Arizona Head Coach Brent Brennan

[CalStateTempe]

Former mid major ad gonna support mid major fb coach.

I should’ve been a college fb coach. The bar is that low.

[gronk4heisman]

Only hope is that someone comes in and takes over his hiring of coaches and support staff over the offseason and explains to him this is not the mountain west anymore and we go all in on an innovative upcoming OC.

[Merkin]

Only hope is that someone comes in and takes over his hiring of coaches and support staff over the offseason and explains to him this is not the mountain west anymore and we go all in on an innovative upcoming OC.

Like CBB said himself, he is just a CEO and does not call any offensive or defensive plays.

Just make him Joe Pa for the meet and greets and let real non-Tomey young and aggressive coaches come in.

[gronk4heisman]

Only hope is that someone comes in and takes over his hiring of coaches and support staff over the offseason and explains to him this is not the mountain west anymore and we go all in on an innovative upcoming OC.

Like CBB said himself, he is just a CEO and does not call any offensive or defensive plays.

Just make him Joe Pa for the meet and greets and let real non-Tomey young and aggressive coaches come in.

Problem is that CEO made unbelievable awful hires up and down the staff outside Akina.

[pc in NM]

I honestly don't think any coach could make this offensive line successful - it's a dangerous liability... It's a miracle Fifita hasn't been injured!

The transfers selected to replace those that left have utterly failed and/or have failed to develop.

Whatever one says about Fisch and his staff, they were great evaluators of talent, and built around the available talent.

[Postmaster]

Building around available talent is the big issue right now. There does not seem to be any adjustments to the scheme.

[BBQ wildcat]

The word, "inept", keeps popping into my head. It seems it applies to everyone from the head coach on down. Individual players aren't (mostly) inept, but the team, as a whole, definitely is. And that is ALL on the head coach.

[PHXCATS]

You can tell who listens to Scheer and Luke and who doesn't

[Carcassdragger]

You can tell who listens to Scheer and Luke and who doesn't

How would you know unless they include you?

[PHXCATS]

You can tell who listens to Scheer and Luke and who doesn't

How would you know unless they include you?

It is super easy to tell

Same lame ass talking points. Same takes. Same shitty heading

[Chicat]

You can tell who listens to Scheer and Luke and who doesn't

How would you know unless they include you?

[Carcassdragger]

You can tell who listens to Scheer and Luke and who doesn't

How would you know unless they include you?

It is super easy to tell

Same lame ass talking points. Same takes. Same shitty heading

Again, you could only know this if you're listening too.

[PHXCATS]

You can tell who listens to Scheer and Luke and who doesn't

How would you know unless they include you?

It is super easy to tell

Same lame ass talking points. Same takes. Same shitty heading

Again, you could only know this if you're listening too.

Not at all

If there is a twitter calling card for Scheer and Luke listeners and fanboys and you see those fanboys saying the same exact things on here, you know

[Carcassdragger]

You can tell who listens to Scheer and Luke and who doesn't

How would you know unless they include you?

It is super easy to tell

Same lame ass talking points. Same takes. Same shitty heading

Again, you could only know this if you're listening too.

Not at all

If there is a twitter calling card for Scheer and Luke listeners and fanboys and you see those fanboys saying the same exact things on here, you know

Pffft. Ha. Ok dude.

[Chicat]

Brent Brennan is Mountain West okay.

[Fishclamps]

[IrishAzCat]

[ChooChooCat]

You can tell who listens to Scheer and Luke and who doesn't

How would you know unless they include you?

It is super easy to tell

Same lame ass talking points. Same takes. Same shitty heading

Again, you could only know this if you're listening too.

Not at all

If there is a twitter calling card for Scheer and Luke listeners and fanboys and you see those fanboys saying the same exact things on here, you know

Are they saying the team is poorly coached? If they are then they're right. I guess that makes me a Scheer/Luke fanboy or some shit. That or I have functional eyesight and a frontal cerebral cortex. Call me whatever you want I guess.

[Merkin]

Haha Gumby! Need to add message board fan support too.

[TheCatInTheHat]

Brent Brennan is Mountain West okay.

