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azcat49 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:21 am Two things seen certain, first we must win out and second, Oregon needs a loss. I can see the first but hard for me to see the latter
It’s all about that civil war rivalry. OSU is good enough to win, to bad it’s at Oregon.
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Can we get some clarity here?
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Carcassdragger wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:30 am Can we get some clarity here?

Two-Team Tie

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Tracking Arizona Wildcats’ snap counts and PFF grades at Colorado
By Ezra Amacher Nov 12, 2023

The Arizona Wildcats played 65 offensive snaps and 70 defensive snaps in their 34-31 win over Colorado Saturday. Here is how much each player played along with their Pro Football Focus grades.

Offense
QB Noah Fifita, 65 (79.3)
RT Jonah Savaiinaea, 65 (66.6)
RG Raymond Pulido, 65 (61.6)
C Josh Baker, 65 (66.1)
LG Wendell Moe, 65 (64.8)
LT Jordan Morgan, 65 (65.5)
WR Tetairoa McMillan, 63 (73.6)
TE Tanner McLachlan, 62 (41.1)
WR Montana Lemonious-Craig, 55 (71.6)
WR Jacob Cowing, 47 (57.2)
RB Jonah Coleman, 40 (77.6)
RB D.J. Williams, 17 (60.3)
TE Keyan Burnett, 14 (50.2)
WR AJ Jones, 11 (57.9)
TE Roberto Miranda, 7 (58.2)
RB Rayshon Luke, 7 (57.7)
RB Michael Wiley, 2 (65.3)
Defense
CB Treydan Stukes, 70 (56.0)
LB Jacob Manu, 70 (76.9)
S Dalton Johnson, 70 (56.5)
CB Tacario Davis, 70 (73.7)
CB Ephesians Prysock, 70 (63.5)
S Gunner Maldonado, 70 (69.0)
DL Taylor Upshaw, 42 (62.2)
DE Isaiah Ward, 40 (70.9)
CB Martell Irby, 37 (66.2)
DE Ta’ita’i Uiagalelei, 33 (60.8)
NT Bill Norton, 27 (78.5)
DL Russell Davis II, 25 (70.8)
DT Jacob Kongaika, 23 (65.1)
DT Tyler Manoa, 22 (68.0)
DT Tiaolii Savea, 19 (53.1)
LB Kamuela Ka’aihue, 17 (57.0)
S Genesis Smith, 15 (68.3)
DL Dominic Lolesio, 10 (63.2)
S DJ Warnell Jr., 10 (69.9)
LB Jeremy Mercier, 9 (64.7)
NT Sio Nofoagatoto’a, 9 (66.3)
DE Sterling Lane, 5 (66.2)
LB Daniel Heimuli, 5 (62.9)
LB Justin Flowe, 2 (65.5)
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#22 in the Coaches poll
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Utah is #16.

Back to being underdogs
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My current concern is Fafita getting TMac broken in half with all the high throws.
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Postmaster wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:40 pm My current concern is Fafita getting TMac broken in half with all the high throws.
Yes!
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Chicat wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:58 pm #22 in the Coaches poll
#19 in the AP. We are no longer under the radar.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Chicat wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:07 pm
Chicat wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:58 pm #22 in the Coaches poll
#19 in the AP. We are no longer under the radar.
Maybe we are!
Auerbach’s Top 10: Alabama over Texas? Oregon over Washington? November providing clarity

Each Saturday night throughout the season, I’ll rank the 10 best teams in the country. The order will fluctuate week to week based on new results, player availability and whatever else impacts this chaotic sport. This is obviously a subjective process, and I look forward to the arguments. The final spot each week will go to a team that may not actually be the 10th best team in the country but still deserves a little shine.

10. Arizona (7-3)


The Wildcats are flying a bit under the radar nationally, maybe because they’re not in the Pac-12 championship race and some of their best performances have come well past everyone’s bedtime on the East Coast. But Arizona is a great example of a downtrodden program building itself back up until the results show up in the win column. Jedd Fisch’s squad went 1-11 in Year 1, 5-7 last season and is now bowl-bound at 7-3, on a four-game winning streak that includes three wins over AP top-20 teams. Quarterback Noah Fifita, who began the season as the backup, was thrust into the starting role against Stanford on Sept. 23 and has largely thrived since. Even after a slow start Saturday, he finished with 214 yards and two touchdowns in the come-from-behind 34-31 win at Colorado.

