Arizona Coaching Search

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:23 pm

mofo wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
Maybe that was meant for Scheer’s lover

I just laughed out loud. This dude is a troll.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:31 pm

Mike Sanford, a 6-7 HC with one year of being at the top, doing worse than his predecessor?

The second part of the joke is that Sanford has a coaching dad also named Mike, if he comes to UA they could be:

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:42 pm

I'm curious if Heeke knows his job is literally on the line? With an underwhelming hire, they better win big fast or he is gone. Robbins did not hire Heeke correct? Robbins was after?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:45 pm

Smokescreen mess and four alarm fire.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:45 pm

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:52 pm

Scheer is Tweeting our what I said two days ago. This ain’t chemistry.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:53 pm

btfd16 wrote:I'm curious if Heeke knows his job is literally on the line? With an underwhelming hire, they better win big fast or he is gone. Robbins did not hire Heeke correct? Robbins was after?

I'm curious to know if you know you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Where do you get this idea that Heeke's job is on the line? Seriously. Stop saying that. So fucking stupid.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:57 pm

BearDown89 wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I'm curious if Heeke knows his job is literally on the line? With an underwhelming hire, they better win big fast or he is gone. Robbins did not hire Heeke correct? Robbins was after?
I'm curious to know if you know you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Where do you get this idea that Heeke's job is on the line? Seriously. Stop saying that. So fucking stupid.

If Heeke hires a few of the names floated I will demand him to be replaced

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:57 pm

chiefzona wrote:Scheer is Tweeting our what I said two days ago. This ain’t chemistry.

That the money is difficult to come by for Sumlin and staff? I mean... weve all been saying the for the last week, including him.

Not sure I see your point.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:01 pm

It's an Arizona head football coach search. Time for local media to act self-important for hits and Twitter followers.

Hansen and Scheer have been the worst offenders so far.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:03 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
BearDown89 wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I'm curious if Heeke knows his job is literally on the line? With an underwhelming hire, they better win big fast or he is gone. Robbins did not hire Heeke correct? Robbins was after?
I'm curious to know if you know you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Where do you get this idea that Heeke's job is on the line? Seriously. Stop saying that. So fucking stupid.
If Heeke hires a few of the names floated I will demand him to be replaced

Well then, you should call him right now and make sure he knows not to fuck this up.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:05 pm

catgrad97 wrote:It's an Arizona head football coach search. Time for Scheer to act self-important to pad his Twitter followers.

This is his job. Is he supposed to go silent?

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:17 pm

Well, his buyout is scheduling a home and home with new team or $100k, so that's a positive, Lol!!

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:26 pm

ramcat wrote:Well, his buyout is scheduling a home and home with new team or $100k, so that's a positive, Lol!!

That's the best buyout in fricken history, I love it so much lol.

Either way just hire one of the young guns, go cheap, and let's move on with our lives. Sumlin doesn't need us, we have no leverage, I get it.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:29 pm

I don't claim to have any idea of how this process actually works. To me, however, no news is good news in this situation. Heeke has kept this thing under wraps and us in the dark. At least we're not subject to a parade of public rejections/fails in the national media like Tennessee was last month before they ended up with their no name up and coming coordinator. Hell, even footballscoop hasn't had anything to report on this opening in days. Scheer has a job to do and it requires content and clicks so names are flying. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he's the smoke machine for the AD. The rest of the local media is just limping along with damn near nothing to report.

Other than Neal from Troy nobody has publicly taken themselves out of the running, denied their candidacy or otherwise declined the job.

My money's still on Sumlin...

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:31 pm

Chicat wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:It's an Arizona head football coach search. Time for Scheer to act self-important to pad his Twitter followers.
This is his job. Is he supposed to go silent?

When there's no news to report, yes.

"Don't go to bed just yet"? For what reason?

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:43 pm

BearDown89 wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
BearDown89 wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I'm curious if Heeke knows his job is literally on the line? With an underwhelming hire, they better win big fast or he is gone. Robbins did not hire Heeke correct? Robbins was after?
I'm curious to know if you know you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Where do you get this idea that Heeke's job is on the line? Seriously. Stop saying that. So fucking stupid.
If Heeke hires a few of the names floated I will demand him to be replaced
Well then, you should call him right now and make sure he knows not to fuck this up.

