Arizona @ USC Discussion

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:59 am

Darnold actually ran some read option against ASSU and ran it effectively. No doubt we are going to have to buckle in for his one

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:02 am

Do they sell beer for USC games? Or is that only Rams.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:09 am

USC did until about 10 years ago.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:22 am

When did Sark join the staff?

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:02 am

CalStateTempe wrote:When did Sark join the staff?

01-03, 05-08, 14-15

Might have left in 08 because he couldn't enjoy any sweet nectar in the press box.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:19 am

Chances are we lose. I mean, USC is at home, has a lot of NFL talent, and needs a win badly. There is no LA Malaise in this game...it is like how, in a bad year, UCLA will lose in Pullman but we will get the 5 star treatment from their underperforming former stars under the lights of a game vs Arizona. We are in position to take what they want...the PAC 12 South and chance to play for the conference title. So we aren't getting "look past" USC.

We certainly can win. They tend to over pursue with their super athletes, and we are nothing if not a cut back/find the hole offense. At our simplest, we just snap to Tate and make holes, and he turns them into paths to the endzone. As WSU found out, you can't stop him and cover if we send 3 or 4 into patterns. If you want to crash the box and keep Tate and JJ to 1 yard per carry, something else is there. And if you go cover that, we are back to Tate running wild. Or you can do like WSU, and break down mentally at the thought...it was like the old 2014 basketball team when you could see when the other team's will broke....WSU broke. Their LBs were in the box, but they were hesitating before filling gaps. They saw two slow TEs run past them for wide open passes already. They saw deep hit after deep hit (a drop and a great cover stopped 3 deep hits early). They couldn't commit to the box any longer. USC will face that. We WILL get opportunities against them.

But they can also do something we cannot defend...they can just pound the ball at us every play. And at that point, it becomes a "score every possession and hope for turnovers" game. Like Colorado. Can we win that? Yeah, of course. But chances are we don't. And that still leaves us way ahead of our best case scenario this year, with the Oregons and ASU left to go and 6 wins in the can. 7-5 this year was everyone's stretch. Did anyone say 8-4? Really? I mean, people who don't just hate the staff saw we were effective, even with Dawkins, when we had our RBs and OL, and the D was better. We were more the team vs Washington that lost so many players we were converting WRs to RB and trying 17 year old QBs out of redshirt due to injury, and had like 2 DL and 3 OL who could stand without assistance. That team fell apart to 3-9, but with their full roster, or a reasonable facsimile, we were competing with UW into overtime. We were a 6-6 type team healthy. Now, with Tate, we might be more...

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:23 am

btfd16 wrote:Do they sell beer for USC games? Or is that only Rams.

No beer sold in stadium for USC games

http://hideyourbooze.com/" target="_blank

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:44 pm

This game will be a blow out.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:16 pm

chiefzona wrote:This game will be a blow out.

Not sure what that means.

Not for nothing..
Arizona 35
USC 24

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:18 pm

UofAlum05 wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Do they sell beer for USC games? Or is that only Rams.
No beer sold in stadium for USC games

http://hideyourbooze.com/" target="_blank

Just put your white, clear liquor(i.e. vodka, rum) in a water bottle. Simple. No reason to go through any pains.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:25 pm

If USC ends up the day running 100 plays like WSU did it will not bode well for the Wildcats. We need to run the ball effectively, and keep their play total to 75-80. I think their size is going to be a problem for us. This team is playing with a chip on it's shoulder so maybe that'll get them through to a win, but i don't think so this time.

It would be nice to have Nick Wilson back for this one. Guess we'll know for sure Thursday

34-31 USC

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:35 pm

chiefzona wrote:This game will be a blow out.

As usual you are being coy but I will bite, who wins it

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:51 pm

UALoco wrote:
UofAlum05 wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Do they sell beer for USC games? Or is that only Rams.
No beer sold in stadium for USC games

http://hideyourbooze.com/" target="_blank
Just put your white, clear liquor(i.e. vodka, rum) in a water bottle. Simple. No reason to go through any pains.

