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Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:32 pm
by ChooChooCat
Alieberman wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
They could get struck by lightning on a non-game day though or practice. Is the university liable for that in your guys' opinions? Honestly curious. Obviously my analogy is the odds of a college aged athlete dying of COVID is less than them being struck by lightning.
I have no problem with professional leagues trying to operate. These athletes are being paid lots of money AND they can opt out.

But I'm coming at this from a student point of view. These players are students first. If Universities are all basically saying students can not congregate due to fears of health and community spread... it is completely hypocritical to allow this to happen. They know the dangers... but are putting these STUDENTS in danger (and the community) because of $$$$.

End of story.

They know the right thing to do.... and are looking the other way
That's fair.

To be honest though they're far more concerned about coaches/professors/etc. being ultimately affected by COVID than they are the players, although I do agree a player dying is the ultimate worst optics possible.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:36 pm
by ChooChooCat
Chicat wrote:So Choo.... you think players should play and practice during thunderstorms? Interesting...
So Chi, I see you have a kindergarten level reading comprehension. Interesting...

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:38 pm
by Chicat
ChooChooCat wrote:
Chicat wrote:So Choo.... you think players should play and practice during thunderstorms? Interesting...
So Chi, I see you have a kindergarten level reading comprehension. Interesting...
But the chances of them being struck by lightening and dying are so low.

Isn’t that your point?

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:40 pm
by ChooChooCat
Chicat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Chicat wrote:So Choo.... you think players should play and practice during thunderstorms? Interesting...
So Chi, I see you have a kindergarten level reading comprehension. Interesting...
But the chances of them being struck by lightening and dying are so low.

Isn’t that your point?
Would you hold the school administration ultimately responsible if a player died of lightning strike because they were on campus regardless of during a football event or not Chi? That's my point.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:44 pm
by Alieberman
ChooChooCat wrote:
Chicat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Chicat wrote:So Choo.... you think players should play and practice during thunderstorms? Interesting...
So Chi, I see you have a kindergarten level reading comprehension. Interesting...
But the chances of them being struck by lightening and dying are so low.

Isn’t that your point?
Would you hold the school administration ultimately responsible if a player died of lightning strike because they were on campus regardless of during a football event or not Chi? That's my point.
I would answer that if the school had a policy that ALL students were strictly forbidden to be outside when lighting was in the area... but then only held their non-athletes to this rule.... then yes, the school would be responsible if an athlete got struck by lighting.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:48 pm
by Merkin
I doubt any players will die, or very few will, the issue is that many of these athletes will be carriers, and then transfer the virus to family members, especially those with health conditions, or grandparents and such who will die.

And exactly why schools should stay closed.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:48 pm
by Chicat
ChooChooCat wrote:
Chicat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Chicat wrote:So Choo.... you think players should play and practice during thunderstorms? Interesting...
So Chi, I see you have a kindergarten level reading comprehension. Interesting...
But the chances of them being struck by lightening and dying are so low.

Isn’t that your point?
Would you hold the school administration ultimately responsible if a player died of lightning strike because they were on campus regardless of during a football event or not Chi? That's my point.
Ahh, then I see it’s actually you with the kindergarten-level communication skills.

I would hold the school administration accountable if he was participating in a school-sanctioned event during a thunderstorm and they didn’t take every precaution possible during that potentially deadly situation to protect the students. Especially if his scholarship was contingent on him participating in that event.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:09 pm
by azgreg
There have been 125 Covid deaths for people between the ages of 15-24. So far this year the US has had 9 deaths (all age groups) by lightning.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23/co ... race-14863" target="_blank
https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-fatalities" target="_blank

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:30 pm
by UAEebs86
What about the ones who don't die but have severe complications?


Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:33 pm
by Chicat
We’ll see what happens...

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:12 pm
by Irish27
The new schedule has been released. Cats open up at home against asu.

2020 Schedule
9/26: ASU
10/3: at Washington
10/10: Colorado
10/17: BYE
10/24: USC
10/31: at Utah
11/7: at Oregon State
11/14: Cal
11/20: Oregon (Friday)
11/28: at UCLA
12/5: at Stanford

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:14 pm
by scumdevils86
I honestly don't care. I can't believe we're letting this happen. I don't think I'll even try and watch this travesty.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:25 pm
by AZCatGirl
This is ASU levels of stupid.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:40 am
by ChooChooCat
Chicat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Chicat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Chicat wrote:So Choo.... you think players should play and practice during thunderstorms? Interesting...
So Chi, I see you have a kindergarten level reading comprehension. Interesting...
But the chances of them being struck by lightening and dying are so low.

Isn’t that your point?
Would you hold the school administration ultimately responsible if a player died of lightning strike because they were on campus regardless of during a football event or not Chi? That's my point.
Ahh, then I see it’s actually you with the kindergarten-level communication skills.

