Arizona Head Coach Brent Brennan

[TucsonClip]

Maybe fan site propaganda......haven't heard a word from the AD office about anything nor would expect to given there is a game left. I assume she will make a statement at year end about expectations going forward and if not met those will become the criteria for termination. It is funny but the 3 schools involved it the Nick Saban retirement all hate their coaches. Washington not happy. Alabama outraged and we suck.

Recently I was at an event that had a bunch of Arizona football and athletic department in attendance. Asked several of them in my own way if they had heard anything about DRF raising money to make a move on Brennan. None had.

That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. But it did seem unusual to me and especially when added to the fact that zero of me and “my boys” have heard anything.

I don’t believe it — DRF having the $$$ to fire Brennan — to be false because I don’t know for certain. I just haven’t heard anything.

And I am biased because I want it to be true and for Brennan to get his money today and for Akina to be named head coach for ASU (but that’s it lol).

Agree with your take on the Saban fallout and had the same thought both preseason (is this going to work out for anyone?) because I know Fisch is a fraud, was worried about Brennan’s ability to run and coach a legit program, and who knew if KdB was up to the level of a job like Alabama.

To date it looks like 3 abject hire-failures; and Alabama ain’t Arizona when it comes to hiring football coaches.

I had heard DRF wasn't at some of those "events" as she was wrangling the money to axe Brennan. Had heard the hope was to fire him. Also heard she had the money.

[Postmaster]

Mac Brown is unemployed.

[Winger]

Maybe fan site propaganda......haven't heard a word from the AD office about anything nor would expect to given there is a game left. I assume she will make a statement at year end about expectations going forward and if not met those will become the criteria for termination. It is funny but the 3 schools involved it the Nick Saban retirement all hate their coaches. Washington not happy. Alabama outraged and we suck.

Recently I was at an event that had a bunch of Arizona football and athletic department in attendance. Asked several of them in my own way if they had heard anything about DRF raising money to make a move on Brennan. None had.

That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. But it did seem unusual to me and especially when added to the fact that zero of me and “my boys” have heard anything.

I don’t believe it — DRF having the $$$ to fire Brennan — to be false because I don’t know for certain. I just haven’t heard anything.

And I am biased because I want it to be true and for Brennan to get his money today and for Akina to be named head coach for ASU (but that’s it lol).

Agree with your take on the Saban fallout and had the same thought both preseason (is this going to work out for anyone?) because I know Fisch is a fraud, was worried about Brennan’s ability to run and coach a legit program, and who knew if KdB was up to the level of a job like Alabama.

To date it looks like 3 abject hire-failures; and Alabama ain’t Arizona when it comes to hiring football coaches.

I had heard DRF wasn't at some of those "events" as she was wrangling the money to axe Brennan. Had heard the hope was to fire him. Also heard she had the money.

She wasn’t at the one I was posting about above. Her husband was, however. Take that as you will.

[AZarchery]

Mac Brown is unemployed.

No. Pass. Keeping paying young hungry guys a pile of beans until you hit a home run. why tf would an 18 year old want to play for a 73 year old with a southern accent and has been fired from his 2 most recent coaching stints?

NC has wayyyyyyyyy more money than us and he wasn't successful, how would he ever be successful here?

[Chicat]

Keeping Brent Brennan just shows how seriously fucked the Arizona Athletic Department is.

[Merkin]

I see people on Facebook calling for Lloyd's head.

Do they not see the disaster in the football program?

[Lando05]

Brent is a cuck, he's in over his head.

[TheCatInTheHat]

Completely inept, and an embarrassment to all alums and fans. He's being completely schooled by a coach 17 years his junior. DRF has two choices. She can shrug off a complete failure of a football season in her own Year One based on an eyebrow-raising spate of injuries, cry poor, and wait it out with an incompetent Brent Brennan/Ben Lindsey caliber coach during a crucial time of upheaval on the college athletics landscape. Or she can demonstrate leadership under very difficult circumstances and against serious headwinds. If she expects to have any success at fundraising or in other aspects of school spirit, she'd better figure out how to generate at least moderate consistent winning seasons in football. There's no question she understands that; it's just about her available options under the existing circumstances.

