Re: 2018 Arizona Wildcats football team
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:23 pm
Trevor was the one who already said he was gone. The other hasn’t made up his mind yet but he’s a starter on the OL.
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Thanks RR, I stood up for you and truly believed 2018 was your year. Egg on my face and hating the taste of crow. Hope it was worth it!!Gilbertcat wrote:2018: The year that could have been
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/colleg ... man-trophyJake Fromm, QB, Georgia: 10/1
Trace McSorley, QB, Penn State: 14/1
Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin: 14/1
D'Andre Swift, RB, Georgia: 14/1
Bryce Love, RB, Stanford: 15/1
Shea Patterson, QB, Michigan: 16/1
Jarrett Stidham, QB, Auburn: 20/1
Khalil Tate, QB, Arizona: 20/1
Jalen Hurts, QB, Alabama: 22/1
Kelly Bryant, QB, Clemson: 25/1
Sam Ehlinger, QB, Texas: 25/1
Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State: 30/1
Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon: 30/1
Deondre Francois, QB, Florida State: 30/1
Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma: 35/1
Ed Oliver, DT, Houston: 35/1
Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State: 35/1
Nick Fitzgerald, QB, Mississippi State: 35/1
Jake Browning, QB, Washington: 35/1
McKenzie Milton, QB, UCF: 35/1
Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama: 50/1
btfd16 wrote:Not the starter on the OL Chief referred to, but another one. Not worried about that one. By my count we've lost Wood, Griffin, Tharpe and Rutt.
Chill, dude. It's been a week since RR was cut loose. It was six weeks from the time Stoops was cut loose until RR was hired. Names come up and rumors float all over during coaching searches. Don't sweat anything until a hire is announced.btfd16 wrote:This can be disastrous. I am so far off the Heeke train. This has all the makings of a potential shit storm.
DrWildcat wrote:I believe this is Colin's dad. Considering transferring?
Cannot compare the two. Stoops was fired mid seasonazpenguin wrote:Chill, dude. It's been a week since RR was cut loose. It was six weeks from the time Stoops was cut loose until RR was hired. Names come up and rumors float all over during coaching searches. Don't sweat anything until a hire is announced.btfd16 wrote:This can be disastrous. I am so far off the Heeke train. This has all the makings of a potential shit storm.
And RR was hired during the season as well.PHXCATS wrote:Cannot compare the two. Stoops was fired mid seasonazpenguin wrote:Chill, dude. It's been a week since RR was cut loose. It was six weeks from the time Stoops was cut loose until RR was hired. Names come up and rumors float all over during coaching searches. Don't sweat anything until a hire is announced.btfd16 wrote:This can be disastrous. I am so far off the Heeke train. This has all the makings of a potential shit storm.
Shit take remains shit, just in a different thread.UofAlum05 wrote:Lots of people who don't know jack shit are seeing a few people pissed and have decided to join the bandwagon. I can promise 90% of the people upset haven't watched a Navy football game nor understand that the Triple Option is not what he will run here.
I've watched Navy a lot because I follow AAC football. They are so well coached it is disgusting. They do all the right things, the play calling, situational awareness, and decision making is absolutely elite. And no it isn't because they run the Triple Option or a disciplined service academy. They are just crazy well coached team.
I wanted Sumlin but it appears he wasn't convinced he could win here despite us coming up with the money. Arizona isn't a desirable job, just face it. Would you want to coach at a place that has no money and half empty stadiums in the second half? Go to games around the country. Arizona football just sucks compared to other stadiums and places you walk into.
I strongly believe the Ken N is by far the best that we could have done.
UofAlum05 wrote:Lots of people who don't know jack shit are seeing a few people pissed and have decided to join the bandwagon. I can promise 90% of the people upset haven't watched a Navy football game nor understand that the Triple Option is not what he will run here.
I've watched Navy a lot because I follow AAC football. They are so well coached it is disgusting. They do all the right things, the play calling, situational awareness, and decision making is absolutely elite. And no it isn't because they run the Triple Option or a disciplined service academy. They are just crazy well coached team.