I would hold the school administration accountable if he was participating in a school-sanctioned event during a thunderstorm and they didn’t take every precaution possible during that potentially deadly situation to protect the students. Especially if his scholarship was contingent on him participating in that event.
Or it was just you being willfully dense. Either way Cheers.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:47 am
by ChooChooCat
azgreg wrote:There have been 125 Covid deaths for people between the ages of 15-24. So far this year the US has had 9 deaths (all age groups) by lightning.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23/co ... race-14863" target="_blank
https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-fatalities" target="_blank
1 death is too many Greg let alone 9, you should never leave your house. 240K strikes occur a year and any one of them can be a death. Cherish your life.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:53 am
by ChooChooCat
UAEebs86 wrote:What about the ones who don't die but have severe complications?

Those who are struck by lightning may have neurological issues their entire lives. Never leave your house is the only answer.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:15 am
by UAEebs86
Choo,
I like what you bring to the board so I am not going to argue with you here in the upper boards.

We could have had everything back to semi-normal like you want if we had functional leadership and response at the Federal level and intelligent citizens who listened to science. Most other industrialized countries are there. Come on down to the lower boards if you want to discuss.

Physical distancing, masks, and extensive testing and contact tracing is all it took. This virus is actually not that hard to beat. We are too immature as a country to pull any of this off, and a vaccine isn't going to help when half the country refuses to take it.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:30 am
by azgreg
ChooChooCat wrote:
azgreg wrote:There have been 125 Covid deaths for people between the ages of 15-24. So far this year the US has had 9 deaths (all age groups) by lightning.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23/co ... race-14863" target="_blank
https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-fatalities" target="_blank
1 death is too many Greg let alone 9, you should never leave your house. 240K strikes occur a year and any one of them can be a death. Cherish your life.
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Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:39 am
by ChooChooCat
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Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:40 am
by ChooChooCat
azgreg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
azgreg wrote:There have been 125 Covid deaths for people between the ages of 15-24. So far this year the US has had 9 deaths (all age groups) by lightning.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23/co ... race-14863" target="_blank
https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-fatalities" target="_blank
1 death is too many Greg let alone 9, you should never leave your house. 240K strikes occur a year and any one of them can be a death. Cherish your life.
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And the point in my trolling went over your head. Son, I am disappoint.

God am I bored.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:03 am
by CatsbyAZ
AZCatGirl wrote: This is ASU levels of stupid.
So honest question for you and anyone else who'd like to answer:

What's your advice to me, who does plan to attend UA games if allowed this coming season? If they sell tickets I plan to attend at least one hoe game, being sure to follow all the medical advice - social distancing, wear a mask/gloves, etc. I'm willing to sign a liability form as well.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:38 am
by Alieberman
I would say if you do all of that you should be fine... I would avoid crowds as much as possible and especially the bathroom!

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:42 am
by pc in NM
Alieberman wrote:I would say if you do all of that you should be fine... I would avoid crowds as much as possible and especially the bathroom!
I suggest that entry to/exit from the stadium will be a major challenge to any sense of “social distancing - proper execution of this safely would increase the time exponentially....

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:13 pm
by Alieberman

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:52 pm
by PHXCATS
Alieberman wrote:

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:10 pm
by ASUHATER!
QB Kevin Doyle has opted out of the season

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:34 am
by Merkin
ASUHATER! wrote:QB Kevin Doyle has opted out of the season
Smart man.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:10 am
by azgreg
This ain't happening.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:17 am
by ChooChooCat
Shoutout to the Pac-12 players for seeing the opportunity of asking for money during a season where money was going to be hard to come by. The Power 5 conferences may survive this year, but the rest of college football may very well be dead. Way to go guys, you certainly see the forest for the trees. They're literally falling for the words of a snake oil salesman.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:23 am
by Merkin
ChooChooCat wrote:Shoutout to the Pac-12 players for seeing the opportunity of asking for money during a season where money was going to be hard to come by. The Power 5 conferences may survive this year, but the rest of college football may very well be dead. Way to go guys, you certainly see the forest for the trees. They're literally falling for the words of a snake oil salesman.
Who would that be Choo? Fauci?

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:28 am
by ChooChooCat
Merkin wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Shoutout to the Pac-12 players for seeing the opportunity of asking for money during a season where money was going to be hard to come by. The Power 5 conferences may survive this year, but the rest of college football may very well be dead. Way to go guys, you certainly see the forest for the trees. They're literally falling for the words of a snake oil salesman.
Who would that be Choo? Fauci?
LOL DURRRRR.

