Cali.

[azcat49]

You think OSU will spend any time game planning for JDL LOL. If Fisch says it’s a game time decision then that will be the worst bluff ever

[wyo-cat]

One of my son’s best buddies is Jim Michalczik’s kid.

He and his family are all great people. I’m glad they are doing well in Corvallis, but Go Cats in this game!

[Robert A Booey]

Will be interesting to see what the betting line looks like on this one.

[PHXCATS]

Guess is Oregon State will be a slight favorite

As in 1.5ish

[TheCatInTheHat]

Here it is. They're coming off a bye, just like us. Obviously their wins over Utah and UCLA are particularly note-worthy. I didn't realize Uiagalelei was such a moose at 6-4 250 (with 5 rushing TDs.) Another physical note is that their two OLBs are both big and tall and obviously can function as DEs, with 4 sacks between them.

at San Jose State W, 42-17
UC Davis W, 55-7
San Diego State W, 26-9
at Washington State L, 35-38
Utah W, 21-7
at California W, 52-40
UCLA W, 36-24

OFFENSE:
QB 5 DJ Uiagalelei 6-4 250 JR 60.23 % 15/4 TD/INT 224.71 YPG RUSHING: 5 TD/17.71 YPG
RB 6 Damien Martinez 6-0 230 SO 3 TD 96.57 YPG
WR 7 Silas Bolden 5-8 160 JR 4 TD 65.14 YPG
WR 2 Anthony Gould 5-8 170 RS-JR 2 TD 73.83 YPG
WR 13 Jesiah Irish 5-11 175 RS-SR 1 TD 25.67 YPG
TE 88 Jack Velling 6-4 240 SO 7 TD 31.86 YPG
LT 67 Joshua Gray 6-4 305 RS-JR
LG 58 Heneli Bloomfield 6-4 310 RS-SR
C 70 Jake Levengood 6-4 295 RS-SR
RG 66 Grant Starck 6-4 300 JR
RT 75 Taliese Fuaga 6-6 335 JR

BENCH:
RB 1 Deshaun Fenwick 6-1 220 RS-SR 4 TD 54.57 YPG
RB 7 Silas Bolden 5-8 160 JR 1 TD 12.43 YPG
WR 18 Jeremiah Noga 6-2 185 RS-SO 7 7 108 15.43 1 TD 31 15.43 YPG
WR 8 Rweha Munyagi 6-2 190 RS-SR 7 4 93 23.25 1 TD 35 13.29 YPG
RG 61 Tanner Miller 6-1 285 RS-JR

DEFENSE:
DT 8 Sione Lolohea 6-3 265 JR 30.0 T 1.5 S
DT 95 Joe Golden 6-5 290 RS-SR 24.0 T 2.5 S
OLB 6 John McCartan 6-5 260 RS-SR 25.0 T 3.0 S
ILB 5 Easton Mascarenas-Arnold 5-11 230 JR 64.0 T 1.0 S 2 INT
ILB 2 Calvin Hart 6-0 225 RS-SR 35.0 T 2.0 S
OLB 82 Cory Stover 6-6 250 RS-JR 19.0 T 1.0 S
CB 4 Jaden Robinson 6-0 190 RS-SR 20.0 T 0.5 S
DB 0 Akili Arnoldi 5-11 200 RS-JR 41.0 T 0.5 S 2 INT
S 28 Kitan Oladapo 6-1 215 RS-SR 40.0 T 1.0 S
S 1 Ryan Cooper 6-0 185 SR 22.0 T 0.5 S 1 INT
CB 25 Tyrice Ivy 6-3 200 JR 16.0 T

BENCH
S 23 Jermod McCoy 6-0 180 FR 17.0 T 1 INT
OLB 10 Andrew Chatfield 6-2 255 RS-SR 16.0 T 3.0 S 1 INT
DT 99 Isaac Hodgins 6-0 270 RS-SR 14.0 T 3.0 S
DT 52 James Rawls 6-2 285 RS-SR 14.0 T 2.5 S

KICKING:
P 37 Josh Green 6-1 220 RS-SR 40.58 YPP
K/KO 36 Atticus Sappington 5-10 190 RS-SO 8-9 FG LONG: 48 28/47 TB/KO 1 OB
PR 7 Silas Bolden 5-8 160 JR 42.50 YPR 1 TD LONG: 65
PR 2 Anthony Gould 5-8 170 RS-JR 12.67 YPR LONG: 23
KR 7 Silas Bolden 5-8 160 JR 30.00 YPR LONG: 59
KR 0 Akili Arnold 5-11 200 RS-JR 17.50 YPR LONG: 31

[azcat49]

Draft kings has OSU as a 5 point favorite at the open.