That's about the size of it, and even at the MWC level, it's just "okay" versus "good."

The structure of the offensive coaching staff setup was always questionable, with Babers never particularly great at it, as well as being long-removed from the OC role, and with Adkins as the "passing coordinator" (or with whatever title), and Oglesby as the "running coordinator." Committees are great for avoiding direct responsibility, but that's about it. So instead of coming in and executing an approach known to work at this level and with the available personnel, they're still putting their heads together and "figuring it out."

On the other side of the ball, Akina wants to have a big-hitting, dominant, turnover-causing defense. So how's it going so far? To "get a pass rush", we jump offsides, overcommit, overrun plays, and then miss tackles. I'd think if you're outmanned (due to injuries or whatever), you try to minimize big plays, keep everything in front of you, and focus on sure tackling, rather than gambling to "get the defense off the field."
For example, Jim Young focused on stripping and tipping to get turnovers (admittedly a long time ago in the WAC.) It's boring, and you give up long grinding drives, and then your offense has to be able to match the opposition.

And even the kicking game. By all accounts, Danny Gonzales was a fairly well-regarded DC, and maybe he's been intended as the successor to Akina, like Adkins to Babers. But in addition to being the LB coach, he's also the ST coordinator, and we've now been burned by fake FGs twice. This time because we aggressively loaded up for a block, which was anticipated by WVU in their film review. It's fine to push to create turnovers, but it's just a case of appropriate judgment regarding risk/reward.

I can't comment on S&C vs. injuries due to lack of data. I haven't really paid attention to it this year, but I know Fisch made the OL wear knee braces on every snap, even in practice.

Brennan created and owns the current structure and approach, and his "aw shucks, everybody relax" persona (complete with the Ti leaf leis) rather than more show of intensity and urgency, doesn't particularly help. Maybe some Red Bull.

I kind of liked the idea of taking somebody with an NFL (offensive) assistant background from successful pro teams who wants head coaching experience in college and who duplicates the NFL structure and approach. It seemed to eventually work pretty well under Fisch, so I'm a little surprised we went in completely the opposite direction. When your organization has to change, keep what works and make modifications, but don't always start over from scratch.

[CalStateTempe]

Haha Gumby! Need to add message board fan support too.

Losers make excuses.

Winners find a way and adapt.

[azcat49]

I think Heeke knew he had to get somebody fast with Fisch lurking and wanting our guys. He knew Brennan coveted this job and it was the path with least resistance.

I wonder what DRF is planning? Is there money? Does she just tell him to gut the offensive staff?

Winning is the only thing that will get the fans back who have turned vitriolic against Brennan

[ChooChooCat]

I think Heeke knew he had to get somebody fast with Fisch lurking and wanting our guys. He knew Brennan covered this job and it was the path with least resistance.

I wonder what DRF is planning? Is there money? Does she just tell him to gut the offensive staff?

Winning is the only thing that will get the fans back who have turned vitriolic against Brennan

There are certainly talks going on with the boosters. I have no idea if they will come through with the money to make it happen though, but the boosters are started to activate.

[azcat49]

So if she gets the 16m, he is gone. I thought Sumlin’s 10m was a big number. He really will go down as the Ben Lindsey of Football. Somewhere Dave Heeke is smiling even though it’s on him

[PHXCATS]

So if she gets the 16m, he is gone. I thought Sumlin’s 10m was a big number. He really will go down as the Ben Lindsey of Football. Somewhere Dave Heeke is smiling even though it’s on him

He isn't that bad and the team is close

But fans don't care. They wanna follow Scheer and Luke

[AZCatGirl]

I think Heeke knew he had to get somebody fast with Fisch lurking and wanting our guys. He knew Brennan covered this job and it was the path with least resistance.

I wonder what DRF is planning? Is there money? Does she just tell him to gut the offensive staff?

Winning is the only thing that will get the fans back who have turned vitriolic against Brennan

There are certainly talks going on with the boosters. I have no idea if they will come through with the money to make it happen though, but the boosters are started to activate.

Purely my opinion, but I think if ASU blows us out they foot the bill.

