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Not sure there will be much of a battle since Anu is the overwhelming favorite, but Coach Rod has declared an open competition so we might as well have a place to discuss the race.

Scott Terrell, who runs Wildcat Universe and posts at AFO, puts out one of the first articles related to the QB competition.
It was a disappointing end to Solomon’s excellent freshman season. The question now is whether or not he will still be Rich Rodriguez’s quarterback in 2015.

Spring ball will be the first extended look at Brandon Dawkins, a heralded quarterback recruit who redshirted in 2014. Dawkins has some running ability, having rushed for almost 1,400 yards as a three-year starter in high school. Solomon, in comparison, ran for just 200 yards as a senior, so his minimal output on the ground isn’t new and probably isn’t going to change.

You also can’t count out Jerrard Randall, who served as the UA’s third-string quarterback this season. The transfer from LSU checks all the boxes on the RichRod prototype QB blueprint and will be entering his second year in the program. Can he display a level of passing accuracy that he hasn’t shown in his limited playing time thus far?
and the longest shot,
And will there be any other names in the mix? We know Rodriguez and his staff won’t stop trying to land top-shelf talent, both out of high school and as transfers. Ohio State, for example, can’t start all three of its star-caliber QBs next year.
Lots of options out there, but even before Rey's official odds come out my money is on the returning QB who set records this year for passing yards in a game, the PAC 12 Freshman passing record for a season, and tied the Arizona record for passing TDs in a season.

Randall's running ability and rocket arm will always be intriguing, but it is hard to believe he will make a big jump in running the offense before his final year. I personally hope they look at Randall for a position change so he gets a chance to see the field in his senior year and we get the ball in the hands of one of the team's most dynamic runners. The only reason I'd like to see him stay at QB is if he is the best option to be the back-up QB.

It is hard to have an opinion on Dawkins without more information. I'm looking forward to seeing how he does in spring ball. If he is a serious challenge to Anu than we are in tremendous shape. They will push each other in the off season and we will have even better QB play next year.

I firmly believe Anu will be the Wildcat QB next year and he will return more consistent and a better prepared leader of the team. He can only reach is best if he is pushed during the off season, so I am also rooting for the competition to push him as hard as possible.
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If Anu isn't the starter in 2015 I'd be very very surprised.
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RR has never had an open competition for QB no matter what he says. He already knows who is QB is going to be, be it Solomon or Dawkins.

Can't imagine Randall in the mix. Could't complete a pass in JC and had more picks than TDs. Unless UA switches to a triple option.
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Not just Anu, but an Anu with a year of experience. I think he wins.
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What kinda message does it send to anu to say that there is an open competition next year
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
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ASUHATER! wrote:What kinda message does it send to anu to say that there is an open competition next year
Well if he is a competitor a very good one. He knows he did not perform well at the end of the year. If he is not a competitor, he should not be on the team.
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ASUHATER! wrote:What kinda message does it send to anu to say that there is an open competition next year
"Get Better"
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Unless a highly rated transfer comes in, I will assume Solomon the QB. It's going to be tough to de-throne him as starting QB. He had a pretty good year for a RS freshman. Arizona school QB records back that up. Not saying he was end all be all. But still, compared to what Arizona fans accustomed to.

Even then, takes time to pick up the system and timing. Rich Rod collects QBs and he'll push the "open competition" line. Whether it really is or not.

He's always said he likes competition at every position. Competition how players improve. Believe that's all coaches philosophy or desired philosophy. Surrounded by other highly skilled / talented players to push each other, have depth.
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ASUHATER! wrote:What kinda message does it send to anu to say that there is an open competition next year
'You're an asshole and we blame YOU for the last two losses...'?

/sarcasm
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"Wipe that silly smile off your face and stop patting opposing players on the helmet who have just sacked you."

I think another message may be that whatever answer Anu gave RR on the sidelines in the FBowl that resulted in RR storming 30 yards down the sideline, was not the answer RR was looking for. I've been a believer in Anu since his senior season of HS, but the stuff I saw in the last couple of games is stuff he is too smart to be doing.
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rickyk wrote:"Wipe that silly smile off your face and stop patting opposing players on the helmet who have just sacked you."
I see comments like this and it seems like a lot of people that are turned off by Anu's demeanor - not me.