[Merkin]

OFFENSE:
QB 5 DJ Uiagalelei 6-4 250 JR 60.23 % 15/4 TD/INT 224.71 YPG RUSHING: 5 TD/17.71 YPG

I really hate how the NCAA deducts sack yardage from the QB's rushing stats. I have no idea how good a runner he is although the 5 TDs rushing is impressive.

The NFL model is better where sacks go against team stats, not individual stats.

[azgreg]

The Beavers open up -4.

[Carcassdragger]

Thinking about coming to Tucson for this one.

[Abrahamarvel]

265 lbs DT, that's Rich Rod OKG kind of line

[azcat49]

Line currently at -3.5 in the Beavs favor. How low can it go?

[Carcassdragger]

265 lbs DT, that's Rich Rod OKG kind of line

This comment confuses me. RR OKGs were small and fast.

[dmjcat]

265 lbs DT, that's Rich Rod OKG kind of line

Your memory is failing. 265 lbs would have been a heavy upgrade to RRods OKG's

From the AZ Daily Star:

No. 14: Parker Zellers, defensive lineman
Michael Lev Jul 26, 2017

NO. 14: DL PARKER ZELLERS

Ht/Wt/Yr: 6-1, 247, senior

Comment: Arizona has spent considerable resources trying to find needed upgrades along the defensive line. Yet one of the players the UA has sought to replace happens to be one of its most irreplaceable players.

At 6-1, 247, Zellers has no business playing nose tackle in the Pac-12, at least not in 2017. But Zellers worked his way from walk-on to starter. Defensive line coach Vince Amey runs a meritocracy, and Zellers earned his spot by outplaying bigger, more sought-after players (which would be just about everybody else).

Which isn’t to say Zellers is an All-Pac-12 performer. He had 12 tackles in nine games last season. Three of those were sacks. That tied for the team lead. His two forced fumbles gave him solo top honors in that category.

[azgreg]

[Merkin]

Obviously Jedd knows more about football than all of combined on the UA sports forums, but that has to be the worst bluff ever.

[TheCatInTheHat]

No news flash, but Oregon State's a damned good football team. They're coming off a bye, just like we are, and that may be more advantageous to a team if the game after the bye is on the road. We won at WSU by a big margin, but a number of people think WSU has some schematic problems, and now that they've been exposed, they may struggle the rest of the way. And our fans seem focused on Homecoming with UCLA and Gronk in two weeks. OSU has no glitz; that's why they've been "left behind" in the Pac-2/MWC. But, they're ranked Number 11, and we don't even have votes, which means we're not even top 35. Seems like a dangerous situation, and we've got some fans who are mildly interested in football (and only when we win big) waiting to pounce, because they've somehow decided we "should" win this game.* We're the underdog. We may win, but this figures to be a very tough game.

* Not necessarily on this board, but you know they're out there in the world. (Sigh.)

[AzCatFan2]

By the end of last year, Oregon State was perhaps the most dangerous team in the PAC. Great D, very good running game, a little questionable at QB. They went out and got DJ U. from Clemson at QB, and there's a good reason they are ranked #11. They are solid from top to bottom this year.

We need to avoid a let down coming off the WSU beat down. We've won nothing yet this year, and just because we went out and beat WSU, doesn't mean we can just show up and beat anyone. Especially a team as good as the Beavers. Let's hope having a letdown after a big game win is a lesson we don't have to learn the hard way.

[azcat49]

Can’t wait and it’s a big game. Win out and have USC lose twice (likely) then we would finish third and if both UDub and Oregon get playoff berths then we could get the best bowl tie in we have available

[Merkin]

Oregon State football expert previews the Arizona game, makes a score prediction

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/football/ ... z7hE5TWeL8

[Carcassdragger]

By the end of last year, Oregon State was perhaps the most dangerous team in the PAC. Great D, very good running game, a little questionable at QB. They went out and got DJ U. from Clemson at QB, and there's a good reason they are ranked #11. They are solid from top to bottom this year.

We need to avoid a let down coming off the WSU beat down. We've won nothing yet this year, and just because we went out and beat WSU, doesn't mean we can just show up and beat anyone. Especially a team as good as the Beavers. Let's hope having a letdown after a big game win is a lesson we don't have to learn the hard way.