[azcat49]

I will give you those two guys have Led the hit parade. Why anyone would listen to Luke is beyond me. The guy can’t even keep a train of thought. Shocked Scheer cohorts with him

This is going to get ugly. Brennan will need to do something drastic and immediate like literally firing staff members (which is out of character for him I perceive) this week.

Not sure how much confidence I have in our AD in finding a competent coach but I do like her women’s golf coach hire.

It must be miserable in the Brennan household. I feel bad for their family and especially his wife.

[AZarchery]

So if she gets the 16m, he is gone. I thought Sumlin’s 10m was a big number. He really will go down as the Ben Lindsey of Football. Somewhere Dave Heeke is smiling even though it’s on him

He isn't that bad and the team is close

But fans don't care. They wanna follow Scheer and Luke

As 4.5 point favorites, we got beat by a 2nd string qb at home. Furthermore, we lost to a team who traveled 2500 miles and hasn’t been ranked since 2019.

Close to what? The only thing we’re close to is the bottom of the Big 12.

[Merkin]

Just sticking to facts here. CBB:

1. Has never won more than 7 games in a season
2. Has never won a bowl game
3. The only ranked team he ever beat at SJSU was #25 Fresno State. Was Utah ranked when UA beat them?
4. Is the lowest paid football coach in the B12

Not CBB, but UA related:
1. UA AD has a $33.6 million deficit for FY24
2. UA itself will run a $52 million deficit for FY25
3. The UA AD borrowed $55M from the university from the pandemic, and last I read was behind on the payments.

Just speculation now, but DRF being a bean counter is looking at the financial statements, not the W/L record.

Heeke/Robbins went shopping at KMart during a blue light special, and this is the result.

Compare CBB's record with the Indiana coach, who never had a losing record in 12 years of small college ball.

[PHXCATS]

So if she gets the 16m, he is gone. I thought Sumlin’s 10m was a big number. He really will go down as the Ben Lindsey of Football. Somewhere Dave Heeke is smiling even though it’s on him

He isn't that bad and the team is close

But fans don't care. They wanna follow Scheer and Luke

As 4.5 point favorites, we got beat by a 2nd string qb at home. Furthermore, we lost to a team who traveled 2500 miles and hasn’t been ranked since 2019.

Close to what? The only thing we’re close to is the bottom of the Big 12.

The travel and backup QB was factored into the spread

To winning. UA scores a TD on their opening drive I 100% think they win

Moved the ball at absolute will early. Stupid fumble

But I bet Luke and Scheer blame the coaches for that

[PHXCATS]

Just sticking to facts here. CBB:

1. Has never won more than 7 games in a season
2. Has never won a bowl game
3. The only ranked team he ever beat at SJSU was #25 Fresno State. Was Utah ranked when UA beat them?
4. Is the lowest paid football coach in the B12

Not CBB, but UA related:
1. UA AD has a $33.6 million deficit for FY24
2. UA itself will run a $52 million deficit for FY25
3. The UA AD borrowed $55M from the university from the pandemic, and last I read was behind on the payments.

Just speculation now, but DRF being a bean counter is looking at the financial statements, not the W/L record.

Heeke/Robbins went shopping at KMart during a blue light special, and this is the result.

Compare CBB's record with the Indiana coach, who never had a losing record in 12 years of small college ball.

Yes Utah was #10 for fuck sake

DRF is doing what is best for the department not appeasing the loser loudmouths

[Chicat]

So if she gets the 16m, he is gone. I thought Sumlin’s 10m was a big number. He really will go down as the Ben Lindsey of Football. Somewhere Dave Heeke is smiling even though it’s on him

He isn't that bad and the team is close

But fans don't care. They wanna follow Scheer and Luke

This is hilarious. Do you even watch Arizona football?

[TheCatInTheHat]

So if she gets the 16m, he is gone. I thought Sumlin’s 10m was a big number. He really will go down as the Ben Lindsey of Football. Somewhere Dave Heeke is smiling even though it’s on him

It would be hard for me to believe our boosters would come up with $16 for yet another coaching buy-out, but you never can tell. One completely random guess would be that maybe Babers plays the noble soldier (for some extra undisclosed booster cash), has a face-saving "retirement" and becomes the de facto scapegoat. And they say Adkins obviously isn't ready and it's back to TE coach, unless he leaves over it. And they bring in somebody allegedly decent with his own system as the OC. The last part's the hard one. Anybody really good would be pricey, and a threat to Brennan to become HC.