You know who does exactly that? Andrew Luck.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12034 ... eld-praise

You know who else did that? Joe Montana.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/01/23/sport ... enity.html

Not saying Anu is either one of those guys, but, when it comes to demeanor, let the defensive players and the OL spit fire. Fire & brimstone don't help you in the clutch. I like my QB's aloof and above the fray. (Not Smoking Jay Cutler aloof, mind you.......)
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Basically everyone already knows the answer to the QB competition question but people for the most part just love coaching sound bites. Rich Rods style and coaching philosophy from a QB perspective has already been laid bare for all to see.

Solomon could have a cast on one leg and relegated to a wheel chair and Rich Rod would still trot him out there on game day. Something’s never change and RR is like all head coaches. They are for the most part sports politicians that tell their constituent fan bases what they want to hear.

Sure, Dawkins and Randall and whoever else is manning a QB clipboard position will get some snaps and receive the usual (they’re all close, no one stands out) competition sound bite nonsense during the spring and leading up to the season opener, but in the end we all already know who it will be and so does Anu and so does RR.

And so does every other high level QB recruit that RR is trying to bring in. That’s why it will remain Solomon and 3 or 4 back-ups that will never see the field over the next few years. Dawkins who may be under the illusion of getting early playing time is going to get the good ole back-up playing time reality check pretty quick.

As long as Anu is healthy, Brandon, and all the other QB’s on the roster will have a permanent front row sideline seat to every ball game. Whether that will sit well with them is an unknown.

RR has hitched his wagon to Anu Solomon for the long haul, that’s very obvious. All the rest of the QB competition misdirection is just noise for the fans to talk about and for sports columnist to write articles on.

Let me be clear, I’m not implying in any way that Anu Solomon shouldn’t be the starter, I expect him to be better over all next year.

But let’s not kid ourselves about any real meaningful playing time for anyone not named Anu Solomon at the QB position.
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Gladiator Cat wrote: But let’s not kid ourselves about any real meaningful playing time for anyone not named Anu Solomon at the QB position.
GC - I agree with your conclusion, but I just don't buy your rationale. Just because Anu ends up being our QB for the next year (or three) doesn't mean there won't be competition.

Anu is the best, most experienced QB on the team. If he wins the position that doesn't mean a competition didn't occur, it just means Anu won the competition.

This staff demands you fight every drill, down, series, practice and day to win your position including at QB. Have you ever seen a full practice? In the spring and early summer every QB (including freshman walk-ons) are getting equal reps in QB drills and almost equal scrimmage time along with the full attention of Coach Rodriguez and Smith and then are scrutinized again during film review of the practice.

Any player (Adam Hall) who doesn't believe this this theory just needs to not compete in practice and they will find themselves replaced by someone who wants to fight for the position.
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ANGCatFan wrote:
Gladiator Cat wrote: But let’s not kid ourselves about any real meaningful playing time for anyone not named Anu Solomon at the QB position.
GC - I agree with your conclusion, but I just don't buy your rationale. Just because Anu ends up being our QB for the next year (or three) doesn't mean there won't be competition.

Anu is the best, most experienced QB on the team. If he wins the position that doesn't mean a competition didn't occur, it just means Anu won the competition.

This staff demands you fight every drill, down, series, practice and day to win your position including at QB. Have you ever seen a full practice? In the spring and early summer every QB (including freshman walk-ons) are getting equal reps in QB drills and almost equal scrimmage time along with the full attention of Coach Rodriguez and Smith and then are scrutinized again during film review of the practice.

Any player (Adam Hall) who doesn't believe this this theory just needs to not compete in practice and they will find themselves replaced by someone who wants to fight for the position.

Ok, if you insist that there will be a real, honest to goodness competition at the QB spot with anyone else really having the possibility of winning the job and starting ahead of Solomon.......................fine, you're welcome to believe whatever you like, its OK. I just think it all completely silly.