The athletic department is losing money fast. Football is the money maker. A coach is probably given what? At least 3 years to the next coach. You think Heeke survives a bad football hire, dropping attendance (a losing record which isn’t a given) and an inevitable ncaa penalty in basketball? Lol

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:46 pm

ramcat wrote:Well, his buyout is scheduling a home and home with new team or $100k, so that's a positive, Lol!!

I thought you were joking - this is for real?

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:51 pm

catgrad97 wrote:It's an Arizona head football coach search. Time for local media to act self-important for hits and Twitter followers.

Hansen and Scheer have been the worst offenders so far.

Do you understand how business works? These guys work for for-profit companies. They aren't public servants working for non-profits that are supposed to just feed you information anytime you want it.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:01 am

btfd16 wrote: The athletic department is losing money fast. Football is the money maker. A coach is probably given what? At least 3 years to the next coach. You think Heeke survives a bad football hire, dropping attendance (a losing record which isn’t a given) and an inevitable ncaa penalty in basketball? Lol

If Dan Gurrero can survive multiple millennia at UCLA, despite all his awful hires, anyone can make it past three years and one bad hire.

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:10 am

For what it's worth, I am hearing that there is some pressure to get alumni on staff in at least assistant roles. If Nuehisel is making the right promises, that might explain why he is being discussed at all.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:11 am

A neuheisel head coach with alumni staff would be about the worst outcome that could've happened.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:15 am

https://twitter.com/bradcesmat/status/9 ... twterm%5E0" target="_blank

Mentions Sumlin interview in Chicago today, one more in morning.
Sumlin, Sanford and Son, Baldwin and mystery candidate in morning. If Neuheisel is TV personality that was eluded too?
Maybe Lane out of left field?!

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:18 am

ASUHATER! wrote:A neuheisel head coach with alumni staff would be about the worst outcome that could've happened.

Nueheisel is pretty underwhelming. Toxic maybe, but don't underestimate the faction that wants more "Arizona men", it's not just Hansen.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:36 am

TucsonClip wrote:
btfd16 wrote: The athletic department is losing money fast. Football is the money maker. A coach is probably given what? At least 3 years to the next coach. You think Heeke survives a bad football hire, dropping attendance (a losing record which isn’t a given) and an inevitable ncaa penalty in basketball? Lol
If Dan Gurrero can survive multiple millennia at UCLA, despite all his awful hires, anyone can make it past three years and one bad hire.

TucsonClip.. I like you, but come on.... Los Angeles is a little easier to survive than the Dirty T

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:57 am

UofAlum05 wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:It's an Arizona head football coach search. Time for local media to act self-important for hits and Twitter followers.

Hansen and Scheer have been the worst offenders so far.
Do you understand how business works? These guys work for for-profit companies. They aren't public servants working for non-profits that are supposed to just feed you information anytime you want it.

Yeah, Hansen keeps Tweeting out David Fipp and Central Michigan "rumors" because he knows what keeps those hits a-coming.

Do you understand just how lousy an example you wasted all your snark on? Would it be any better if we all agreed to call the Tweet-trawling the clickbait it actually is?

I'm criticizing both those guys because they're trying desperately to sound relevant when they have nothing new to report. I don't give a flying crap about Hansen's love for Dick Tomey's 1991 part-time starter at safety, any more than I do Scheer re-paraphrasing worn-out info.

You want a good follow, Michael Lev's the man right now. Settling us down about Neuheisel and not acting like repeating other people is "breaking news."

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:45 am

So we still don’t have a coach right?

SteveKerrsStroke · Post by **SteveKerrsStroke** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:38 am

As a graduate of UofA and Texas A&M every day that goes by without Sumlin being named head coach here is a miracle in my book.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:42 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
ramcat wrote:Well, his buyout is scheduling a home and home with new team or $100k, so that's a positive, Lol!!
That's the best buyout in fricken history, I love it so much lol.

Agreed. best buyout i've ever heard of.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:48 am

catgrad97 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:It's an Arizona head football coach search. Time for Scheer to act self-important to pad his Twitter followers.
This is his job. Is he supposed to go silent?

When there's no news to report, yes.