You can't bring an open water bottle into a stadium.... Day one stuff haha

For McKale, I'd flatten a water bottle, fill it up and waistband it. Still got about 8 ounces.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:52 pm

UALoco wrote:
UofAlum05 wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Do they sell beer for USC games? Or is that only Rams.
No beer sold in stadium for USC games

http://hideyourbooze.com/" target="_blank
Just put your white, clear liquor(i.e. vodka, rum) in a water bottle. Simple. No reason to go through any pains.

you can only bring in sealed bottles... though i knew kids in college that would use syringes to draw out water and replace it with vodka in water bottle lids

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:57 pm

btfd16 wrote:
UALoco wrote:
UofAlum05 wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Do they sell beer for USC games? Or is that only Rams.
No beer sold in stadium for USC games

http://hideyourbooze.com/" target="_blank
Just put your white, clear liquor(i.e. vodka, rum) in a water bottle. Simple. No reason to go through any pains.
You can't bring an open water bottle into a stadium.... Day one stuff haha

For McKale, I'd flatten a water bottle, fill it up and waistband it. Still got about 8 ounces.

It is really hard to spot an open bottle unless you look real close. They don't. It's worked for me the last 20 or so times at multiple venues.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:59 pm

UALoco wrote:
UofAlum05 wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Do they sell beer for USC games? Or is that only Rams.
No beer sold in stadium for USC games

http://hideyourbooze.com/" target="_blank
Just put your white, clear liquor(i.e. vodka, rum) in a water bottle. Simple. No reason to go through any pains.

A lot of work. Since it's actually getting nippy at night out here, bring the whole fucking bottle and stick it in your coat/jacket.

Buy a large drink add some love and enjoy the beat down we will unleash on these cocksuckers!

Cheers

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:35 pm

BevMo wells all kinds of booze to sneak on planes, much easier to sneak into a stadium. Fits right in your back pocket.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:14 pm

Notre Dame did what they wanted to USC's defense with a mobile quarterback. USC's defense isn't anything special, Tate playing in his hometown against the team that wouldn't take him as a quarterback. This means a lot to Tate and I bet he goes off and it's another shootout. Whoever wins the turnover battle wins and Darnold can be turnover prone.

Arizona 38
USC 30

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:39 pm

Yeah....Darnold and USC both suck. Turnover City. They won’t be able to run or pass against the Cactus Curtain.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:43 pm

Cactus curtain. Hmmmm, I actually like that. I know it was said facetiously but its still pretty good

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:49 pm

chiefzona wrote:Yeah....Darnold and USC both suck. Turnover City. They won’t be able to run or pass against the Cactus Curtain.

You mad bro?

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:51 pm

you forgot a gif machina.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:10 pm

chiefzona wrote:Yeah....Darnold and USC both suck. Turnover City. They won’t be able to run or pass against the Cactus Curtain.

The turnovers part is legit. Darnold is a great talent and doesn't suck, but he averages 2 to's a game. The opportunity is there.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:18 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Yeah....Darnold and USC both suck. Turnover City. They won’t be able to run or pass against the Cactus Curtain.
The turnovers part is legit. Darnold is a great talent and doesn't suck, but he averages 2 to's a game. The opportunity is there.

Exactly. Lots of INT and lost fumbles.

Tackle well and play good fundamental football to minimize the talent difference.

Turn overy Darnold

WR get open as they will likely be one on one a lot and make plays.

Those are Arizona's keys to victory

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:24 pm

In the last 5 games Darnold has 3 picks and 8 fumbles (losing 7 of them them). No reason he can't keep that up.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:44 pm

chiefzona wrote:Yeah....Darnold and USC both suck. Turnover City. They won’t be able to run or pass against the Cactus Curtain.

did i say anything about them sucking? all i said is Darnold is prone to turnovers which he has been this year want to try and argue that? one thing uofa has been good of on defense is timely turnovers. We are second in the nation in interceptions. I think USC will move the ball fairly easily against Arizona like most teams have just depends on if Darnold turns the ball over or not..

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:05 pm

U of A is 49th in defense yards per pass attempt and 38th in defense yards per rush attempt

USC is 50th and 80th in the same categories.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:07 pm

U of A is 2nd in the nation in scoring points per play and the best in the last game and last three games.

USC is 36th.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:12 pm

I believe he's a stating OLB.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:16 pm

Here is what being a UofA fan for far too long has taught me to expect of this upcoming game: disappointment.

Cats just back into national rankings. Big game on the road against a team that has beaten us more often than not, and a team that has done better on the "big stage" more often than not (and certainly more often than we have). A chance to take over 1st place and have a potentially great season.