[AZCatGirl]

Team has officially quit on him. He's got to go.

[Chicat]

The only thing he has to sell next year is playing time. That ain’t gonna cut it for anyone except a few 5th/6th year mercenaries who weren’t much good to begin with hoping for one last NIL payout.

[Chicat]

Sooooo… Mario Cristobal and Ryan Day might be available.

[AZCatGirl]

I was just told Brennan just said in the post game, "Stick with us, you're going to love every minute of it."

Is this guy for fucking real?!

[Lando05]

I was just told Brennan just said in the post game, "Stick with us, you're going to love every minute of it."

Is this guy for fucking real?!

What a fraud. Dude has no idea what he's doing.

[AZCatGirl]

Okay fuck off with this bandwagon bullshit. Is Machina writing his post game speech? This dude can't build shit!

[IrishAzCat]

Brennan should be tarred and feathered:

[CatsbyAZ]

Sooooo… Mario Cristobal and Ryan Day might be available.

and Luke Fickell

[Fishclamps]

All losers

[Postmaster]

He had something built when he got here

[UAEebs86]

Brennan should be tarred and feathered:

To steal from Coach on Cheers:

Let's hang him in effigy.

To hell with that. Let's hang him right here in Tucson.

[Chicat]

He had something built when he got here

Exactly!

“Stay to be a part of rebuilding what I ruined” isn’t at all an attractive offer.

[CalStateTempe]

Fuck off CBB

[ztonyg]

He needs to be fired ASAP.

The AD will make a critical mistake if they allow this shitshow to continue.

[BBQ wildcat]

He managed to turn the freshman of the year into a subpar QB. He needs to go!!! NOW!!!

[BBQ wildcat]

It will cost a lot more in lost revenue and goodwill to keep him than it will to fire him

[ztonyg]

It will cost a lot more in lost revenue and goodwill to keep him than it will to fire him

The problem is the politics at play.

ABOR and the legislature already think that Arizona is a dumpster fire of finances. Convincing them to spend more money to fire a football coach and then commit potentially more money to a new coach is much more difficult than convincing fans or boosters to do that.

[Postmaster]

Didn't the ABOR just allow Tempe to roll their athletic debt into general fund?
Their oversight is ridiculous after they let both schools gather so much debt.

[Fishclamps]

It will cost a lot more in lost revenue and goodwill to keep him than it will to fire him

The problem is the politics at play.

ABOR and the legislature already think that Arizona is a dumpster fire of finances. Convincing them to spend more money to fire a football coach and then commit potentially more money to a new coach is much more difficult than convincing fans or boosters to do that.

It would all be funded by boosters if it were to happen, not sure why ABOR would care if we wanted to move on from him

[Merkin]

He still gets full pay if fired next season. It's not until the 3rd year of his contract where his buyout drops to 80%.

Meanwhile SJSU is 7-5 and going bowling with Ken "Trip[p]le option" Niumatalolo.

[Carcassdragger]

I'm leaning toward feeling like he should be fired.

For sure though, if he doesn't plan to eject Babers and his S&C coach, he should definitely be fired.

[azgreg]

He still gets full pay if fired next season. It's not until the 3rd year of his contract where his buyout drops to 80%.

Meanwhile SJSU is 7-5 and going bowling with Ken "Trip[p]le option" Niumatalolo.

70%

[Postmaster]

FWIW, both Eafon and the Howell guy think they should keep CBB. Eaton also said he heard there will be NIL money coming in. (Post game radio show)

[BBQ wildcat]

All the NIL $$$ in the conference won’t fix shitty coaching and conditioning. If he is here next year there are gonna be thousands of $badfans

[Postmaster]

Did anyone else notice that a) MLC was the first guy out to stop the former cat from planting the spork on the logo?
B) Akina was in the middle trying to get everyone to the locker rooms? I didn't see CBB anywhere near it.