I have the same thoughts re a letdown. What gives me perhaps a bit more faith is that in three years, I dont remember a Jedd Fisch team ever not giving pretty much a maximal effort. His guys just don't quit. I think we'll win but we can certainly lose.

I'm traveling some distance to be there and can't wait.

Huge game. I'm hoping that finally, it's our time.

[Siempre Verde]

I’ll be watching (if it’s Fifita) amongst Beaver fans up here cheering and hoping for victory, but being realistic. ntOSU is a very capable football team and only a fool would assume we curbstomp them like Wazzu. In fact, I believe a W over the Beavers would be far more impressive than one against the Bruins, given each teams QB. I’m always hoping for that game where UofA football turns the corner, but left at best with the feeling of a hollow, moral victory. Maybe, just maybe, this time Lucy doesn’t pull away the football at the last second! Go Cats!!

[azgreg]

[RichardCranium]

What color is Australia supposed to wear?

[Siempre Verde]

Oy. Guaranteed loss…thanks, Heeke. These (whatever)-outs seldom end well and they tend to look like shyte.

[Merkin]

Oy. Guaranteed loss…thanks, Heeke. These (whatever)-outs seldom end well and they tend to look like shyte.

I like to live like: "act like you've been there".

Always hated them when Byrne pushed them so much. I don't even own a white shirt. If they want everyone to wear the correct color, put the right shirt on the back of their seat before the game starts.

And like you said, I would like to see the UA's record during the -outs.

[cerec_cat]

I have to go to a fucking Halloween party Saturday night. Won’t be able to watch

[Chicat]

I have to go to a fucking Halloween party Saturday night. Won’t be able to watch

If your costume is “teenager addicted to iPhone”, you can easily attend the party and watch the game at the same time. Extra points every time you are super annoyed when someone wants your attention.

[TheCat]

Guys we are way out over our skis because of our outstanding victory over WSU. We have barely won double digit victories in 4 years. We will be playing a team motivated to win the PAC because they have no conference to go to. Play tough, no one get hurt and hope to keep the folks on the East coast past their bedtime. I don't see us winning this game but that is why they play them.

[cerec_cat]

I have to go to a fucking Halloween party Saturday night. Won’t be able to watch

If your costume is “teenager addicted to iPhone”, you can easily attend the party and watch the game at the same time. Extra points every time you are super annoyed when someone wants your attention.

The wife will love that

[Chicat]

I have to go to a fucking Halloween party Saturday night. Won’t be able to watch

If your costume is “teenager addicted to iPhone”, you can easily attend the party and watch the game at the same time. Extra points every time you are super annoyed when someone wants your attention.

The wife will love that

“Sweetie, you always tell me that you wish I would be more involved and committed when we do stuff like this. This IS my costume.”

[Chicat]

Guys we are way out over our skis

I feel like we are appropriately over our skis. A couple good wins. A couple missed opportunities. Feels like a team that knows they can play with anyone if they all just do their jobs and make as few mental errors as possible.

[azcat49]

Guys we are way out over our skis because of our outstanding victory over WSU. We have barely won double digit victories in 4 years. We will be playing a team motivated to win the PAC because they have no conference to go to. Play tough, no one get hurt and hope to keep the folks on the East coast past their bedtime. I don't see us winning this game but that is why they play them.

So in your mind the experts who pick the spread have grossly overrated the cats?

Sure OSU will be motivated but so will we. We are on that journey for respect and relevance not to mention for a bowl bid.

This game is going to be just what the line indicates, a nut cutter.

[azgreg]

[wyo-cat]

I snowboard, so not over my skis.

This is a perfect time and test for the Cats. My only issue is the dumbass Stripe Out. Our section is red, and that’s what I wear to games anyway, so no worries.

[Merkin]

At least it will be t-shirt weather. 75 at 7pm, 72 at 8pm. 66 at 11pm.

[Carcassdragger]

Huge game. A win here would mean so much.

[KillerKlown]

Guys we are way out over our skis.

This has been said about MissSt, Wash., USC, and WSU. I think it's time we give the Wildcats the benefit of the doubt. They've earned it on the field.

[EastCoastCat]

Guys we are way out over our skis because of our outstanding victory over WSU. We have barely won double digit victories in 4 years. We will be playing a team motivated to win the PAC because they have no conference to go to. Play tough, no one get hurt and hope to keep the folks on the East coast past their bedtime. I don't see us winning this game but that is why they play them.

