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Jordan Kunaszyk of Cal.azcat49 wrote:second week in a row he is your PAC 12 offensive player of the week. Not sure who won on defense
Man so awesome!azcat49 wrote:second week in a row he is your PAC 12 offensive player of the week. Not sure who won on defense
I want to say he looks like Michael Vick, but Tate has already outrushed Vick's best season.MrBug708 wrote:Tate looks a lot like Tommy Frazier out there.
I don't think Vick was as fast, but Tate doesn't have nearly the arm eitherChicat wrote:I want to say he looks like Michael Vick, but Tate has already outrushed Vick's best season.MrBug708 wrote:Tate looks a lot like Tommy Frazier out there.
We need to be in the top 25 first. KT continues this awesomeness at Cal then at home for the Cougs were in the top 25 heading into SC. I think espn will give us serious consideration for game day if this goes according to plan. The Heisman talk will be in full force, you will have Darnold & KT going at it at during prime time.Puerco wrote:I'm waiting to read Tate's name in Heisman discussions. Another game or two at the level of the last couple and I bet we see it.
I agree, but I think it will take a couple of more games at this level to get a sniff of the list.Puerco wrote:Sorry, I don't mean to imply he'll get it, but just to get a mention would be impressive all things considered, doncha think?
Just keep winning.azgreg wrote:I agree, but I think it will take a couple of more games at this level to get a sniff of the list.Puerco wrote:Sorry, I don't mean to imply he'll get it, but just to get a mention would be impressive all things considered, doncha think?
Tate can make all the throws so I'm not sure having a Vick like arm is required. Randall when he was here could throw the ball 75 yards in the air - yet being able to do that never came into play during a game. Difference between Tate and Vick is Tate has great touch and every throw isn't a 98 mph fastball. His two deep balls on Saturday being case in point - both were perfectly thrown balls.MrBug708 wrote:I don't think Vick was as fast, but Tate doesn't have nearly the arm eitherChicat wrote:I want to say he looks like Michael Vick, but Tate has already outrushed Vick's best season.MrBug708 wrote:Tate looks a lot like Tommy Frazier out there.
RR's issue has never been producing when he has the horses. His issue has been getting the horses. If he can turn that around, again, his actual coaching is always good. He needs a strong Dc, but has won even without a ton of D.splitsecond wrote:Our struggles in recruiting and defense have kind of made us forget that RichRod is one of the greatest offensive minds the game has ever seen when he has his guys who can actually put his plans into motion.
You and I both know that if you don't start on these lists pre season it's tough to get on them. If he keeps up his production for a few more games he'll get there.Chicat wrote:I’ve been wracking my brain trying to come up with a better two games and I’m failing miserably.
One more impressive performance and he should absolutely be top-10 for Heisman consideration.
Honestly, and I know I’m asking a lot, but if he goes 150+/200+ at Cal I’m not sure how you keep him off those lists. 1/4 of the season ain’t nothing.azgreg wrote:You and I both know that if you don't start on these lists pre season it's tough to get on them. If he keeps up his production for a few more games he'll get there.Chicat wrote:I’ve been wracking my brain trying to come up with a better two games and I’m failing miserably.
One more impressive performance and he should absolutely be top-10 for Heisman consideration.
People keep saying this. He's not running into the teeth of the DL for no gain 10X a game. Most of the time, he's getting pushed out/run out on the sideline. Or he's tackled from the side/behind in the open field in the 2nd level. Unless I'm forgetting, he hasn't been sacked yet. Yeah, slide, that's always smart for a QB. But it's not like he's looking to truck people...ASUHATER! wrote:Just hope he can stay healthy since he doesn't shy from contact and isn't really big and built to take hits.
Kadeem Carey was all-world his Sophomore year, and he barely got a sniff. He didn't even get an invitation to NY, despite being one of the top RB's statistically. I'd be happy if he got an invite to NYC.Chicat wrote:Honestly, and I know I’m asking a lot, but if he goes 150+/200+ at Cal I’m not sure how you keep him off those lists. 1/4 of the season ain’t nothing.azgreg wrote:You and I both know that if you don't start on these lists pre season it's tough to get on them. If he keeps up his production for a few more games he'll get there.Chicat wrote:I’ve been wracking my brain trying to come up with a better two games and I’m failing miserably.
One more impressive performance and he should absolutely be top-10 for Heisman consideration.
Against FUCLA he trucked a couple of guys and did the ol' jump over the guy trick. He's gotta stop doing that.qwertyus wrote:People keep saying this. He's not running into the teeth of the DL for no gain 10X a game. Most of the time, he's getting pushed out/run out on the sideline. Or he's tackled from the side/behind in the open field in the 2nd level. Unless I'm forgetting, he hasn't been sacked yet. Yeah, slide, that's always smart for a QB. But it's not like he's looking to truck people...ASUHATER! wrote:Just hope he can stay healthy since he doesn't shy from contact and isn't really big and built to take hits.
If you say so. I don't recall, but I could certainly be wrong. Getting hit shortens careers and obviously increases injury risk, so we're in agreement about him needing to slide/be careful. Much better to just take the safe play instead of padding stats and getting hurt!azgreg wrote:Against FUCLA he trucked a couple of guys and did the ol' jump over the guy trick. He's gotta stop doing that.qwertyus wrote:People keep saying this. He's not running into the teeth of the DL for no gain 10X a game. Most of the time, he's getting pushed out/run out on the sideline. Or he's tackled from the side/behind in the open field in the 2nd level. Unless I'm forgetting, he hasn't been sacked yet. Yeah, slide, that's always smart for a QB. But it's not like he's looking to truck people...ASUHATER! wrote:Just hope he can stay healthy since he doesn't shy from contact and isn't really big and built to take hits.
