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AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:05 pm
Postmaster wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:03 pm What is that technique where Fafita holds the ball like he is a statue when he is handing off? I've seen similar but it's usually a team that is employing an option of some sort.
Idk, but I like how our o line is a problem except Fifita has the longest time to throw in college football. So which is it.
Having the longest time to throw and holding onto the ball the longest aren't the same thing.
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Does anyone know if Babers was strongly encouraged to be our OC. I have heard some rumors about that. Certainly still his call to reject that but at least it might give him some rope
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azgreg wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:07 pm
AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:05 pm
Postmaster wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:03 pm What is that technique where Fafita holds the ball like he is a statue when he is handing off? I've seen similar but it's usually a team that is employing an option of some sort.
Idk, but I like how our o line is a problem except Fifita has the longest time to throw in college football. So which is it.
Having the longest time to throw and holding onto the ball the longest aren't the same thing.
True. But if the o line was really that bad both of those metrics would be vastly different because Fifita would be forced to get rid of it. The fact that Fifita can drop back 15 yards and not get sacked every single time shows that the o line is more than competent.

In my mind the scheme sucks which forces Fifita to hold onto the ball. Do we not throw bubble screens, tunnel screens, slants anymore?
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dmjcat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:03 pm
Chicat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:46 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:02 pm
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I didn't attack your family or wife.......I pity them.
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AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:24 pm True. But if the o line was really that bad both of those metrics would be vastly different because Fifita would be forced to get rid of it. The fact that Fifita can drop back 15 yards and not get sacked every single time shows that the o line is more than competent.

In my mind the scheme sucks which forces Fifita to hold onto the ball. Do we not throw bubble screens, tunnel screens, slants anymore?
He's been holding onto the ball while running and scrambling for his life.
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Chicat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:34 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:03 pm
Chicat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:46 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:02 pm
Chicat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:44 pmDMJ’sBCBB
I pity your wife :lol:
Oh goody, a personal attack bringing up my family. You’re a real winner dmj.
I didn't attack your family or wife.......I pity them.
You have a real issue with reading comprehension, don’t you?
Not in the least.
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azgreg wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:40 pm
AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:24 pm True. But if the o line was really that bad both of those metrics would be vastly different because Fifita would be forced to get rid of it. The fact that Fifita can drop back 15 yards and not get sacked every single time shows that the o line is more than competent.

In my mind the scheme sucks which forces Fifita to hold onto the ball. Do we not throw bubble screens, tunnel screens, slants anymore?
He's been holding onto the ball while running and scrambling for his life.
Occasionally yes, but not all the time. He def has more than enough time for a 2 step drop and get the ball out. But again the scheme isn’t calling for that
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AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:50 pm
azgreg wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:40 pm
AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:24 pm True. But if the o line was really that bad both of those metrics would be vastly different because Fifita would be forced to get rid of it. The fact that Fifita can drop back 15 yards and not get sacked every single time shows that the o line is more than competent.

In my mind the scheme sucks which forces Fifita to hold onto the ball. Do we not throw bubble screens, tunnel screens, slants anymore?
He's been holding onto the ball while running and scrambling for his life.
Occasionally yes, but not all the time. He def has more than enough time for a 2 step drop and get the ball out. But again the scheme isn’t calling for that
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AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:50 pm
azgreg wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:40 pm
AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:24 pm True. But if the o line was really that bad both of those metrics would be vastly different because Fifita would be forced to get rid of it. The fact that Fifita can drop back 15 yards and not get sacked every single time shows that the o line is more than competent.

In my mind the scheme sucks which forces Fifita to hold onto the ball. Do we not throw bubble screens, tunnel screens, slants anymore?
He's been holding onto the ball while running and scrambling for his life.
Occasionally yes, but not all the time. He def has more than enough time for a 2 step drop and get the ball out. But again the scheme isn’t calling for that
It's clear to me that the O line isn't as good as last year. Losing Morgan will do that. I'll give you the scheme deal. There was a play early in the WVU game where the QB rolled out left with the TE in front of him. When the defender got by the TE the QB flipped the ball to the TE for a sizeable gain. Beautiful play. That type of play isn't in Brennan's playbook like it was in Fisch's.
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AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:05 pm

I am sticking up for SANITY.

Fire Brennan and whomever you hire is going to have the SAME problem next year (little talent). And of course with very little NIL the new coach won't be able to recruit either so the "Jump of the Cliff" crowd will be right back here calling for the new coach to be fired.

Get a grip. You don't rebuild overnight, especially if you are NIL-Limited UA.
Think about every new coach UofA has had and the talent they had available. Stoops had nothing, rich rod had nothing, sumlin had a diva in Tate, fisch had less than nothing.

Now picture the circumstance Brennan walked into. All 4 of those coaches would have traded anything to start with what Brennan has.