"Don't go to bed just yet"? For what reason?

Because of the Sanford news. Was Scheer supposed to just not report it?

If your problem is with that one tweet, how exactly does tweeting something like that “pad his Twitter followers”? Beyond the fact that he’s paid from subscribers to his site, not how many social media followers he has, do you think that tweet suddenly increased his numbers? Did he not follow it up almost immediately with pertinent info?

I understand that this coaching search can be frustrating to follow but that is in no way Scheer’s fault. All he’s done is provide info. If that is enough to ding someone for being “self-important” then maybe Twitter isn’t for you.

catgrad97 wrote:Do you understand just how lousy an example you wasted all your snark on? Would it be any better if we all agreed to call the Tweet-trawling the clickbait it actually is?

I'm criticizing both those guys because they're trying desperately to sound relevant when they have nothing new to report. I don't give a flying crap about Hansen's love for Dick Tomey's 1991 part-time starter at safety, any more than I do Scheer re-paraphrasing worn-out info.

You want a good follow, Michael Lev's the man right now. Settling us down about Neuheisel and not acting like repeating other people is "breaking news."

Sanford was new info. From what I can tell, Scheer broke that news. He told people to stay tuned because he had actual breaking news to share. You’re complaining that Scheer is providing “worn-out info” that was literally brand new and Scheer broke it.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:02 am

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:24 am

Well at least Sanford has west coast ties. However, it is concerning that he took over for a team coming off 12-2 and 11-3 seasons and went 6-7. Don't know if that is connected to a big change over in players or what. Hopefully its not an indicator of his head coaching ability.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:25 am

Twitter is not for anyone who gives a crap about our social discourse. It's a haven for trolls, of whom Scheer comes dangerously close to joining with his snark on a slow news day. Without Twitter, we wouldn't have had Trump. That alone makes it not for me or anyone who ultimately gives a damn about the first amendment.

But ok, knowing the name of another irrelevant smokescreen coaching search candidate who doesn't even rate a press conference, much less win it, makes the platform all worth it.

Chi, you bash Twitter feeds every day on this site. You could have just admitted you were defending Scheer against attack and I would've understood. Following Lev gets you the same info. with more detail and zero attitude.

But nope, instead it's me who can't handle the platform now. Hope you have a better day.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:52 am

Dude, you were complaining that Scheer was self-aggrandizing when in fact he was breaking news. News that is definitely of interest to his followers and subscribers. You are complaining about him doing his job. Scheer is supposed to not report Sanford because he’s afraid someone might deem him a “troll”? And what happens to his subscriber numbers if Sanford actually gets the nod? I’m sure he’ll sleep better at night knowing that at least he didn’t offend anyone....

Yeah, I bash twitter personalities..... when they deserve it. You really think Scheer deserved it in this instance? I mean, really?

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:09 am

Better hurry. "Bruce Arians Says Nick Saban 'Covets' New York Giants Head Coach Job". Imagine if that happened and what the college football coach carousel could be.

Hopefully we name someone by the end of the day.

Go get Sumlin.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:13 am

I most definitely give credit to Scheer for nailing actual candidates for the job. That's much more than I can say for the daily star group sans Lev who won't stop talking about a special teams coach alum who was never interviewed for the job. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.

Alpha chiefdom · Post by **Alpha chiefdom** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:21 am

I've been a big rrod fan from his days at wvu. I defend him and still think he should have had one more year. Not sure if these allegations are true seems like the duke lacrosse case too me but time will tell. I didn't even start following Arizona football until rrod was coach. I'm now close to this team staying up late every weekend from the eastern half of the country streaming games because no direct tv deal with pac 12. I feel close with this team i believe this team was ready for a special run in 2018 and beyond. I'm not too sure now. If sumlin is the new head guy I'll still follow if he's not i still have my mountaineers and wolverines.
Chiefzona i would like to apologize to you. I have said some mean things to you in the past i'm sorry. I would get angry with you because you hated rrod and i like him as a coach. I saw what it was like when my mountaineers were rolling under him. I saw the same thing coming with this team. Rrod was almost there with tate it was going to be exciting. I really do think rrod had a defense next season that would be good enough for a playoff run. So my beef with you is over chief. Chief am i still following the wildcats under sumlin or is it going to bad like I'm hearing?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:31 am

Twitter is all abuzz about Sanford. A small school no name coach who took a winning program and went 6-7. That will not win Tucson.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:36 am

ChooChooCat wrote:I most definitely give credit to Scheer for nailing actual candidates for the job. That's much more than I can say for the daily star group sans Lev who won't stop talking about a special teams coach alum who was never interviewed for the job. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.

