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Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:08 pm
by Newportcat
TuiTouchdown wrote:
Newportcat wrote:
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Is Khalil Tate now tweeting things to make people think he's changing his mind about AZ then quickly deleting the tweets? Reminds me of Naijiel Hale.

Serious question... Is Tate tweeting stuff out, then deleting?

BTW: Tweets I saw Tate send out then delete were:

"I've talked to my parents"

"U"

"S"
I think twitter could be the worst thing to ever happen to teenagers/college students. Allowing them to post their immediate thoughts for the world to see is like pouring a tank of gasoline on a fire.

I had a U of A intern this summer and I made him make his twitter private, it was just dumb the stuff he posted and didn't realize that the entire planet can read or see it
Feels like these aren't real Tweets from him. Almost like a friend stole his phone and wants him to go to SC. If he was really flipping, he'd flip. His background is still UA and no one seems to think he's flipping.
I really doubt he flips as USC will never let him play QB from what I have been told no matter what Helton is selling him. If it is his friend who stole his phone just further proof that Twitter is awful for kids their age as just messing with his friend is causing all sorts of big drama

Honestly people under 21 should be banned from posting on twitter

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:19 pm
by chiefzona
catinfl wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
catinfl wrote:Competition scares some kids.

Nothing to do with that. Modster has the tools to beat Tate, Dawkins, or Solomon. All about RR's scheme and his advice.
It may not be him personally but we all know that it's usually not just the kid making these decisions.

There's a professional involved in this one. He is being advised. The Zone Read Option and Read Option offense is getting hit hard critique-wise. It usually doesn't get you in the NFL.....it makes you more prone to injuries and ruins some very necessary traits that a QB needs. Modster is being regarded as more of a pocket passer by his advisors. The problem with RRs system is as a QB you have to waste time reading the ends while the play develops quickly....then the play is usually overdeveloped by the time you make your decision. Receivers and QBs get ganked like that. It's frustrating.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:10 am
by UALoco
chiefzona wrote:
There's a professional involved in this one. He is being advised. The Zone Read Option and Read Option offense is getting hit hard critique-wise. It usually doesn't get you in the NFL.....it makes you more prone to injuries and ruins some very necessary traits that a QB needs. Modster is being regarded as more of a pocket passer by his advisors. The problem with RRs system is as a QB you have to waste time reading the ends while the play develops quickly....then the play is usually overdeveloped by the time you make your decision. Receivers and QBs get ganked like that. It's frustrating.
Makes a lot a sense. A pocket passer shouldn't sign-up for this offense.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:02 am
by Merkin
Like BJ Denker alluded too also, you need a lot of brains to run it.

Like Chief said, this offense will not get you into the NFL. Almost every pundit says the QBs get inflated stats being a "system QB".

If I was Modster's parent, I would also be suspect of the amount of injuries UA QBs get.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:02 am
by OSUCat
Merkin wrote:Like BJ Denker alluded too also, you need a lot of brains to run it.

Like Chief said, this offense will not get you into the NFL. Almost every pundit says the QBs get inflated stats being a "system QB".

If I was Modster's parent, I would also be suspect of the amount of injuries UA QBs get.
But you still have Manziel types getting drafted in the first round......

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:12 am
by azpenguin
OSUCat wrote:
Merkin wrote:Like BJ Denker alluded too also, you need a lot of brains to run it.

Like Chief said, this offense will not get you into the NFL. Almost every pundit says the QBs get inflated stats being a "system QB".

If I was Modster's parent, I would also be suspect of the amount of injuries UA QBs get.
But you still have Manziel types getting drafted in the first round......
The Browns only have so many first round picks.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:18 am
by OSUCat
azpenguin wrote:
OSUCat wrote:
Merkin wrote:Like BJ Denker alluded too also, you need a lot of brains to run it.

Like Chief said, this offense will not get you into the NFL. Almost every pundit says the QBs get inflated stats being a "system QB".

If I was Modster's parent, I would also be suspect of the amount of injuries UA QBs get.
But you still have Manziel types getting drafted in the first round......
The Browns only have so many first round picks.
I think you are underestimating the Browns.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:50 am
by azpenguin
OSUCat wrote:
azpenguin wrote:
OSUCat wrote:
Merkin wrote:Like BJ Denker alluded too also, you need a lot of brains to run it.

Like Chief said, this offense will not get you into the NFL. Almost every pundit says the QBs get inflated stats being a "system QB".