[AZarchery]

So if she gets the 16m, he is gone. I thought Sumlin’s 10m was a big number. He really will go down as the Ben Lindsey of Football. Somewhere Dave Heeke is smiling even though it’s on him

He isn't that bad and the team is close

But fans don't care. They wanna follow Scheer and Luke

As 4.5 point favorites, we got beat by a 2nd string qb at home. Furthermore, we lost to a team who traveled 2500 miles and hasn’t been ranked since 2019.

Close to what? The only thing we’re close to is the bottom of the Big 12.

The travel and backup QB was factored into the spread

To winning. UA scores a TD on their opening drive I 100% think they win

Moved the ball at absolute will early. Stupid fumble

But I bet Luke and Scheer blame the coaches for that

Exactly. Vegas is telling us we should win based on our talent. But our coaching staff is pissing that talent away.

I 100% think I look like Brad Pitt. Sadly in reality I don’t. In reality this team didn’t score on the opening drive. It’s a good thought though.

This team leads the big 12 in turnovers, I guess that has nothing to do with coaching though?

[RawleArenas]

Brent Brennan is Mountain West okay.

That's about the size of it, and even at the MWC level, it's just "okay" versus "good."

The structure of the offensive coaching staff setup was always questionable, with Babers never particularly great at it, as well as being long-removed from the OC role, and with Adkins as the "passing coordinator" (or with whatever title), and Oglesby as the "running coordinator." Committees are great for avoiding direct responsibility, but that's about it. So instead of coming in and executing an approach known to work at this level and with the available personnel, they're still putting their heads together and "figuring it out."

On the other side of the ball, Akina wants to have a big-hitting, dominant, turnover-causing defense. So how's it going so far? To "get a pass rush", we jump offsides, overcommit, overrun plays, and then miss tackles. I'd think if you're outmanned (due to injuries or whatever), you try to minimize big plays, keep everything in front of you, and focus on sure tackling, rather than gambling to "get the defense off the field."
For example, Jim Young focused on stripping and tipping to get turnovers (admittedly a long time ago in the WAC.) It's boring, and you give up long grinding drives, and then your offense has to be able to match the opposition.

And even the kicking game. By all accounts, Danny Gonzales was a fairly well-regarded DC, and maybe he's been intended as the successor to Akina, like Adkins to Babers. But in addition to being the LB coach, he's also the ST coordinator, and we've now been burned by fake FGs twice. This time because we aggressively loaded up for a block, which was anticipated by WVU in their film review. It's fine to push to create turnovers, but it's just a case of appropriate judgment regarding risk/reward.

I can't comment on S&C vs. injuries due to lack of data. I haven't really paid attention to it this year, but I know Fisch made the OL wear knee braces on every snap, even in practice.

Brennan created and owns the current structure and approach, and his "aw shucks, everybody relax" persona (complete with the Ti leaf leis) rather than more show of intensity and urgency, doesn't particularly help. Maybe some Red Bull.

I kind of liked the idea of taking somebody with an NFL (offensive) assistant background from successful pro teams who wants head coaching experience in college and who duplicates the NFL structure and approach. It seemed to eventually work pretty well under Fisch, so I'm a little surprised we went in completely the opposite direction. When your organization has to change, keep what works and make modifications, but don't always start over from scratch.

I could understand Heeke's interest in Brennan three years ago. He appeared to be on the upswing, and we were reeling from Sumlin. But even still, going from mid major to high major requires major chops. He regressed big time from the 2021 to now. And after watching what Fisch did in terms of performance and raising the bar, Brennan should have been taken out of consideration altogether. DRF may have to hire some private investigators to try to find reasons to fire him for cause, or she is going to have to take over the program and cut Brennan off at at the knees, essentially making him a lame duck.