[AZCatGirl]

FWIW, both Eafon and the Howell guy think they should keep CBB. Eaton also said he heard there will be NIL money coming in. (Post game radio show)

Did they give reasons why we should keep him? I'm hoping it's more than "it's only his first year".

[PHXCATS]

Okay fuck off with this bandwagon bullshit. Is Machina writing his post game speech? This dude can't build shit!

He is spot on

[Chicat]

He is spot on

Oh yeah? What else is he supposed to say?

[dmjcat]

Just got back home from the game.

The better team won........period.

Coaching had NOTHING to do with this loss. The other team had better talent, especially on both lines.

Brennan inherited a team gutted by the departure of Fisch. If you want to blame someone, blame Jedd.

I doubt Brennan is going anywhere. The #1 thing the program needs is a large infusion of $NIL$.

[Postmaster]

FWIW, both Eafon and the Howell guy think they should keep CBB. Eaton also said he heard there will be NIL money coming in. (Post game radio show)

Did they give reasons why we should keep him? I'm hoping it's more than "it's only his first year".

"You would be starting over again.
If the next guy has a similar season don't you have to fire him?
You have the stick with a new coach so he can get his guys.
You will send a bad message to future coaches for all sports"

Those were the gist of it.

[Postmaster]

Okay fuck off with this bandwagon bullshit. Is Machina writing his post game speech? This dude can't build shit!

He is spot on

Didn't Brennan just jump on a bandwagon when he left SJSU and came here?
Seems like a bad choice of words.

[Postmaster]

Just got back home from the game.

The better team won........period.

Coaching had NOTHING to do with this loss. The other team had better talent, especially on both lines.

Brennan inherited a team gutted by the departure of Fisch. If you want to blame someone, blame Jedd.

I doubt Brennan is going anywhere. The #1 thing the program needs is a large infusion of $NIL$.

They keep running those WR screens. They are not effective plays. The guys don't block them well and the play isn't executed well. Then the coaches call it again.
That means they aren't prepared to run that play and they coach calls it anyway. That is a coaching issue.

I'm agree that AZ doesn't have a quality line. I won't blame that on coaching.

[AZCatGirl]

Just got back home from the game.

The better team won........period.

Coaching had NOTHING to do with this loss. The other team had better talent, especially on both lines.

Brennan inherited a team gutted by the departure of Fisch. If you want to blame someone, blame Jedd.

We wouldn't have been ranked #21 to start the year if we were gutted by Jedd. That's revisionist history.

Not sure how you can blame Fifita's decline on anything BUT coaching. And how do you have a once in a lifetime talent like TMac and not get to a bowl?

[Chicat]

Coaching had NOTHING to do with this loss. The other team had better talent, especially on both lines.

Brennan inherited a team gutted by the departure of Fisch. If you want to blame someone, blame Jedd.

This is revisionist history at its finest but I hope you get what you want dmj. Another couple of years of Brennan with an influx of NIL money.

And when he still can’t recruit and our team is still woefully unprepared and getting stomped on game day, I can’t wait to hear from you how it’s still Jedd Fisch’s fault and how it will just take a few more years and a few more millions because there’s nothing like compounding your mistakes by throwing away time and money we don’t really have to waste.

[azcat49]

The team has just looked so poorly prepared and coached all year with no improvement. For me, that is hard to get past and not sure if simply throwing money at better players will make that significantly better and that’s assuming those better players come to us and want to play for this staff

[Djcat]

That’s dmj solution to both football and bball issues. More NIL. Or excuse for poor performances. Not enough NIL.

No accounting for coaches’ talent evaluations, development, coaching prowess, game management, list goes on.

More NIL $$$$$!!!!

Based on who we have on this team, even with the injuries, a good coach and staff would have them above .500

[Djcat]

Brutal. All the people calling for his firing

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 682437007/

[Chicat]

That’s dmj solution to both football and bball issues. More NIL. Or excuse for poor performances. Not enough NIL.

No accounting for coaches’ talent evaluations, development, coaching prowess, game management, list goes on.

More NIL $$$$$!!!!