If we are talking about any other position other than Anu and Scooby, then you have some merit. I guess folks just need things to talk about and articles need to written to meet that news paper quota.
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There's a competition. Anu is the leader right off the bat by a long shot but this is RRs way of telling his QBs that there's a price for slacking. It's less about an open scramble for the starting spot than it is for the backup spot, and also to send the notice to the #1 guy that if you don't put in the work over the summer, there are three other guys who did.
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GC, you seem to be implying that RR hitches his wagon to a horse and follows him no matter what. Take a look at RR's quarterback history and tell me you still think the same:

Year Name (Class) Rush Yards
2001 Brad Lewis (sr) 41
2002 Rasheed Marshall (so) 666
2003 Rasheed Marshall 303
2004 Rasheed Marshall 684
2005 Pat White (fr) 952
2006 Pat White 1219
2007 Pat White 1335
2008 Steven Threet (fr) 201
2009 Tate Forcier (fr) 240
2010 Denard Robinson (so) 1702
2012 Matt Scott (sr) 506
2013 BJ Denker (sr) 949
2014 Anu Solomon (fr) 291

I think the only times above where you see RR being loyal to the incumbent is when that player shows the ability to run the ball. We can probably both agree that RR would have stuck with Robinson at Michigan had he stayed, so that would make his three multi-year starters Rasheed Marshall, Pat White, and Denard Robinson - each guy a serious threat to run the ball. Historically, Rich Rodriguez has never had a multiple year starter who was not a dual threat QB.

Does that mean your premise about Anu's status is wrong? Of course not, but it does imply that maybe your level of certainty is misplaced, particularly if Dawkins or Randall show familiarity with the scheme along with even the slightest amount of touch in the passing game.

Right about now it's probably fair to note that Rodriguez has never had as prolific a passer as Anu Solomon, so it will be interesting to see how the whole thing plays out. I guarantee you that Rodriguez's comfort zone is having a QB with wheels, though.
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Puerco,

I appreciate the work you undertook in putting together those QB stats from the past. I really do, that is excellent rebuttal material and shows that you are a very knowledgeable fan. I appreciate that.

I guess I've gotten somewhat cenacle in my old age and being associated with Wildcat football for over 40 years. Unfortunately that leads to my primary shortcomings of not sugar coating my thoughts and position on topics of interest. In this case the meaningless discussion of Anu Solomon and the QB competition.

I feel kind of silly even debating this subject because I feel its pretty much cut and dry……as in a led pipe cinch. I’m actually kind of surprised that folks that know Rich Rod from his time at Arizona specifically are even trying to say that any other possibility would or will exist as it relates for Anu for next year.

My position is that Rich Rod already knows that Anu is his pick as the starter, and will be his starter for next year. Anu already knows from private meetings with coaches that he will be the man next year. Everything else is just window dressing and noise.

Even more importantly, both Rich Rod and Anu Solomon know that there is no inbound QB’s, be it from high school or JC, nor is there anyone already on campus that is going to replace him as the starter. So my main theme was and is that for RR to act as if some big contrived competition next year is going to take place and change the narrative that Anu Solomon is going to be challenged for the starting QB position on its face is utterly ridicules, meaningless and somewhat disingenuous after watching what took place this last season.

There is not now, nor will there be a meaningful, real, no BS QB competition for next year at Arizona other than roster warm bodies playing and acting in a QB competition during team workouts and drills. Rich Rod knows this, Anu knows this and all of the other back-ups including Dawkins knows this.

All the rest is just coach speak and noise for fan consumption.
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I tend to agree with you, GC. Most coaches would never go away from a proven, effective QB. But I've still got this little itch that tells me RR wants someone with wheels. I, for one, am going to be following spring ball really closely.
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Gladiator Cat wrote:Puerco,

I appreciate the work you undertook in putting together those QB stats from the past. I really do, that is excellent rebuttal material and shows that you are a very knowledgeable fan. I appreciate that.

I guess I've gotten somewhat cenacle in my old age and being associated with Wildcat football for over 40 years. Unfortunately that leads to my primary shortcomings of not sugar coating my thoughts and position on topics of interest. In this case the meaningless discussion of Anu Solomon and the QB competition.

I feel kind of silly even debating this subject because I feel its pretty much cut and dry……as in a led pipe cinch. I’m actually kind of surprised that folks that know Rich Rod from his time at Arizona specifically are even trying to say that any other possibility would or will exist as it relates for Anu for next year.

My position is that Rich Rod already knows that Anu is his pick as the starter, and will be his starter for next year. Anu already knows from private meetings with coaches that he will be the man next year. Everything else is just window dressing and noise.
Even more importantly, both Rich Rod and Anu Solomon know that there is no inbound QB’s, be it from high school or JC, nor is there anyone already on campus that is going to replace him as the starter. So my main theme was and is that for RR to act as if some big contrived competition next year is going to take place and change the narrative that Anu Solomon is going to be challenged for the starting QB position on its face is utterly ridicules, meaningless and somewhat disingenuous after watching what took place this last season.