[dmjcat]

Just sticking to facts here. CBB:

1. Has never won more than 7 games in a season
2. Has never won a bowl game
3. The only ranked team he ever beat at SJSU was #25 Fresno State. Was Utah ranked when UA beat them?
4. Is the lowest paid football coach in the B12

Not CBB, but UA related:
1. UA AD has a $33.6 million deficit for FY24
2. UA itself will run a $52 million deficit for FY25
3. The UA AD borrowed $55M from the university from the pandemic, and last I read was behind on the payments.

Just speculation now, but DRF being a bean counter is looking at the financial statements, not the W/L record.

Heeke/Robbins went shopping at KMart during a blue light special, and this is the result.

Compare CBB's record with the Indiana coach, who never had a losing record in 12 years of small college ball.

Getting rid of Brennan in year 1 is ludicrous, especially when the primary issue is lack of talent. 63% of last years starters are gone.

The primay issue at Arizona has always been RECRUITING. UA Fball coaches have always had to deal with:

1) Tucson is not a hotbed of HS football talent
2) Poor fanbase/support
3) Poor financial support
4) Little or no tradition or history of success

All 4 of these issues have fed into the recruiting issue. Brennan has all 4 of these issues to deal with and he now has to deal with NIL, which isn't helped by #3 on the above list. If there really are UA boosters who are willing to pony up $16M (or whatever the number is) they would be better off giving the money to the UA NIL fund.......we could buy a fairly decent team (for 1 year) with that money.

[AZarchery]

Just sticking to facts here. CBB:

1. Has never won more than 7 games in a season
2. Has never won a bowl game
3. The only ranked team he ever beat at SJSU was #25 Fresno State. Was Utah ranked when UA beat them?
4. Is the lowest paid football coach in the B12

Not CBB, but UA related:
1. UA AD has a $33.6 million deficit for FY24
2. UA itself will run a $52 million deficit for FY25
3. The UA AD borrowed $55M from the university from the pandemic, and last I read was behind on the payments.

Just speculation now, but DRF being a bean counter is looking at the financial statements, not the W/L record.

Heeke/Robbins went shopping at KMart during a blue light special, and this is the result.

Compare CBB's record with the Indiana coach, who never had a losing record in 12 years of small college ball.

Getting rid of Brennan in year 1 is ludicrous, especially when the primary issue is lack of talent. 63% of last years starters are gone.

The primay issue at Arizona has always been RECRUITING. UA Fball coaches have always had to deal with:

1) Tucson is not a hotbed of HS football talent
2) Poor fanbase/support
3) Poor financial support
4) Little or no tradition or history of success

All 4 of these issues have fed into the recruiting issue. Brennan has all 4 of these issues to deal with and he now has to deal with NIL, which isn't helped by #3 on the above list. If there really are UA boosters who are willing to pony up $16M (or whatever the number is) they would be better off giving the money to the UA NIL fund.......we could buy a fairly decent team (for 1 year) with that money.

Brennan has the most talented team he will ever have, right now. If he can’t win with them then he will never win.

The dumbest thing we could ever do is give him 16 mil in NIL to piss away.

I am shocked some of you think a coach who barely won at SJSU will miraculously become successful in the Big 12

[dmjcat]

Just sticking to facts here. CBB:

1. Has never won more than 7 games in a season
2. Has never won a bowl game
3. The only ranked team he ever beat at SJSU was #25 Fresno State. Was Utah ranked when UA beat them?
4. Is the lowest paid football coach in the B12

Not CBB, but UA related:
1. UA AD has a $33.6 million deficit for FY24
2. UA itself will run a $52 million deficit for FY25
3. The UA AD borrowed $55M from the university from the pandemic, and last I read was behind on the payments.

Just speculation now, but DRF being a bean counter is looking at the financial statements, not the W/L record.

Heeke/Robbins went shopping at KMart during a blue light special, and this is the result.

Compare CBB's record with the Indiana coach, who never had a losing record in 12 years of small college ball.

Getting rid of Brennan in year 1 is ludicrous, especially when the primary issue is lack of talent. 63% of last years starters are gone.