Ramogi Huma.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:43 pm
by azcat49
I kind of felt Doyle was sitting out to take advantage of the opportunity to retain eligibility since GG isn’t going to be unseated anytime soon. Maybe GG goes pro after his JR year and that would mean Doyle would have a couple years as the starter. He was a Michigan recruit so he must have talent. Maybe reading to much into it but that was my initial thought, be safe and time your future opportunities better

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:09 pm
by Merkin
Chief was saying that Sumlin told Steele that Doyle was #2 on the depth chart.



On a related note:

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:58 pm
by PHXCATS
Some of the demands are already in place, some a good and should try to be implemented right away, and the remaining are completely ridiculous

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:00 pm
by Merkin
Stewart Mandel, the editor-in-chief of The Athletic’s college football vertical, made record predictions for every Pac-12 team following Friday’s schedule reveal, and he has zero confidence in the Wildcats, projecting them to go winless for the season.

That’s right. 0-10.

“The best-case scenario for Kevin Sumlin’s third season is that it gets canceled altogether,” Mandel wrote.



https://www.azdesertswarm.com/football/ ... dzxGWJwq3Y" target="_blank

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:03 pm
by PHXCATS
asu has really struggled out of the gate the last several years barely beating crappy FCS teams. Unfortunately U of A has also struggled under Sumlin in week 0/1

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:36 pm
by ASUHATER!
Merkin wrote:Stewart Mandel, the editor-in-chief of The Athletic’s college football vertical, made record predictions for every Pac-12 team following Friday’s schedule reveal, and he has zero confidence in the Wildcats, projecting them to go winless for the season.

That’s right. 0-10.

“The best-case scenario for Kevin Sumlin’s third season is that it gets canceled altogether,” Mandel wrote.



https://www.azdesertswarm.com/football/ ... dzxGWJwq3Y" target="_blank
I agree. Absolute ceiling for this team is like 3-7. I think we'll sneak a win somewhere and go 1-9 though. But in reality I think the season will be cancelled after 1-2 games because of major virus outbreaks among all the conference teams

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:16 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:42 am
by Merkin
azgreg wrote:


WSU player told he could opt out due to Covid, but if joins this movement he won't have a scholarship next season:

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:50 am
by ChooChooCat

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:56 am
by PHXCATS
This article was perfect

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:12 am
by ChooChooCat
PHXCATS wrote:
This article was perfect
Give them NIL, which they deserve, and that's it. I'm tired of the fantasy world that these guys believe exists where they're victims, when literally every body would kill to have the opportunities they have.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:20 am
by PHXCATS
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
This article was perfect
Give them NIL, which they deserve, and that's it. I'm tired of the fantasy world that these guys believe exists where they're victims, when literally every body would kill to have the opportunities they have.
Players should get NIL and one transfer without sitting and address any racism issues and let them have a say in COVID-19 safety measures.

Everything else tell them bye if they dont like it. No one forces them to play college sports.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:23 am
by ChooChooCat
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
This article was perfect
Give them NIL, which they deserve, and that's it. I'm tired of the fantasy world that these guys believe exists where they're victims, when literally every body would kill to have the opportunities they have.
Players should get NIL and one transfer without sitting and address any racism issues and let them have a say in COVID-19 safety measures.

Everything else tell them bye if they dont like it. No one forces them to play college sports.
Honest question, what racism issues are facing student athletes as far as the system goes?

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:42 am
by PHXCATS
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
This article was perfect
Give them NIL, which they deserve, and that's it. I'm tired of the fantasy world that these guys believe exists where they're victims, when literally every body would kill to have the opportunities they have.
Players should get NIL and one transfer without sitting and address any racism issues and let them have a say in COVID-19 safety measures.

Everything else tell them bye if they dont like it. No one forces them to play college sports.
Honest question, what racism issues are facing student athletes as far as the system goes?
I have absolutely no idea but they are the players and they say there are issues so let’s investigate them and address them

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:43 am
by ASUHATER!
The same racism issues that face every other person of color in the United States...

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:12 am
by PHXCATS
The players demanded letter says there is racial injustice in college sports.

I would love to read/hear what that means so that it can be fixed

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:13 am
by Alieberman
It seems very weird to me that the biggest college football fans seem to have the most contempt for the actual college football player.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:16 am
by ASUHATER!
Alieberman wrote:It seems very weird to me that the biggest college football fans seem to have the most contempt for the actual college football player.
Yea they view them as commodities and chattel for their own personal enjoyment and fandom.

Re: 2020 Season Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:18 am
by Merkin
PHXCATS wrote:The players demanded letter says there is racial injustice in college sports.

I would love to read/hear what that means so that it can be fixed
Here is just the financial part of it. At a minimum, the NCAA has to allow NIL deals very soon.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb ... r-BB17swBc" target="_blank