There is not now, nor will there be a meaningful, real, no BS QB competition for next year at Arizona other than roster warm bodies playing and acting in a QB competition during team workouts and drills. Rich Rod knows this, Anu knows this and all of the other back-ups including Dawkins knows this.

All the rest is just coach speak and noise for fan consumption.
I agree with pretty much everything but the bold. The staff has let it be known that they want a competition for the starting QB spot and whether its real or not is certainly up for debate. What's not up for debate is that the staff wants Anu to get better. Does that happen on it's own? Meaning, does Anu work his ass of to get better regardless of whether or not there's serious competition for the job? That's the debate in my mind as I think Anu will work his ass off to get better. I don't think Anu will lose his job but I do think the staff wants to make sure that Anu feels the heat to get better.

It also helps in regards to both Dawkins and Randall as the same is true for them as it is for Anu. They have to believe that they have a legitimate shot at the job if they're going to bust ass to improve. I don't see it happening but what RR is doing is the absolute right thing for the program and the players involved. There's a good chance that the back-up will play TY and if I'm Dawkins and or Randall it might be my shot to shine. I know it's a different level but look at Lindley for the Cards? He had his shot to shine and he couldn't get it done - I understand there's lots of factors that go into being a starting QB but the point remains the same. He might not ever get another chance like that again.

Is it going to be a legit competition? Yes, in the sense that if Anu doesn't work hard to improve his game then he can and will lose his job. Does Dawkins have a legit shot at winning the QB job? Yes and no. Yes, if Anu doesn't work hard and no if Anu works hard and improves his game. Dawkins would literally have to set the world on fire and Anu would have to stay the same and keep making the same mistakes as LY before he would lose the job imho. All you're going to hear through now and the spring is how good Dawkins looks and I hope he looks great as that should only make Anu work harder.
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A lot of Anu's p*ss-poor demeanor and judgment in the Fiesta Bowl goes back to the lack of competition for his position since July.

We saw what Scroggins and Randall could do against Oregon. 'tweren't much. Hard to believe they ever outperformed Anu a day after Ft. Huachuca with some of the mistakes they were making.

Connor Brewer was the biggest disappointment IMHO. I know RR likes to stockpile bodies at the skill positions, but how is Brewer going to earn his schollie for the next two seasons?
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What piss poor demeanor? Do I have to re-watch the game? Because I missed it the first time around.
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When he says piss poor demeanor I think he is reflecting the sentiment I expressed when I said wipe that silly grin off your face and stop patting guys on the helmet who have just sacked you. Some disagree with me on this citing Montana and Luck. Me, I guess I'm more old school, in that one of the best leaders I ever witnessed was Joe Kapp and his demeanor. I remember reading about a game I saw when I was living in Minneapolis when the Vikes were getting beat about 35-0, and Kapp was throwing off his tacklers arms and jawing at the guys who sacked him and, when asked, they reported that he was cursing at them telling them, "we're going to kick your f---ing asses." In contemporary times, I can't even recall ever seeing Anu's idol and roll model, MM, ever exhibiting the demeanor Solomon does. I guess if we were winning a game 35-0, I would be less bothered by Solomon's grin or congratulating an opponent sacking him by patting him on the shoulder.

Everybody who says we're going to have a competition but it's not really a competition should go back and look at the tape of the last two games. It's not just wheels, RichRod's number one NoNo is decision making and protecting the football. Anu did not do well in that regard in the last two games. If Dawkins can get a handle on his decision making and reads--admittedly a big If--I think he could start. Physically, he is much better suited for this offense than Anu but the decision making will be key. I'm not sure he can do it, based on his own statements on scout while he was being recruited and mentioned that getting the offense down was difficult for him.
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rickyk wrote:In contemporary times, I can't even recall ever seeing Anu's idol and roll model, MM, ever exhibiting the demeanor Solomon does.
There's over 25,000 Google hits on "Mariota vocal leadership", all of them saying it's something that he's been seen as lacking and working on - Mariota's natural personality seems very similar to Anu's.