The primay issue at Arizona has always been RECRUITING. UA Fball coaches have always had to deal with:

1) Tucson is not a hotbed of HS football talent
2) Poor fanbase/support
3) Poor financial support
4) Little or no tradition or history of success

All 4 of these issues have fed into the recruiting issue. Brennan has all 4 of these issues to deal with and he now has to deal with NIL, which isn't helped by #3 on the above list. If there really are UA boosters who are willing to pony up $16M (or whatever the number is) they would be better off giving the money to the UA NIL fund.......we could buy a fairly decent team (for 1 year) with that money.

Brennan has the most talented team he will ever have, right now. If he can’t win with them then he will never win.

The dumbest thing we could ever do is give him 16 mil in NIL to piss away.

I am shocked some of you think a coach who barely won at SJSU will miraculously become successful in the Big 12

"The most talented team he will ever have"??????????????

The team that lost its entire starting defensive front to the portal and 3 offensive players to the NFL???

The team playing with 1/3rd of last years starters???

LOL x 1 million Get a grip.

[AZarchery]

"The most talented team he will ever have"??????????????

The team that lost its entire starting defensive front to the portal and 3 offensive players to the NFL???

The team playing with 1/3rd of last years starters???

LOL x 1 million Get a grip.

Please tell me what Brennan has done thus far that gives you any confidence in the future? Because nothing in his past proves he can win.

And yes. This will be his most talented team. The defense we’re seeing right now is what we’ll see starting next year and the offense won’t have t Mac or fifita.

[Carcassdragger]

Just sticking to facts here. CBB:

1. Has never won more than 7 games in a season
2. Has never won a bowl game
3. The only ranked team he ever beat at SJSU was #25 Fresno State. Was Utah ranked when UA beat them?
4. Is the lowest paid football coach in the B12

Not CBB, but UA related:
1. UA AD has a $33.6 million deficit for FY24
2. UA itself will run a $52 million deficit for FY25
3. The UA AD borrowed $55M from the university from the pandemic, and last I read was behind on the payments.

Just speculation now, but DRF being a bean counter is looking at the financial statements, not the W/L record.

Heeke/Robbins went shopping at KMart during a blue light special, and this is the result.

Compare CBB's record with the Indiana coach, who never had a losing record in 12 years of small college ball.

Getting rid of Brennan in year 1 is ludicrous, especially when the primary issue is lack of talent. 63% of last years starters are gone.

The primay issue at Arizona has always been RECRUITING. UA Fball coaches have always had to deal with:

1) Tucson is not a hotbed of HS football talent
2) Poor fanbase/support
3) Poor financial support
4) Little or no tradition or history of success

All 4 of these issues have fed into the recruiting issue. Brennan has all 4 of these issues to deal with and he now has to deal with NIL, which isn't helped by #3 on the above list. If there really are UA boosters who are willing to pony up $16M (or whatever the number is) they would be better off giving the money to the UA NIL fund.......we could buy a fairly decent team (for 1 year) with that money.

Brennan has the most talented team he will ever have, right now. If he can’t win with them then he will never win.

The dumbest thing we could ever do is give him 16 mil in NIL to piss away.

I am shocked some of you think a coach who barely won at SJSU will miraculously become successful in the Big 12

"The most talented team he will ever have"??????????????

The team that lost its entire starting defensive front to the portal and 3 offensive players to the NFL???

The team playing with 1/3rd of last years starters???

LOL x 1 million Get a grip.

Yes. The most talented team he will ever had.

When will he have:

1. The PAC 12 returning offensive player of the year who is also the National offensive freshman of the year.

2. Arguably the best receiver in the nation

3. A likely first round draftee on the offensive line.

4. A possible first round draftee defensive back.

5..Arguably the best kicker in the country

6. The Pac 12 leading tackler from the year before.

7. A host of very good defensive backs.

Yes. Other than last year, this is one of the most talented group of players we've seen.

[PHXCATS]

You already admitted to being fair weather

[scumdevils86]

You already admitted to being fair weather

WHO CARES

[Carcassdragger]

Just sticking to facts here. CBB:

1. Has never won more than 7 games in a season
2. Has never won a bowl game
3. The only ranked team he ever beat at SJSU was #25 Fresno State. Was Utah ranked when UA beat them?
4. Is the lowest paid football coach in the B12

Not CBB, but UA related:
1. UA AD has a $33.6 million deficit for FY24
2. UA itself will run a $52 million deficit for FY25
3. The UA AD borrowed $55M from the university from the pandemic, and last I read was behind on the payments.