So much of this season’s success is due to Fisch’s 2022 recruiting class, and it’s all a great example of patience and a plan paying off for a rebuild. Arizona may not be headed to Las Vegas, but this team has not been an easy out for anyone. And the Wildcats are only trending upward.
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They’re breaking teams.
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That shows how physical this group is. Saturday will be a rough and tumble game
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UAEebs86 wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:33 am
2-7. Both Washington and Oregon St won the following week.
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I want the Alamo vs Oklahoma
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azcat49 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:06 pm I want the Alamo vs Oklahoma
I want Vegas just because UA Basketball is already playing there

But if no Vegas then Alamo v Oklahoma is absolutely the best option
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I want the Alamo because it is separate from the basketball team. I know that would be an epic day but it’s pre Christmas which gives off a minor league bowl IMO.

I think Oklahoma would be a great opponent. A team with great heritage moving to the SEC. Dreaming as it is because we have to win twice and UDub needs to go into the PAC championship undefeated and I think OSU beats them this week
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I'm having trouble groking this article: College football midseason freshman All-America team: Caleb Downs, Zachariah Branch and more

Arizona has an entry on offense: Wendell Moe. Good on Moe, but isn't there a more visible freshman?
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RichardCranium wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:07 pm I'm having trouble groking this article: College football midseason freshman All-America team: Caleb Downs, Zachariah Branch and more

Arizona has an entry on offense: Wendell Moe. Good on Moe, but isn't there a more visible freshman?
Wendell Moe is fair dinkum
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So is Fifita, isn't he?
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Pullido too if he hadn't gotten hurt early. Took Magnuson's starting position already.
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And good riddance!
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It's still sad though
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

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So beat ASU next week and have OSU lose to UW and then have OSU beat Oregon and we're in the title game
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“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
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ASUHATER! wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:46 pm It's still sad though
Not in the slightest.
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Clue swinging a 2 x 4.
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Eleven games. Behind once at end of regulation.
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wyo-cat wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:16 pm Clue swinging a 2 x 4.
That guy is awesome.
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AZCatGirl wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:57 am And good riddance!
Can we put the XII on there now? Or is it going to be the XVI?
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TheCatInTheHat wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:42 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:57 am And good riddance!
Can we put the XII on there now? Or is it going to be the XVI?
Should make it the “Big A” because we are going to own that goddamn conference.
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Still blows me away we're 2 OT losses from being in playoff contention and 16 points away from being undefeated and a top 3-4 team.
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Best team since 2014 for sure.

Maybe since ‘98?
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Chicat wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:48 pm Best team since 2014 for sure.

Maybe since ‘98?
I feel like this team is better than 2014. That team seemed to have a lot of luck go their way (nothing wrong with that). This team is just solid.
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I wonder how Barrs is feeling about “the most wins of his career” now?
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gouacats wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:15 pm
Chicat wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:48 pm Best team since 2014 for sure.

Maybe since ‘98?
I feel like this team is better than 2014. That team seemed to have a lot of luck go their way (nothing wrong with that). This team is just solid.
For a good team luck is pro-cyclical. It's the same for every category of competition.
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azgreg wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:09 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:46 pm It's still sad though
Not in the slightest.
It is. We're not a Midwest plains school. It's not our culture or identity or our fit. It makes no sense to play Baylor, West Virginia and Iowa State instead of Cal, Oregon and UCLA...unless it's for money. Just is sad money dictated this and it isn't what Arizona belongs with.
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ASUHATER! wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:28 pm
azgreg wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:09 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:46 pm It's still sad though
Not in the slightest.
It is. We're not a Midwest plains school. It's not our culture or identity or our fit. It makes no sense to play Baylor, West Virginia and Iowa State instead of Cal, Oregon and UCLA...unless it's for money. Just is sad money dictated this and it isn't what Arizona belongs with.
Blame the corksuckers at UCLA and USC.