I think a QB (particularly in this system) has to be vocal enough to get people in the positions they need to be in and to be the "coach on the field" in terms of making sure guys are executing properly - but I don't think that means they have to be fiery or rah-rah. Anu might very well need to work on that aspect, I don't know. But with QB's and kickers, I would rather they be steely assassins rather than crazed berzerkers. Emotion helps defenses and offensive lines, clear thinking and precision helps offenses.

As for the competition, I think Dawkins has a shot, I don't think RR is blowing smoke - but DC's and ANG's summarization pretty much nails it. Dawkins will have to be clearly, significantly better than Anu in camp. Rolling the dice on the unknown when you have a proven commodity is a huge risk.
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I'd hope Randall would continue working on his throwing. A guy with his wheels doesn't have to improve greatly when it comes to throwing, but damn, if he can be serviceable in that aspect, then he'd be a great surprise to throw out from time to time - and not have to have him run on his first play as everybody expects. Short throw. Play-action, give it to RB. THEN keep it on 3rd play, depending on down. Would love that here n there.

Obviously, I don't think he will or can be the starter.

When it comes to Anu, fully expect him to work on everything like every QB. But sure would like to see him work on his overall speed, quickness.. not just in running, but overall movements, throwing, getting the ball out faster, faster first step, etc. After so many games with Anu at the helm, to see Scroggins go in during the Pac title game and play as fast overall as he did, was refreshing to see, but disappointing in that Scroggins just isn't very good. So Anu.. MOVE! QUICKER! Might be the difference in certain situations..
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Thrillhouse: There's over 25,000 Google hits on "Mariota vocal leadership", all of them saying it's something that he's been seen as lacking and working on - Mariota's natural personality seems very similar to Anu's.

My point was I have never seen MM tap an opposing player on the helmet who has just stoned him on a sack nor have I ever seen him making a poor decision or throw and then exhibiting that sickly grin. Nor have I seen him sitting off by himself on the bench wrapped up in his own little world. I've seen Marcus encouraging team mates and being up there on the front line helping injured defensive guys off the field. In short, acting like he cares and is invested and fully engaged. I think Anu may be playing the Chill stuff out just a tad too much.
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Watching Greg Hansen's video report on the Fiesta Bowl it seems like he is pretty strongly suggesting Dawkins in 2015.

http://tucson.com/sports/college/wildca ... ba527.html
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rickyk wrote:Watching Greg Hansen's video report on the Fiesta Bowl it seems like he is pretty strongly suggesting Dawkins in 2015.

http://tucson.com/sports/college/wildca ... ba527.html

So Anu it is then. :lol:
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I like the calm, lead by example, etc and whatnot. But I'm watching Patriots-Ravens right now and I can't help but love the way Tom Brady plays. I hated him and the Patriots for years but I've slowly come around to liking him, his work ethic, the way he demands excellence (and not like Kobe), and that wild fire that he plays with. I'm ok with Anu being calm, Luck/Montana/Mariota like, but I'd love to see him show some fire. And start hating your opponents instead of being friendly. But I'm a little old school I suppose.
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prh wrote:I like the calm, lead by example, etc and whatnot. But I'm watching Patriots-Ravens right now and I can't help but love the way Tom Brady plays. I hated him and the Patriots for years but I've slowly come around to liking him, his work ethic, the way he demands excellence (and not like Kobe), and that wild fire that he plays with. I'm ok with Anu being calm, Luck/Montana/Mariota like, but I'd love to see him show some fire. And start hating your opponents instead of being friendly. But I'm a little old school I suppose.
Calm Flacco is kicking ass.
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Never seen Dawkins before so today I looked for video. I like his size and he seems to have a strong arm. His delivery looks a little long and loopy. College d backs will key on that I believe.

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His delivery reminds me of Cam Newton.
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UALoco wrote:
prh wrote:I like the calm, lead by example, etc and whatnot. But I'm watching Patriots-Ravens right now and I can't help but love the way Tom Brady plays. I hated him and the Patriots for years but I've slowly come around to liking him, his work ethic, the way he demands excellence (and not like Kobe), and that wild fire that he plays with. I'm ok with Anu being calm, Luck/Montana/Mariota like, but I'd love to see him show some fire. And start hating your opponents instead of being friendly. But I'm a little old school I suppose.
Calm Flacco is kicking ass.
And Brady won :lol: But yes Flacco was playing really well for awhile.
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One less in the mix - Brewer is transferring, destination unknown as of yet. Hope he lands somewhere where he can play a lot; he worked for his shot but it just wasn't going to happen here.
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azpenguin wrote:One less in the mix - Brewer is transferring, destination unknown as of yet. Hope he lands somewhere where he can play a lot; he worked for his shot but it just wasn't going to happen here.
No surprise. Props to CB for getting his degree!
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azpenguin wrote:One less in the mix - Brewer is transferring, destination unknown as of yet. Hope he lands somewhere where he can play a lot; he worked for his shot but it just wasn't going to happen here.
Is his sister staying at least?