Just speculation now, but DRF being a bean counter is looking at the financial statements, not the W/L record.

Heeke/Robbins went shopping at KMart during a blue light special, and this is the result.

Compare CBB's record with the Indiana coach, who never had a losing record in 12 years of small college ball.

Getting rid of Brennan in year 1 is ludicrous, especially when the primary issue is lack of talent. 63% of last years starters are gone.

The primay issue at Arizona has always been RECRUITING. UA Fball coaches have always had to deal with:

1) Tucson is not a hotbed of HS football talent
2) Poor fanbase/support
3) Poor financial support
4) Little or no tradition or history of success

All 4 of these issues have fed into the recruiting issue. Brennan has all 4 of these issues to deal with and he now has to deal with NIL, which isn't helped by #3 on the above list. If there really are UA boosters who are willing to pony up $16M (or whatever the number is) they would be better off giving the money to the UA NIL fund.......we could buy a fairly decent team (for 1 year) with that money.

Brennan has the most talented team he will ever have, right now. If he can’t win with them then he will never win.

The dumbest thing we could ever do is give him 16 mil in NIL to piss away.

I am shocked some of you think a coach who barely won at SJSU will miraculously become successful in the Big 12

"The most talented team he will ever have"??????????????

The team that lost its entire starting defensive front to the portal and 3 offensive players to the NFL???

The team playing with 1/3rd of last years starters???

LOL x 1 million Get a grip.

Yes. The most talented team he will ever had.

When will he have:

1. The PAC 12 returning offensive player of the year who is also the National offensive freshman of the year.

2. Arguably the best receiver in the nation

3. A likely first round draftee on the offensive line.

4. A possible first round draftee defensive back.

5..Arguably the best kicker in the country

6. The Pac 12 leading tackler from the year before.

7. A host of very good defensive backs.

Yes. Other than last year, this is one of the most talented group of players we've seen.

BTW I am in favor of keeping and supporting CBB through at least year 2.

[ChooChooCat]

So if she gets the 16m, he is gone. I thought Sumlin’s 10m was a big number. He really will go down as the Ben Lindsey of Football. Somewhere Dave Heeke is smiling even though it’s on him

I believe it's just 14 million, but either way if things continue on the path they are on, the boosters, who are for the most part convinced that this won't work, will be completely convinced it won't work and will probably activate and raise the funds. No promises of course, because it sure as hell isn't my money on the line here. Best believe if they do come through with the money that the boosters will be the ones making this hire and not Arizona. Maybe they'll give DRF a voice, but yeah, they let Heeke hire his guy and I don't think they'd sit back and let DRF have full autonomy on this hire if they're ponying up this amount of cash.

[ChooChooCat]

Just sticking to facts here. CBB:

1. Has never won more than 7 games in a season
2. Has never won a bowl game
3. The only ranked team he ever beat at SJSU was #25 Fresno State. Was Utah ranked when UA beat them?
4. Is the lowest paid football coach in the B12

Not CBB, but UA related:
1. UA AD has a $33.6 million deficit for FY24
2. UA itself will run a $52 million deficit for FY25
3. The UA AD borrowed $55M from the university from the pandemic, and last I read was behind on the payments.

Just speculation now, but DRF being a bean counter is looking at the financial statements, not the W/L record.

Heeke/Robbins went shopping at KMart during a blue light special, and this is the result.

Compare CBB's record with the Indiana coach, who never had a losing record in 12 years of small college ball.

Getting rid of Brennan in year 1 is ludicrous, especially when the primary issue is lack of talent. 63% of last years starters are gone.

The primay issue at Arizona has always been RECRUITING. UA Fball coaches have always had to deal with:

1) Tucson is not a hotbed of HS football talent
2) Poor fanbase/support
3) Poor financial support
4) Little or no tradition or history of success

All 4 of these issues have fed into the recruiting issue. Brennan has all 4 of these issues to deal with and he now has to deal with NIL, which isn't helped by #3 on the above list. If there really are UA boosters who are willing to pony up $16M (or whatever the number is) they would be better off giving the money to the UA NIL fund.......we could buy a fairly decent team (for 1 year) with that money.