I wanted Sumlin but it appears he wasn't convinced he could win here despite us coming up with the money. Arizona isn't a desirable job, just face it. Would you want to coach at a place that has no money and half empty stadiums in the second half? Go to games around the country. Arizona football just sucks compared to other stadiums and places you walk into.
I strongly believe the Ken N is by far the best that we could have done.
That means that we won a bowl game.Gilbertcat wrote:LV Bowl Champs 2018 whoooot
Arizona faces BYU, Houston, Souther Utah, and Oregon State. It is very realistic to start 4-0. Then Arizona will face USC at home. If Arizona is 4-0 , I fully expect a near sell out crowd.tgrumpy2 wrote:Hey I'm ecstatic as well but come on, Chill guys. LOL
Just talked to a Calabasas booster who all but confirmed it. I have heard he needs to get his life together first and hope he can. If he has, I welcome him. Hopefully Isaiah can help.Chicat wrote:
We won't be bad, but that's a pretty crazy stretch. We still have a bare cupboard on defense and no depth pretty much anywhere on the team. Any injuries at all will fatally cripple us just like they have for 3 years now.ramcat wrote:Think the Cats win the South.
If he left, that would have been bad.chiefzona wrote:Friekh was the OL starter I was referring to about transferring. He was 50/50 and his RR comments were funny yet unnecessary. So, I thought I’d let that outta the bag for you since he can’t get over the RR firing.
The wording in that quote made me laugh.....A coach of Sumlin's ability also can change that rather easily, especially since Rich Rod didn't leave the cupboard bare.
Cant trust a former player and someone who spends 50 hours a week studying the PAC12 when hater says otherwisePostmaster wrote:Yogi Roth was on 1490 today and said he thinks we will win south next season
Thanks btfd16! Personally I liked the obvious quote below the most:btfd16 wrote:The wording in that quote made me laugh.....A coach of Sumlin's ability also can change that rather easily, especially since Rich Rod didn't leave the cupboard bare.
It’s so damned obvious to everyone but some delusional Scummies. Bear Down Coach Sumlin!As far as recruiting goes, there has to be a renewed recruiting emphasis in California and Texas. In-state, let's just say as long as Sumlin is at Arizona and Herm Edwards is at Arizona State, it's advantage Wildcats.
It's obvious to them too. They just won't admit it.Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Personally I liked the obvious quote below the most:
It’s so damned obvious to everyone but some delusional Scummies. Bear Down Coach Sumlin!As far as recruiting goes, there has to be a renewed recruiting emphasis in California and Texas. In-state, let's just say as long as Sumlin is at Arizona and Herm Edwards is at Arizona State, it's advantage Wildcats.
I'd prefer Sumlin over Herm, no doubt. That said, I find it interesting how quickly you all are anointing Sumlin as a sure fire home run. How often does a coach fired from a better program meet expectations at the next job? Sumlin had a staff of ace recruiters at A&M, most of which will not be joining him in Tucson. While I have little doubt that Sumlin will elevate recruiting, what has Sumlin done to make you think he can develop or even capitalize on said talent? Sumlin had like 3 top 10 recruiting classes at A&M. With all that talent on the roster this year, he blew a huge lead and lost to UCLA (a team RR beat with much less talent), and was tied in the 4th qtr against Nicholls State.Chicat wrote:It's obvious to them too. They just won't admit it.Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Personally I liked the obvious quote below the most:
It’s so damned obvious to everyone but some delusional Scummies. Bear Down Coach Sumlin!As far as recruiting goes, there has to be a renewed recruiting emphasis in California and Texas. In-state, let's just say as long as Sumlin is at Arizona and Herm Edwards is at Arizona State, it's advantage Wildcats.
