Bear Down Wildcats

ASUHATER! wrote:One website I saw said Colorado state/Nevada...but that doesn't make sense since they are in the same conference

Proof we need more bowl games.

Wow. Weird. Well at least they play in different divisions and didn't play this year.

That is actually not a bad match up. Did they play each other during the season?

Might go down for that in support of the game planners. Lord knows Tucson needs a win

Heard the Az bowl couldn't pay the minimum for a pac12 team. Nm pays half a million which is half of the Dallas and independence bowls. With all the bowls sharing, and with so many pac teams in bowls, doubt the share is a lot and going to take a huge loss to a bowl no one will go to from Tucson.

Gilbertcat wrote:Heard the Az bowl couldn't pay the minimum for a pac12 team. Nm pays half a million which is half of the Dallas and independence bowls. With all the bowls sharing, and with so many pac teams in bowls, doubt the share is a lot and going to take a huge loss to a bowl no one will go to from Tucson.

If the game wasn't at 530 on a Tuesday I'd almost certainly go to the az bowl. If it was on Sunday the 27th instead I'd love to go and I couldn't care less about Colorado state or Nevada

cordera89 wrote:ASU is playing the cactus bowl again WVU on Jan 2. What the hell.

After botching the Kansas State game, I'm hearing Holgerson's job retention comes down to winning this bowl. Meaning he'll have it in him to field a competitive product come Jan 2.

CatsbyAZ wrote:

cordera89 wrote:ASU is playing the cactus bowl again WVU on Jan 2. What the hell.

After botching the Kansas State game, I'm hearing Holgerson's job retention comes down to winning this bowl. Meaning he'll have it in him to field a competitive product come Jan 2.

WVU looking for a new coach on Jan 3? That is pretty late in the game. Pretty much guarantees a position coach or coordinator.

And the whole Bowl system needs to be revamped.

OSUCat wrote:

CatsbyAZ wrote:

cordera89 wrote:ASU is playing the cactus bowl again WVU on Jan 2. What the hell.

After botching the Kansas State game, I'm hearing Holgerson's job retention comes down to winning this bowl. Meaning he'll have it in him to field a competitive product come Jan 2.

WVU looking for a new coach on Jan 3? That is pretty late in the game. Pretty much guarantees a position coach or coordinator.

That's why I'm betting the WVU AD doesn't have the balls to pull the Holgorson plug. With so many openings still left and so much competition the pickings are way too slim, now or after the bowl. Just a terrible year to be looking for a new coach. If they'd beaten KState WV would be 8-4 with tangible improvement to show over the last few years and nobody would be complaining.

Funny what a difference one game can make for a coach's job security. I think they would be making a mistake as well. This hasn't really been a good year to judge Holgo by with some key injuries and the murderer's row in the middle of the schedule (I think by the time they finished that stretch of Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma and Okie St that those teams had combined for only one or two losses, the combined record was something like 24-2 or so.) If he can't put it together next year then you've got more go go off of. Otherwise you fire him after the bowl, pay a hefty buyout, watch your recruiting class get picked apart by other schools, and scramble to find a coach after everyone else has had their choice.

azpenguin wrote:Funny what a difference one game can make for a coach's job security. I think they would be making a mistake as well. This hasn't really been a good year to judge Holgo by with some key injuries and the murderer's row in the middle of the schedule (I think by the time they finished that stretch of Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma and Okie St that those teams had combined for only one or two losses, the combined record was something like 24-2 or so.) If he can't put it together next year then you've got more go go off of. Otherwise you fire him after the bowl, pay a hefty buyout, watch your recruiting class get picked apart by other schools, and scramble to find a coach after everyone else has had their choice.

The buyout is another sticking point, and anoter reason the AD might wait until AFTER the Bowl; from the Washington Post:

One sticking point might be the cost of firing Holgorsen and hiring a new coach: around $15 million. About $8.725 million would go toward buying out Holgorsen and his staff, an amount that will decrease some after the first of the year. It might be worth it for Lyons to wait until after the Mountaineers’ Jan. 2 Cactus Bowl game against Arizona State to make a move, especially considering the coaching carousel has passed West Virginia by anyway.

Couldn't agree more, and because of this, there's reason to believe WVU will be one of the more motivated Bowl teams.

azcat49 wrote:That is actually not a bad match up. Did they play each other during the season?

Might go down for that in support of the game planners. Lord knows Tucson needs a win

Los Lobos playing at halftime.

Here is the first prediction for 2016.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2636 ... on/page/22" target="_blank

It's nice to be mentioned.
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https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootba ... redictions" target="_blank

I'm starting to feel as if this will be a special season.

Not a season for the ages mind you, but one that I'll look back on a be pleasantly surprised from where we started.

And if so, I'll gladly and humbly eat crow.

What will it take to get into the foster farms bowl?

Selfishly asking.

PAC-12 bowl tie ins. Teams cannot refuse a bowl game for these.

http://collegefootballnews.com/2017/01/ ... -2017-2018" target="_blank

Pac-12 Bowl Ties

The Rose Bowl is a College Football Playoff semifinal – there’s no rule that the Pac-12 gets a team in this season.

1. Valero Alamo Bowl vs. Big 12
2. National University Holiday Bowl vs. Big Ten
3. Foster Farms Bowl vs. Big Ten
4. Hyundai Sun Bowl vs. ACC
5. Las Vegas Bowl vs. Mountain West
6. Motel 6 Cactus Bowl vs. Big 12

CalStateTempe wrote:What will it take to get into the foster farms bowl?