Brennan has the most talented team he will ever have, right now. If he can’t win with them then he will never win.

The dumbest thing we could ever do is give him 16 mil in NIL to piss away.

I am shocked some of you think a coach who barely won at SJSU will miraculously become successful in the Big 12

"The most talented team he will ever have"??????????????

The team that lost its entire starting defensive front to the portal and 3 offensive players to the NFL???

The team playing with 1/3rd of last years starters???

LOL x 1 million Get a grip.

Ok, so the team lost its entire starting defensive front. Was defense the problem at any point until recently due to all of the injuries? Against NAU, K State, Utah, Texas Tech, BYU, and Colorado, Arizona put up 16ppg. Is that the defensive lines fault?

Team returned its starting QB fresh off a Freshman Pac-12 POY campaign, returned a 1st round WR, acquired a solid platoon of RBs, and returned 4/5 of its starting OL, and the best it could muster from game 3-8 of the season was 16 points per game.

You get a grip man. Good christ.

Maybe Brent should focus less on vibes and more on hiring an actual QB coach or an OC who has called plays within the last decade next time. There's no excuse for how bad this season's gone outside of pure ineptitude no matter how badly you want there to be. West Virginia was just as injury depleted as we are, and was coached by a guy with a hotter seat than Brent's got now, but we still lost to them at home with our starting QB playing and theirs being out. This is as bad as it gets and it's only going to get worse.

[ChooChooCat]

I think Heeke knew he had to get somebody fast with Fisch lurking and wanting our guys. He knew Brennan covered this job and it was the path with least resistance.

I wonder what DRF is planning? Is there money? Does she just tell him to gut the offensive staff?

Winning is the only thing that will get the fans back who have turned vitriolic against Brennan

There are certainly talks going on with the boosters. I have no idea if they will come through with the money to make it happen though, but the boosters are started to activate.

Purely my opinion, but I think if ASU blows us out they foot the bill.

I agree, if there's another 70-7 or something similar that will motivate money to be removed from wallets.

[Chicat]

Most talented team he will ever have is also a commentary on his recruiting.

If he’s currently pulling in kids at the level or above where Fisch was, then that’s not a factual prediction. But if he isn’t, the product on the field isn’t going to exactly inspire a bunch of 3- & 4-stars to sign with the Cats and our shitty current play could very well doom Brennan to fielding future teams with a whole lot less talent. Anyone seen any evidence he can coach up a bunch of OKGs and turn them into NFL-level talent?

[ChooChooCat]

Most talented team he will ever have is also a commentary on his recruiting.

If he’s currently pulling in kids at the level or above where Fisch was, then that’s not a factual prediction. But if he isn’t, the product on the field isn’t going to exactly inspire a bunch of 3- & 4-stars to sign with the Cats and our shitty current play could very well doom Brennan to fielding future teams with a whole lot less talent. Anyone seen any evidence he can coach up a bunch of OKGs and turn them into NFL-level talent?

There's already "silent decommitments" amongst his top rated recruits as is. This isn't going to get better.

[azgreg]

Fisch had 1 good class (2022) ranked 25th. His other 2 classes were ranked 48th and 51st. Brennan's first class here (2025) is currently ranked 40th but no way it stays there. My guess is it finished up in the 50's somewhere.

[CalStateTempe]

Most talented team he will ever have is also a commentary on his recruiting.

If he’s currently pulling in kids at the level or above where Fisch was, then that’s not a factual prediction. But if he isn’t, the product on the field isn’t going to exactly inspire a bunch of 3- & 4-stars to sign with the Cats and our shitty current play could very well doom Brennan to fielding future teams with a whole lot less talent. Anyone seen any evidence he can coach up a bunch of OKGs and turn them into NFL-level talent?

There's already "silent decommitments" amongst his top rated recruits as is. This isn't going to get better.

lol, coach is getting ghosted