If I was Modster's parent, I would also be suspect of the amount of injuries UA QBs get.
But you still have Manziel types getting drafted in the first round......
The Browns only have so many first round picks.
I think you are underestimating the Browns.
That's... that's a statement you don't hear often.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:48 pm
by chiefzona
Kapri Doucet is getting cold feet and might decommit.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:56 pm
by Merkin
chiefzona wrote:Kapri Doucet is getting cold feet and might decommit.

Didn't realize Casteel did any recruiting. Thought he was "exempt"

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:11 pm
by gronk4heisman
Merkin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Kapri Doucet is getting cold feet and might decommit.

Didn't realize Casteel did any recruiting. Thought he was "exempt"
Doucet was one of the few guys who was excited about the 3 3 5. Im confident that when we get our new DC he will feel more comfortable, and even if he doesn't he is not a nearly the loss that Modster was.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:13 pm
by OSUCat
Not shocking. I'm sure other defensive players are checking options until they find out who the coach is.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:20 pm
by Newportcat
I think JUCO guys are great if you get them in the spring or they redshirt a year. Over the years I have seen few JUCO guys make an impact when they arrive in the summer and immediately have to play. Gurrola was an exception but if you ask people who knows college football well, getting the spring practice for a JUCO is huge. I do not think this is a major loss but unlike most of the JUCO recruits under Rich Rod, this guy actually had good stats at his JC.

I would say this just shows how much of a shock the firing was, none of the current players has any idea and I doubt Casteel is actively recruiting guys last week if he thought he was going to get canned.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:43 pm
by chiefzona
Doucet decommitted. I hope another Juco commit doesn't.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:22 pm
by Merkin
chiefzona wrote:Doucet decommitted. I hope another Juco commit doesn't.


Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:51 pm
by CatsbyAZ
gronk4heisman wrote:
Merkin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Kapri Doucet is getting cold feet and might decommit.

Didn't realize Casteel did any recruiting. Thought he was "exempt"
Doucet was one of the few guys who was excited about the 3 3 5. Im confident that when we get our new DC he will feel more comfortable, and even if he doesn't he is not a nearly the loss that Modster was.
I wonder what Casteel told Doucet that excited him about the 3 3 5? Certainly not how awesome it must be to spend half of every defensive snap chasing the back of a WR or RB's jersey? That's pretty much the result of ever using a 3 3 5.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:04 pm
by Merkin
CatsbyAZ wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:
Merkin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Kapri Doucet is getting cold feet and might decommit.

Didn't realize Casteel did any recruiting. Thought he was "exempt"
Doucet was one of the few guys who was excited about the 3 3 5. Im confident that when we get our new DC he will feel more comfortable, and even if he doesn't he is not a nearly the loss that Modster was.
I wonder what Casteel told Doucet that excited him about the 3 3 5? Certainly not how awesome it must be to spend half of every defensive snap chasing the back of a WR or RB's jersey? That's pretty much the result of ever using a 3 3 5.

He made 2 star Scooby into a national defensive player of the year and into the NFL! That's what I would be saying.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:08 pm
by CatsbyAZ
Merkin wrote:
CatsbyAZ wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:
Merkin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Kapri Doucet is getting cold feet and might decommit.

Didn't realize Casteel did any recruiting. Thought he was "exempt"
Doucet was one of the few guys who was excited about the 3 3 5. Im confident that when we get our new DC he will feel more comfortable, and even if he doesn't he is not a nearly the loss that Modster was.
I wonder what Casteel told Doucet that excited him about the 3 3 5? Certainly not how awesome it must be to spend half of every defensive snap chasing the back of a WR or RB's jersey? That's pretty much the result of ever using a 3 3 5.

He made 2 star Scooby into a national defensive player of the year and into the NFL! That's what I would be saying.
More to the point, with Casteel gone, can we please run a defense that most every recruit can get excited about? It's gotta be a pain to find these "few guys who was excited about the 3 3 5."

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:58 pm
by catinfl
I expect RR to move quick here.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:16 pm
by Chicat

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:31 pm
by ASUHATER!
catinfl wrote:I expect RR to move quick here.
Agree. I expect a hire by the end of the week.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:48 pm
by chiefzona
catinfl wrote:I expect RR to move quick here.

He's going to be in San Antonio with a bunch of coaches so odds are yes....quickly.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:08 am
by 3goggles
Have any of the 2016 commits enrolled yet? Mainly Khalil Tate!

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:56 am
by azcat49
Neves and Tate due Monday

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:18 am
by Carcassdragger
I just realized, if Josh Allen is truly an elite recruit, RR would seem to be in a pretty good position to bring him and others into the fold.

Time is of the essence as other schools are surely working hard.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:55 pm
by gronk4heisman
Could someone explain to me why Rich Rod is asking healthy players to grey shirt? First Watson and now Riley, we are well under our allotted 25 scholarships at the moment (I think we currently sit at 16). Is there something I am missing?