Selfishly asking.

I think it would take a second place finish in the South.

Yea we'd probably need to be 9-3 or maybe 8-4

Wow that bowl rose fast in the pecking order.

CalStateTempe wrote:Wow that bowl rose fast in the pecking order.

It's 4th out of 7 positions. The Rose is usually 1st. Keep in mind that even if the PAC doesn't get a team in the playoffs the conference champ is most certainly in a New Years Six bowl.

azgreg wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:Wow that bowl rose fast in the pecking order.

It's 4th out of 7 positions. The Rose is usually 1st. Keep in mind that even if the PAC doesn't get a team in the playoffs the conference champ is most certainly in a New Years Six bowl.

Our kids will have a marvelous time participating in the plethora of activities surrounding a New Years bowl.

Can't wait!

Merkin wrote:PAC-12 bowl tie ins. Teams cannot refuse a bowl game for these.

http://collegefootballnews.com/2017/01/ ... -2017-2018" target="_blank

Pac-12 Bowl Ties

The Rose Bowl is a College Football Playoff semifinal – there’s no rule that the Pac-12 gets a team in this season.

1. Valero Alamo Bowl vs. Big 12
2. National University Holiday Bowl vs. Big Ten
3. Foster Farms Bowl vs. Big Ten
4. Hyundai Sun Bowl vs. ACC
5. Las Vegas Bowl vs. Mountain West
6. Motel 6 Cactus Bowl vs. Big 12

I'm really curious to see what happens to the Las Vegas Bowl after the new stadium is built. At the very least that bowl will move up in the pecking order, hell it could become a BCS/Playoff bowl game based solely on location and new amenities. At the very least I'd love to see it become a Pac-12/SEC bowl game.

Wow choo....I love that idea for a match up.

And sec fan loves the opportunity to travel to vegas.

No thanks.

College Football News says we get to go to 2 bowls!!!

Fiesta Bowl
Saturday, December 30th, 2017
Oklahoma vs Washington

Valero Alamo Bowl
Thursday, December 28th, 2017
Oklahoma State vs USC

San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl
Thursday, December 28th, 2017
Michigan vs. Stanford

Foster Farms Bowl
Wednesday, December 27th, 2017
Northwestern vs. Washington State

Hyundai Sun Bowl
Friday, December 29th, 2017
Georgia Tech vs. Arizona

Las Vegas Bowl
Saturday, December 16th, 2017
San Diego State vs. Utah

Cactus Bowl
Tuesday, December 26th, 2017
Texas Tech vs. Arizona

Birmingham Bowl
Saturday, December 23rd, 2017
Oregon* vs. Mississippi State

Ugh sun bowl is so gross.

I'd go to vegas or foster farms

Hyundai Sun Bowl
Friday, December 29th, 2017
Georgia Tech vs. Arizona

No need to set aside four hours for this game.

Don't want that opponent, but it would be fun to watch.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... tions-2017" target="_blank

https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootba ... redictions" target="_blank

So ESPN has us in the Vegas bowl vs Boise State and the Sun bowl vs Louisville in their two predictions and CBS has is against Texas Tech in the Cactus bowl in theirs. All pretty respectable considering where we were even 2 or 3 weeks ago.

I need redemption against BSU.

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https://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/bowls/predictions" target="_blank

Holiday vs Iowa and Holiday vs Northwestern

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Ooooh, I likey

Irish27 wrote:http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... tions-2017

from the link

Hyundai Sun Bowl

Sun Bowl, El Paso, Texas
Dec. 29, 2 p.m. (CBS)

Bonagura: Louisville vs. Washington State
Hale: Louisville vs. Arizona

Valero Alamo Bowl

Alamodome, San Antonio
Dec. 28, 9 p.m. (ESPN)

Bonagura: Oklahoma State vs. Arizona
Hale: Oklahoma State vs. Stanford

Don't want a rematch with OSU in the Alamo bowl.

UAEebs86 wrote:

I would love if that happened.

Same here. My youngest son lives in SD. More on it.

I would be there so fast.

You know RR will run the score up if he gets the chance.

UAEebs86 wrote:You know RR will run the score up if he gets the chance.

Key words are "if he gets the chance".

chiefzona wrote:

UAEebs86 wrote:You know RR will run the score up if he gets the chance.

Key words are "if he gets the chance".

What do you think UA needs to do the rest of the way to make the Holiday Bowl? 2 more wins?

PHXCATS wrote:

chiefzona wrote:

UAEebs86 wrote:You know RR will run the score up if he gets the chance.

Key words are "if he gets the chance".

What do you think UA needs to do the rest of the way to make the Holiday Bowl? 2 more wins?

I'm not Chief but we'll need to finish 2nd in the South to get to the Holiday Bowl. The only way to guarantee that is to win out.

Gonna be tough.


http://collegefootballnews.com/2017/01/ ... -2017-2018" target="_blank

Pac-12 Bowl Ties

The Rose Bowl is a College Football Playoff semifinal – there’s no rule that the Pac-12 gets a team in this season.

1. Valero Alamo Bowl vs. Big 12
2. National University Holiday Bowl vs. Big Ten
3. Foster Farms Bowl vs. Big Ten
4. Hyundai Sun Bowl vs. ACC
5. Las Vegas Bowl vs. Mountain West
6. Motel 6 Cactus Bowl vs. Big 12

Still think the Sun Bowl is the most likely outcome here.