Didn't Scheer state Neuheisel? Maybe he's being interviewed this morning but my understanding was that he never interviewed nor was considered.
Is that inaccurate?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:47 am

Being a candidate and interviewing are not necessarily inclusive

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:47 am

Thank God and Jesus. Helfrich signs with Chicago Bears

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:53 am

ramcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:I most definitely give credit to Scheer for nailing actual candidates for the job. That's much more than I can say for the daily star group sans Lev who won't stop talking about a special teams coach alum who was never interviewed for the job. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.
Didn't Scheer state Neuheisel? Maybe he's being interviewed this morning but my understanding was that he never interviewed nor was considered.
Is that inaccurate?

I don’t remember who said Neuheisel but Scheer said definitively it would not be him.

I have no doubt that Neuheisel floated his own name. That mess didn’t come from the AD.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:53 am

PHXCATS wrote:Being a candidate and interviewing are not necessarily inclusive

Not sure you can be considered legit or serious, if no interview takes place, as was mentioned by Lev.
Says his consideration was exaggerated.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:56 am

ramcat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Being a candidate and interviewing are not necessarily inclusive
Not sure you can be considered legit or serious, if no interview takes place, as was mentioned by Lev.
Says his consideration was exaggerated.

I am just saying it is a word play for everyone's benefit.

Rick gets press and maybe a raise at CBS.

Heeke gets the pressure he needs to raise more money

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:59 am

MountainCat wrote:
tgrumpy2 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
Chicat wrote:Hansen wants a young coordinator because they might not already be wise to the “small town sports opinion writer” bullshit he bathes in.
Hey Chi, do people still listen to Hansen? I gave up on him when he was so unprofessional in his feud with Lute way way back.
I don’t.

All the new coach needs to do to get Hansen on his side forever is take him golfing and ask him to tell some stories about Utah high school sports.

Hanson is a weasel and probably cheats at miniature golf.
There I corrected it for you.

Thank you, that does look better.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:59 am

Chicat wrote:
ramcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:I most definitely give credit to Scheer for nailing actual candidates for the job. That's much more than I can say for the daily star group sans Lev who won't stop talking about a special teams coach alum who was never interviewed for the job. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.
Didn't Scheer state Neuheisel? Maybe he's being interviewed this morning but my understanding was that he never interviewed nor was considered.
Is that inaccurate?
I don’t remember who said Neuheisel but Scheer said definitively it would not be him.

I have no doubt that Neuheisel floated his own name. That mess didn’t come from the AD.

Phoenix sports radio, 98.7 said reports of Neuheisel as candidate for position were reported by Jason Scheer in interview on station.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:05 am

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.azdese ... nouncement" target="_blank

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:08 am

Arizona: Sources tell FootballScoop Rick Neuheisel and Neal Brown are no longer candidates for the position.

Western Kentucky: According to Chad Bishop who covers WKU football, WKU athletic director Todd Stewart spoke with Mike Sanford and there is no truth to the report of him as a major candidate at Arizona and that “he is committed to the WKU job and excited about the future.”

Chicago Bears: Adam Hoge tweets that there have been talks between the Bears and former Oregon head coach Mark Helfrich about the offensive coordinator job.

Arizona: Western Kentucky head coach Mike Sanford has emerged as a “major candidate” for Arizona’s head coaching opening, according to Jason Scheer. Scheer adds that while he can’t confirm Sanford has an offer, he does believe he is a finalist for the job and also adds that Kevin Sumlin is still a candidate, but money has likely been the biggest obstacle standing in the way.

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop/" target="_blank

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:12 am

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:19 am

Well seems like another floater given to Scheer for a purpose

Seems like it is now

Sumlin if money can be brought in/raised

Baldwin if not

Les Miles is Charlie Kelly since it has been so quite with him and no sign of him not being considered anymore

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