Therefore, if history is any indicator of what will happen:

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:23 pm

Special players do special things POM. It's coming just wait. Saturday night will be epic

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:24 pm

God damn it POM!

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:31 pm

All that was missing from POM's post was "Penn State 1999 Kickoff Classic."

Dude, don't you have a lawn to tell some kids to get off tonight?

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:14 pm

catgrad97 wrote:All that was missing from POM's post was "Penn State 1999 Kickoff Classic."

Dude, don't you have a lawn to tell some kids to get off tonight?

Who even needs to go back that far?

You can just look at how we performed in the 2014 pac12 championship and the subsequent fiesta bowl.
UA's ready to show up big for the big game!...er...whoops, no we weren't. It's ok though, UA is ready to show up big for the big bowl game!...er...whoops, no we weren't.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:14 pm

azcat49 wrote:Special players do special things POM. It's coming just wait. Saturday night will be epic

That's definitely the hope

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:23 pm

Wasn't last Saturday a big game? Wazzu was nationally ranked and came in with one loss.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:41 am

zonagrad wrote:Wasn't last Saturday a big game? Wazzu was nationally ranked and came in with one loss.

Huge game...but we played at home, and this one is a little different since we have a number of players that are from the area. Plus it's USC

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:01 am

zonagrad wrote:Wasn't last Saturday a big game? Wazzu was nationally ranked and came in with one loss.

Coming up with a big win against a ranked opponent is something UofA has done before. Sustaining success after a big win is something that we've struggled with.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:17 am

Arizona 36
USC 42

TheBlackLodge · Post by **TheBlackLodge** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:20 am

chiefzona wrote:This game will be a blow out.

chiefzona wrote:Arizona 36
USC 42

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:31 am

Either cryptic or hedging. Might need both in the future to show credibility. Remember when he said our center sucked and shouldn't have been offered and/or he should have been moved to guard. Rough month for our friend

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:55 am

TheBlackLodge wrote:
chiefzona wrote:This game will be a blow out.

chiefzona wrote:Arizona 36
USC 42

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:03 am

I'll bite.

Arizona 48
USC 42

Darnold 3 TO's is the difference. Shun with a punt return TD.

Phylek · Post by **Phylek** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:00 pm

A couple weeks ago I wouldn't have believed that the Cats could win this game. But the last couple weeks taste had shown that he can throw and connect on the deep ball. With his running ability, that's scary for a defense. Combine that with Darnold's turnovers this season(hopefully last week's game against ASU isn't indicative of him getting a handle on that) and I think Arizona wins a game similar to the WSU game. Tight for most of the game.

However, I've been a Cats fan for a long time. This leaves me very cautiously optimistic. I've gotten excited many times, only to be forced back down to earth. This game scares me.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:20 pm

azcat49 wrote:Either cryptic or hedging. Might need both in the future to show credibility. Remember when he said our center sucked and shouldn't have been offered and/or he should have been moved to guard. Rough month for our friend

What center? November has been a good month for me, buddy.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:58 pm

Thing I am scared of most is how we have been playing defense on the road.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:02 pm

btfd16 wrote:Thing I am scared of most is how we have been playing defense on the road.

Per play has actually been pretty good. With USC's defense, I do not think U of A will score as quickly as easily. That will help with the defensive stats and perception.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:17 pm

azgreg wrote:
TheBlackLodge wrote:
chiefzona wrote:This game will be a blow out.

chiefzona wrote:Arizona 36
USC 42

Chef is nothing but consistent.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:00 pm

chiefzona wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Either cryptic or hedging. Might need both in the future to show credibility. Remember when he said our center sucked and shouldn't have been offered and/or he should have been moved to guard. Rough month for our friend

What center? November has been a good month for me, buddy.

You don't remember your comments about Nathan Eldridge?
You did get me that it is November and not October anymore.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:07 pm

azcat49 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Either cryptic or hedging. Might need both in the future to show credibility. Remember when he said our center sucked and shouldn't have been offered and/or he should have been moved to guard. Rough month for our friend

What center? November has been a good month for me, buddy.
You don't remember your comments about Nathan Eldridge?
You did get me that it is November and not October anymore.

I took his "what center?" as Chief doubling down that we still don't have a center, just a guard playing center.

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