Since we haven’t even been invited to the ski resort for quite a while, I’m okay with the unbridled enthusiasm.

[TheCat]

Guys we are way out over our skis.

This has been said about MissSt, Wash., USC, and WSU. I think it's time we give the Wildcats the benefit of the doubt. They've earned it on the field.

3 of the 4 of those we lost. We are playing a team that is better than 3 of those teams.

[pc in NM]

Guys we are way out over our skis.

This has been said about MissSt, Wash., USC, and WSU. I think it's time we give the Wildcats the benefit of the doubt. They've earned it on the field.

3 of the 4 of those we lost. We are playing a team that is better than 3 of those teams.

And, it’s indisputably true that the Beavers are playing an Arizona team that’s been vastly better in its last three games than it was in its first four.

[cerec_cat]

This guy was a badass

[TheCatInTheHat]

I kind of look at this season as a celebration, and here's why. In fairly rapid succession, we had the transition from Dr. Hart to Dr. Robbins, from Byrne to Heeke, from RichRod (with the secretary thing) to Sumlin (with the booze thing), COVID, Scott to Kliavkoff, the demise of the Pac-12, and Arizona to the Big XII. That's not a lot of stability for anybody to feel any level of assurance. Oh, and we lost a ton of games. I never thought I could feel worse than the Mackovic years and the aftermath. So, just like Stoops eventually got us to the Vegas Bowl, and that was a big party, Fisch seems like he's on a similar (actually much faster) trajectory. It would be a shame if he falls one game short of the stated goal of a bowl game, but everything's right in front of the team, nothing worthwhile is ever easy, and it just sort of feels like it may be in the cards. Doesn't necessarily mean we'll win tomorrow, but that would take a lot of pressure off.

[Merkin]

And, it’s indisputably true that the Beavers are playing an Arizona team that’s been vastly better in its last three games than it was in its first four.

[Carcassdragger]

This team didn't know how good they were earlier this season. Now they know if they execute, play physical, and don't miss tackles, they are very good.

Screw kicking the can down the road. We're winning this game because we can. It's our time now.

[Postmaster]

Oy. Guaranteed loss…thanks, Heeke. These (whatever)-outs seldom end well and they tend to look like shyte.

I like to live like: "act like you've been there".

Always hated them when Byrne pushed them so much. I don't even own a white shirt. If they want everyone to wear the correct color, put the right shirt on the back of their seat before the game starts.

And like you said, I would like to see the UA's record during the -outs.

I always thought these were a ploy to sell shirts.

[Captain Obvious]

I'm anticipating a huge letdown tonight. Granted most U of A football games are a letdown but coming off a rare road victory my expectations are understandably low. This game is a matchup nightmare for Arizona. The defense is going to get a hefty dose of smash mouth football and simply don't have he personnel to stop it. Couple that with OSU's strength on the defensive line and it's going to be a long night. This one is gonna be ugly my friends. The stadium will be 3/4 empty by the middle of the 3rd quarter. Seemingly all enthusiasm from the WSU win already seems like a distant memory. It was likely our last win of the season.

[UAEebs86]

Go away

[Chicat]

I'm anticipating a huge letdown tonight. … This one is gonna be ugly my friends.

You are like really really good at this. Take the WSU game for example:

It won't matter who the quarterback is. This game has disaster written all over it. WSU is coming off a loss and Arizona is coming off two losses where they found even more new ways to lose. I could see them hanging 50+ on us easily. We don't match up well with Wazzu.

And this one was solid too.

You just get the feeling a huge comeback is inevitable. Brace for the collapse.

The troll has become boring and predictable.

[pc in NM]

I like this take!

College football picks against the spread: Stewart Mandel’s Week 9 picks

https://theathletic.com/5000483/2023/10 ... ign=602288



No. 11 Oregon State (-3.5) at Arizona, 10:30 p.m. (ESPN)

Arizona has been one of the season’s most pleasant surprises. Jedd Fisch’s 4-3 team can score points, but it also has a much-improved defense. The Wildcats have faced the likes of Michael Penix Jr., Caleb Williams and Cam Ward, yet have allowed just five passing TDs on the season. They’ll make life difficult for Oregon State’s DJ Uiagalelei.

Arizona 27, Oregon State 24

The pick: Arizona +3.5