It was survival, not money that pushed us to the B12.
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ASUHATER! wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:28 pm
azgreg wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:09 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:46 pm It's still sad though
Not in the slightest.
It is. We're not a Midwest plains school. It's not our culture or identity or our fit. It makes no sense to play Baylor, West Virginia and Iowa State instead of Cal, Oregon and UCLA...unless it's for money. Just is sad money dictated this and it isn't what Arizona belongs with.
I am sad the PAC has died.

But, where do you think the majority of Tucson’s, and Arizona’s, population moved here from? Yep, the so-called “Midwest plains”…
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scumdevils86 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:53 pm Still blows me away we're 2 OT losses from being in playoff contention and 16 points away from being undefeated and a top 3-4 team.
Makes you wonder what our record would be if Fifita had played all season.
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10-1, that's would be our record
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pc in NM wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:55 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:28 pm
azgreg wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:09 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:46 pm It's still sad though
Not in the slightest.
It is. We're not a Midwest plains school. It's not our culture or identity or our fit. It makes no sense to play Baylor, West Virginia and Iowa State instead of Cal, Oregon and UCLA...unless it's for money. Just is sad money dictated this and it isn't what Arizona belongs with.
I am sad the PAC has died.

But, where do you think the majority of Tucson’s, and Arizona’s, population moved here from? Yep, the so-called “Midwest plains”…
They haven't though. At least 40% alone are native born or are from Mexico. And that's just the Hispanic population. Lots are actually from Arizona or are from California.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
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Tracking Arizona Wildcats’ snap counts and PFF grades vs. Utah
By Ezra Amacher Nov 19, 2023,

The Arizona Wildcats played 57 offensive snaps and 97 defensive snaps in their 42-18 win over Utah. Here is how much each player played along with their Pro Football Focus grades.

Offense
RT Jonah Savaiinaea, 57 (55.2)
RG Raymond Pulido, 57 (60.4)
C Josh Baker, 57 (49.5)
LG Wendell Moe, 57 (64.5)
LT Jordan Morgan, 57 (69.0)
WR Tetairoa McMillan, 54 (81.0)
QB Noah Fifita, 53 (79.9)
TE Tanner McLachlan, 50 (83.7)
WR Montana Lemonious-Craig, 45 (61.8)
WR Jacob Cowing, 40 (53.8)
RB Jonah Coleman, 33 (70.3)
RB Michael Wiley, 14 (85.5)
WR Kevin Green Jr., 12 (68.1)
TE Keyan Burnett, 10 (66.2)
WR Malachi Riley, 9 (67.7)
RB Rayshon Luke, 7 (65.3)
TE Roberto Miranda, 5 (62.8)
QB Jayden de Laura, 4 (84.9)
RB D.J. Williams, 3 (58.3)
WR AJ Jones, 3 (57.3)
Defense
LB Jacob Manu, 80 (67.6)
CB Treydan Stukes, 77 (78.1)
CB Ephesians Prysock, 77 (75.4)
S Gunner Maldonado, 77 (76.9)
S Dalton Johnson, 76 (65.2)
LB Kamuela Ka’aihue, 53 (58.3)
CB Tacario Davis, 48 (70.9)
DE Isaiah Ward, 47 (65.3)
DL Taylor Upshaw, 46 (70.1)
DE Ta’ita’i Uiagalelei, 42 (65.9)
DT Jacob Kongaika, 37 (54.9)
S Genesis Smith, 32 (66.8)
LB Jeremy Mercier, 32 (54.8)
S DJ Warnell Jr., 32 (63.7)
S Dylan Wyatt, 32 (68.1)
DT Tiaolii Savea, 31 (70.5)
NT Bill Norton, 31 (72.4)
NT Sio Nofoagatoto’a, 26 (52.9)
DT Tyler Manoa, 25 (63.1)
DL Dominic Lolesio, 22 (55.7)
LB Daniel Heimuli, 20 (66.1)
S Isaiah Taylor, 17 (52.4)
CB Charles Yates Jr., 16 (53.2)
DT Keanu Mailoto, 16 (64.1)
LB Taye Brown, 14 (57.2)
CB Jai-Ayviauynn Celestine, 13 (64.2)
DE Sterling Lane, 7 (58.1)
LB Justin Flowe, 6 (42.8)
CB Devin Dunn, 1 (60.0)
CB Jeffrey Robinson, 1 (60.0)
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