I've yet to see him shy away from contact in any form. He drops his shoulder and engages the hit every time. And Greg's right, he made a big leaping hurdle over a couple of defenders on the sideline when he should've just stepped out at that point. I love it, but it's terrifying.qwertyus wrote:If you say so. I don't recall, but I could certainly be wrong. Getting hit shortens careers and obviously increases injury risk, so we're in agreement about him needing to slide/be careful. Much better to just take the safe play instead of padding stats and getting hurt!azgreg wrote:Against FUCLA he trucked a couple of guys and did the ol' jump over the guy trick. He's gotta stop doing that.qwertyus wrote:People keep saying this. He's not running into the teeth of the DL for no gain 10X a game. Most of the time, he's getting pushed out/run out on the sideline. Or he's tackled from the side/behind in the open field in the 2nd level. Unless I'm forgetting, he hasn't been sacked yet. Yeah, slide, that's always smart for a QB. But it's not like he's looking to truck people...ASUHATER! wrote:Just hope he can stay healthy since he doesn't shy from contact and isn't really big and built to take hits.
Bryce Young is on pace for like 2800 yards and everyone has anointed Barkley as the Heisman winner. You basically need to be playing for championships to have a shotChicat wrote:Honestly, and I know I’m asking a lot, but if he goes 150+/200+ at Cal I’m not sure how you keep him off those lists. 1/4 of the season ain’t nothing.azgreg wrote:You and I both know that if you don't start on these lists pre season it's tough to get on them. If he keeps up his production for a few more games he'll get there.Chicat wrote:I’ve been wracking my brain trying to come up with a better two games and I’m failing miserably.
One more impressive performance and he should absolutely be top-10 for Heisman consideration.
I watched the "Football in 60" replay, just the offensive snaps, and yes, KT needs to start sliding more. Multiple times initiated contact, including a pretty cool, dangerous, hit stick on a DB.BearDown89 wrote:I've yet to see him shy away from contact in any form. He drops his shoulder and engages the hit every time. And Greg's right, he made a big leaping hurdle over a couple of defenders on the sideline when he should've just stepped out at that point. I love it, but it's terrifying.qwertyus wrote:If you say so. I don't recall, but I could certainly be wrong. Getting hit shortens careers and obviously increases injury risk, so we're in agreement about him needing to slide/be careful. Much better to just take the safe play instead of padding stats and getting hurt!azgreg wrote:Against FUCLA he trucked a couple of guys and did the ol' jump over the guy trick. He's gotta stop doing that.qwertyus wrote:People keep saying this. He's not running into the teeth of the DL for no gain 10X a game. Most of the time, he's getting pushed out/run out on the sideline. Or he's tackled from the side/behind in the open field in the 2nd level. Unless I'm forgetting, he hasn't been sacked yet. Yeah, slide, that's always smart for a QB. But it's not like he's looking to truck people...ASUHATER! wrote:Just hope he can stay healthy since he doesn't shy from contact and isn't really big and built to take hits.
I feel like our karma is on the upswing though. A dynamic QB is emerging before our eyes, we don't have players dropping like flies every other play - hell, even Nick is running strong and the defense is improving no question. Pressure, sacks and a bunch of young players who look like they want to play. And Tight Ends!
I was gonna say K14ramcat wrote:K TRAIN
Oh, as far as nicknames go. . . if he keeps doing the stuff he has been doing . . . maybe we should call him "King T'Challa". . .The Heisman Trophy race continues to evolve, with tailbacks Saquon Barkley (Penn State) and Bryce Love (Stanford) the most discussed candidates. Barkley has versatility and a starring role on a national title contender in his favor; Love is the featured back of a team eager to run over as many opponents as it can. Oklahoma’s Baker Mayfield and Oklahoma State’s Mason Rudolph remain in the conversation, too.
But the best player in the country this month? That’s simultaneously both easy and unexpected.
Arizona quarterback Khalil Tate is 20 of 25 passing for 290 yards and two touchdowns over the past two weekends, some exceptionally efficient work. Yet it appears modest compared to his silly rushing numbers: 29 carries for 557 yards and six touchdowns.
That’s a Tecmo Bo-like 19.2 yards per carry in October for the sophomore, who has led Arizona (4-2, 2-1 Pac-12) to victories over Colorado and UCLA. His role became prominent only after starter Brandon Dawkins was injured on the opening drive two weeks ago.
Needless to say, it’s prompted the question of where Tate has been all year. A bit banged up, for starters, though he came off the bench in two games in September.
“When he got his opportunity, he made the most of it,” Coach Rich Rodriguez told reporters this week as Arizona prepared to visit California on Saturday. “He is actually playing better than we anticipated that he would, particularly running-wise.”
You think?
The upshot of Tate’s star turn is that Rodriguez has gone from a popular target for hot-seat chatter (the Wildcats regressed from 10-4 to 7-6 to 3-9 over the last three seasons) to coaching the team perhaps best equipped to wrest the Pac-12 South away from Southern California.
He got hit really hard after the whistle blew on the play when he was down and the ball came out. There was a late hit called, but he got nicked up and it showed. Let's hope he can shake it before next week.ASUHATER! wrote:He looked real gimpy late in the game