Texas A&M is Mississippi State, except that when they look in the mirror they see Alabama.Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:I'd prefer Sumlin over Herm, no doubt. That said, I find it interesting how quickly you all are anointing Sumlin as a sure fire home run. How often does a coach fired from a better program meet expectations at the next job? Sumlin had a staff of ace recruiters at A&M, most of which will not be joining him in Tucson. While I have little doubt that Sumlin will elevate recruiting, what has Sumlin done to make you think he can develop or even capitalize on said talent? Sumlin had like 3 top 10 recruiting classes at A&M. With all that talent on the roster this year, he blew a huge lead and lost to UCLA (a team RR beat with much less talent), and was tied in the 4th qtr against Nicholls State.Chicat wrote:It's obvious to them too. They just won't admit it.Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Personally I liked the obvious quote below the most:
It’s so damned obvious to everyone but some delusional Scummies. Bear Down Coach Sumlin!As far as recruiting goes, there has to be a renewed recruiting emphasis in California and Texas. In-state, let's just say as long as Sumlin is at Arizona and Herm Edwards is at Arizona State, it's advantage Wildcats.
The reality is, there were several jobs open, many of which Sumlin made a play for. He was never seriously considered for any of them until UA. Perhaps because of the reasons I list above? Or perhaps because at one point Sumlin was leading a program that was tied with Oklahoma at for most players arrested in all of NCAA.
So yes, Sumlin is a better hire than Herm Edwards, but that isn't saying much. Just about anyone would have been a better hire than Herm Edwards. As pointed out in other threads, I like many ASU folks wanted nothing to do with Sumlin... until the reality of who we were hiring hit us in the face. So did UA make a better hire than ASU? Yes. Did UA hire a good coach? Not so sure about that. While there is one Sumlin aggie fan boy here, I would advise you go look through the archive at Texags to get a feel for what A&M fans really think of Sumlin. There is a reason he is not there now, and that they wanted him gone awhile ago.
Charlie Strong is the easiest example from last year. Could count Kiffin as well if you want. Orgeron was fired by USC (not retained--semantics), but was ok at LSU this year and should be better next year. Bobby Petrino has been good since returning to Louisville, if you want a multi year example.Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:I'd prefer Sumlin over Herm, no doubt. That said, I find it interesting how quickly you all are anointing Sumlin as a sure fire home run. How often does a coach fired from a better program meet expectations at the next job? Sumlin had a staff of ace recruiters at A&M, most of which will not be joining him in Tucson. While I have little doubt that Sumlin will elevate recruiting, what has Sumlin done to make you think he can develop or even capitalize on said talent? Sumlin had like 3 top 10 recruiting classes at A&M. With all that talent on the roster this year, he blew a huge lead and lost to UCLA (a team RR beat with much less talent), and was tied in the 4th qtr against Nicholls State.Chicat wrote:It's obvious to them too. They just won't admit it.Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Personally I liked the obvious quote below the most:
It’s so damned obvious to everyone but some delusional Scummies. Bear Down Coach Sumlin!As far as recruiting goes, there has to be a renewed recruiting emphasis in California and Texas. In-state, let's just say as long as Sumlin is at Arizona and Herm Edwards is at Arizona State, it's advantage Wildcats.
The reality is, there were several jobs open, many of which Sumlin made a play for. He was never seriously considered for any of them until UA. Perhaps because of the reasons I list above? Or perhaps because at one point Sumlin was leading a program that was tied with Oklahoma at for most players arrested in all of NCAA.
So yes, Sumlin is a better hire than Herm Edwards, but that isn't saying much. Just about anyone would have been a better hire than Herm Edwards. As pointed out in other threads, I like many ASU folks wanted nothing to do with Sumlin... until the reality of who we were hiring hit us in the face. So did UA make a better hire than ASU? Yes. Did UA hire a good coach? Not so sure about that. While there is one Sumlin aggie fan boy here, I would advise you go look through the archive at Texags to get a feel for what A&M fans really think of Sumlin. There is a reason he is not there now, and that they wanted him gone awhile ago.