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:04 pm
by Chicat
gronk4heisman wrote:Could someone explain to me why Rich Rod is asking healthy players to grey shirt? First Watson and now Riley, we are well under our allotted 25 scholarships at the moment (I think we currently sit at 16). Is there something I am missing?
I think the deal was he felt confident in getting some better guys to sign on last minute.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:37 pm
by Chicat

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:46 pm
by Newportcat
Looks like we are making noise again in Florida has have offered a good amount of players there in the 2016 and 2017 classes recently

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:17 pm
by MrBug708
gronk4heisman wrote:Could someone explain to me why Rich Rod is asking healthy players to grey shirt? First Watson and now Riley, we are well under our allotted 25 scholarships at the moment (I think we currently sit at 16). Is there something I am missing?
Could also be at the 85 scholarship limit

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:41 pm
by azgreg
Chicat wrote:
He has an impressive offer list.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:49 pm
by RazorsEdgeAZ
Seems AZ looking to add another LB from Lackawanna College (same as recent decommit Kapri Doucet)

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:19 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:50 pm
by Harvey Specter
azgreg wrote:
Chicat wrote:
He has an impressive offer list.
He damn sure does... my eyes popped out of my head when I looked at it.

If we really have a shot at that kid he would be a hell of a pickup.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:56 pm
by Harvey Specter
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Seems AZ looking to add another LB from Lackawanna College (same as recent decommit Kapri Doucet)
His offer list (as reflected in 247) is quite underwhelming.

Are we really offering a 6'2", 200 lb JC guy as an LB?

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:00 pm
by Sage&Silver
Harvey Specter wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Chicat wrote:
He has an impressive offer list.
He damn sure does... my eyes popped out of my head when I looked at it.

If we really have a shot at that kid he would be a hell of a pickup.
I guess it is time for the Grand Poobahs of this board to sticky a 2017 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:03 pm
by Harvey Specter
azgreg wrote:
Another very impressive offer list... Would be an excellent addition.

Currently committed to WVU.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:32 pm
by Chicat
Harvey Specter wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Another very impressive offer list... Would be an excellent addition.

Currently committed to WVU.
WVU offered one of our committed kids, so we offered one of theirs.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:00 pm
by chiefzona
It has Tony Gibson written all over it. These kids are not really good. I'm stumped.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:24 pm
by Harvey Specter
Chicat wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Another very impressive offer list... Would be an excellent addition.

Currently committed to WVU.
WVU offered one of our committed kids, so we offered one of theirs.
I have no problem with going after committed kids, and I never have. The deal is not done until it is inked.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:31 pm
by Harvey Specter
chiefzona wrote:It has Tony Gibson written all over it. These kids are not really good. I'm stumped.
I don't understand what you are saying here? Are you implying you think Gibson will be the new DC? I need to know what kerosene I need for my couch if that happens... but I would be stunned.

PS - I am completely underwhelmed by the one JC kid we offered... the others have offer lists that would suggest a lot of smart coaches think they are really good.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:26 am
by azgreg
Sage&Silver wrote:I guess it is time for the Grand Poobahs of this board to sticky a 2017 Recruit/Commitment Thread
You are more than welcome to start one and then a mod can sticky it for you.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:52 am
by azgreg
Tyliek Raynor

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:00 am
by catgrad97
The fact that the program is still leaking '16 recruits is not good on any level.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:06 am
by Merkin

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:13 am
by Harvey Specter
azgreg wrote:Tyliek Raynor
Bummer... Kid had a pretty good offer list. We don't seem to be moving in the right direction... and it's not confined to the defensive side of the ball.

I was disappointed that we did not have more scholies available late into the recruiting period the last couple years. Be careful what you wish for... our play this season did no position is to make a push with more highly rated guys, so I am not very optimistic.

Hopefully there are some pleasant surprises coming our way...

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:05 pm
by Footballjunkie
Hopefully Richrod can get a DC that can Flip or bring some recruits with him. When is this big coaches meeting in San Antonio? Maybe we can figure who the new DC is by who will be there?

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:13 pm
by Merkin
Brad Allis is saying that Sean Riley may decommit too since the staff asked him to grayshirt.


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Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:17 pm
by RazorsEdgeAZ
Expect Sean Riley to decommit. He's been RT'ing bloggers, services that said he wanted to get schools to take more interest in him since it became public about grayshirting couple weeks ago.

Re: 2016 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:25 pm
by chiefzona
The wheels are falling off. Call Jack Furrier's for four new tires. As RBs....JJ and Russel are just fine.