Based on who we have on this team, even with the injuries, a good coach and staff would have them above .500

NIL is a cute and convenient excuse for mediocrity. To use it as an argument you have to pretend that both UA has no NIL structure (obviously not true when you consider Fifita and TMac getting enough to actually donate money back and Caleb Love getting his own special NIL fund to come back and be a sucking black hole) and that all schools who beat us have unlimited NIL funds and have the best lineups money can buy (which is just plain dumb).

Do we need money to attract talent? Absolutely. Is that the only thing these kids are looking at? Absolutely not.

Brent Brennan has no history of fielding great teams or putting players in the NFL. He also showed this year that he’s way over his head on game day and doesn’t have the right coaches around him to develop talent and win games.

So sure, throw millions of dollars at recruits and transfers. Then watch them laugh in our face because no one wants to play for a guy who won’t develop their talents or bring the team to a level where they will get the exposure they need to take their career to the next level.

[Winger]

FWIW, both Eafon and the Howell guy think they should keep CBB. Eaton also said he heard there will be NIL money coming in. (Post game radio show)

Did they give reasons why we should keep him? I'm hoping it's more than "it's only his first year".

"You would be starting over again.
If the next guy has a similar season don't you have to fire him?
You have the stick with a new coach so he can get his guys.
You will send a bad message to future coaches for all sports"

Those were the gist of it.

Sometimes it’s so bad in so many places you have to start over again.

If the next guy is as bad as the current guy, yes. But, hopefully you make a much better hire and this is academic. Note that the overall W-L record can be similar but the rest of the head coaching report card be good enough to justify staying the course. There is nuance in this that many fans and most of the media ignore or don’t understand.

Sometimes it’s so bad in so many places you can’t stick with a new coach. And, downstream from that: you don’t want his guys. Some of which Brennan has already lost FTR.

When it’s so bad in so many places sending the message to the other head coaches that that will be tolerated is akin to a tacit surrender and giving in to being a failing athletic department.

Which, when it comes to football specifically, has a ton of downstream deleterious effects on the University at-large.

[AZarchery]

It amazes me that some people don’t want CBB fired. He has done nothing in his entire coaching career that can prove he is capable of being a winner.

Game 1 I chalked up to jitters. When we struggled against NAU at home I knew we were screwed. After the K state blowout I was ready to move on. The team never looked prepared.

The excuses for CBB not having talent are a joke. We covered 2 spreads all year, Utah and Houston. Whether it be pre season ranking, media hype, betting lines or last years expectations, this team never performed to any of those standards. So either ALL of those metrics are wrong or DMJ and Machina are football savants that should be working as GMs in the NFL.

Fire him and take the sting now. You surely won’t be making any money with 8500 people in the stands watching a 4 win team next year and the year after that.

[Winger]

Lev essentially says Brennan is back. Unless, “something changes”.

Would reiterate what I have posted before that, if that ends up being true, I don’t believe DRF ever had the money to can Brennan.

I can see her quietly trying to raise it, but if she is going to spend that capital — even quietly — in the Arizona world, she has to act on it (and I wouldn’t have committed to a dime unless she shook my hand and told me once she had the money she would fire Brennan shortly thereafter).

[Chicat]

Fire him and take the sting now. You surely won’t be making any money with 8500 people in the stands watching a 4 win team next year and the year after that.

This is the entire thing to me.

“Fairweather fans!”
“Tucson won’t get behind the team!”
“There’s no NIL funds!!!”

My dude, what you are asking for is that the UofA community throw good money at bad results and that they spend their time and energy watching us get buttfucked at home by an ASU team supposedly under NCAA sanctions.

You want the city and the alums to get behind the team? Don’t keep this guy and watch him struggle to win 5 games the next two seasons. Show that the goal is to win now. Not to resurrect Tomey/Poly Feel Good Vibes but to compete for a BigXII championship ASAP.

Otherwise what the fuck are we doing here? If the answer is that we should give up and throw every spare dollar we have at the basketball program then I guess we’ll keep Brennan forever and maybe every once in a while make a lower tier bowl but we better be getting to fucking Final Fours.