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Best of luck cb, he should have never come here as everyone knew he was never going to get a fair shot.
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gronk4heisman wrote:Best of luck cb, he should have never come here as everyone knew he was never going to get a fair shot.
Are you saying that he never should have came here because he was never going to beat the other QB's and he wasn't a good fit for RR's offense? If you are then you're correct. If you're saying that he didn't get the chance to win the starting job then you would be wrong.

There were many a night during Fall camp that he repped with the first team offense. He had the chance to win the job but he lacked the arm strength and the wheels needed to win the job. I would also add that the above isn't my opinion as much as it's common knowledge among those who attended every practice during Fall Camp. He had the weakest arm of all the QB's out there and then add that he didn't have the mobility of the other Qb's. That's why he didn't win the job. Great kid and a smart QB and he should do well wherever he ends up.
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azgreg wrote:Never seen Dawkins before so today I looked for video. I like his size and he seems to have a strong arm. His delivery looks a little long and loopy. College d backs will key on that I believe.

Looks like a Maty Mauk clone in the way he throws the ball.

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Coaches said a couple of weeks back that they like Dawkins an that he's coming along, but they have to work on some things still. They particularly mentioned that he has to get the ball out faster. I like the idea of having a second groomed QB behind Solomon, because Randall will only be here one more year and we know what RR can do with QBs if he has time.

One more note - a lot of people mention that they wish RR wouldn't stock up on so many QBs and use those scholies for other positions. 2013 shows why he's collecting them. Had Denker gone down... Now the bench is reasonably deep but if someone gets hurt in camp, then it's just a QB and the backup for the year. Also remember how deep the team was supposed to be in 2013 at WR and then injuries and transfers suddenly left the team thin. It doesn't take long before you're thin at skill positions. RR found himself in that position in his first year at UM and that didn't go well.
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Not sure of any UA QB who did more with less than BJ Denker. Not a single college scholarship offer out of HS, and ends up starting for a PAC-12 team that ended up in a bowl game, along with winning the Swiss national championship!
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Merkin wrote:Not sure of any UA QB who did more with less than BJ Denker. Not a single college scholarship offer out of HS, and ends up starting for a PAC-12 team that ended up in a bowl game, along with winning the Swiss national championship!
How many Swiss championships does Tebow have? :D
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UAEebs86 wrote:Brewer back to Texas - WTF?

http://www.sports360az.com/2015/01/conn ... longhorns/
Should not go to any program in a Power 6 conference unless he's guaranteed playing time. Texas had an ok quarterback last year and he was young and I doubt he'd return and get playing time there. He should go to a school like Northern Arizona.
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On Dawkins the coaches love his physical tools big arm is fast and willing to run, but he needs to grasp the playbook better. Anu shouldn't lose the job and should improve a lot. Freshman to sophomore jump is huge especially with RS Freshman QB's.
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catinfl wrote:On Dawkins the coaches love his physical tools big arm is fast and willing to run, but he needs to grasp the playbook better. Anu shouldn't lose the job and should improve a lot. Freshman to sophomore jump is huge especially with RS Freshman QB's.
Sounds like Randall, no?
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Puerco wrote:
catinfl wrote:On Dawkins the coaches love his physical tools big arm is fast and willing to run, but he needs to grasp the playbook better. Anu shouldn't lose the job and should improve a lot. Freshman to sophomore jump is huge especially with RS Freshman QB's.
Sounds like Randall, no?
Dawkins is more accurate and can complete passes rather than throwing it 90 MPH as far as possible
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Thanks.
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Conner Brewer transferring to NAU.
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UAEebs86 wrote:Conner Brewer transferring to NAU.

Hopefully he plays v. UA September 19th. Always wanted to see what he could do being such a highly regarded recruit out of HS.
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