THIS ISNT A REBUILD. Stop saying that. Brennan almost everything in place to field an upper tier Big 12 team. Maybe not contend for a title but def not finish last like we will.
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Cannot be stressed enough. The kind of team Brennan has is the stuff of dreams for first year coaches. There are no more Tyler Loops in Brennan's future, or TMacs. The talent he has (or had) to manage is simply unbelievable. He has a kicker that can roll out of bed in his jammies and kick 60 yarders. Over 90 percent of coaches across the country would kill just for Loop. Can you imagine getting stalled at the 50 yard line and still be able to get points out of that drive? Alabama is the most storied program in America over the last 10 years or so and they have two first rounders for the 2025 draft. Arizona? THREE.

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Every position group is substantially worse than last year but that doesn't fit the narrative
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PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:08 pm Every position group is substantially worse than last year but that doesn't fit the narrative
Some people just live to make excuses for garbage no matter how bad it stinks.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:34 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:08 pm Every position group is substantially worse than last year but that doesn't fit the narrative
Some people just live to make excuses for garbage no matter how bad it stinks.
QB-No JDL as a backup and to help Noah (substantially worse room)
WR-No Cowing and no one has stepped up to be a 10th of Cowing (substantially worse room)
TE-Burnett has stepped up when healthy but still no where near as good as Mclaughlin (substantially worse)
RB-Lose your four best RBs from last. Conley has been good and Reeceno is good as a backup but substantially worse
Oline-Lose Morgan lose tons of depth. No one playing better than last year of the returning players (substantially worse)

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PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:08 pm Every position group is substantially worse than last year but that doesn't fit the narrative
And yet every position group is substantially better than any new coach has ever had. Hell this group is probably better than any group rich rod had, yet his teams never looked this unprepared or inept. (Maybe the 3-3-5 did at times)
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PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:43 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:34 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:08 pm Every position group is substantially worse than last year but that doesn't fit the narrative
Some people just live to make excuses for garbage no matter how bad it stinks.
QB-No JDL as a backup and to help Noah (substantially worse room)
WR-No Cowing and no one has stepped up to be a 10th of Cowing (substantially worse room)
TE-Burnett has stepped up when healthy but still no where near as good as Mclaughlin (substantially worse)
RB-Lose your four best RBs from last. Conley has been good and Reeceno is good as a backup but substantially worse
Oline-Lose Morgan lose tons of depth. No one playing better than last year of the returning players (substantially worse)

I support the players fully. I will be at both games. I will renew my tickers and donate more. Because I am not fair weather
Yes that explains why we can only muster 22 points versus Texas Tech when Abilene Christian put up 51 on them. It also explains why we can only put up 7 against Colorado for homecoming. It certainly also explains how we lose to West Virginia at home when WV didn't have its starting QB, best OL, and 90% of its defense hurt.

Is there less talent than last year on this team? Sure. Should it be this bad? Absolutely fucking not. Quit carrying the water for a catastrophe of a coaching job. I'm happy you're such a great fan and better than all of us though. Good for you.
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AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:47 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:08 pm Every position group is substantially worse than last year but that doesn't fit the narrative
And yet every position group is substantially better than any new coach has ever had. Hell this group is probably better than any group rich rod had, yet his teams never looked this unprepared or inept. (Maybe the 3-3-5 did at times)
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azgreg wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:30 pm
AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:50 pm
azgreg wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:40 pm
AZarchery wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:24 pm True. But if the o line was really that bad both of those metrics would be vastly different because Fifita would be forced to get rid of it. The fact that Fifita can drop back 15 yards and not get sacked every single time shows that the o line is more than competent.

In my mind the scheme sucks which forces Fifita to hold onto the ball. Do we not throw bubble screens, tunnel screens, slants anymore?
He's been holding onto the ball while running and scrambling for his life.
Occasionally yes, but not all the time. He def has more than enough time for a 2 step drop and get the ball out. But again the scheme isn’t calling for that
It's clear to me that the O line isn't as good as last year. Losing Morgan will do that. I'll give you the scheme deal. There was a play early in the WVU game where the QB rolled out left with the TE in front of him. When the defender got by the TE the QB flipped the ball to the TE for a sizeable gain. Beautiful play. That type of play isn't in Brennan's playbook like it was in Fisch's.
I remember that play. A few minutes later we had same opportunity. IIRC, Fafita threw it away.
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I think the Brennan defenders would have a point if they could illustrate how great he’s done with marginal talent in the past and chalk this up as an anomaly of injuries and key defectors but what is it about his record at San Jose State would lead you to believe that he can actually coach at this level?

It’s certainly not his 8-29 record over his first three seasons at SJSU. Is it the 7-1 Covid season? Because, c’mon let’s be real. Things were just downright wacky that year. And he went a combined 19-18 over the next three seasons.

Time to face up to the fact that if Brennan hadn’t been a GA under Tomey and if his brother wasn’t a beloved Wildcat, there’d be no way he’d even get a cursory interview for a job like Arizona.
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Brent seems like such a good guy though and with the right staff under him, can probably recruit very well.

I'm pulling for him to get a competent offensive staff under him, and right this ship before it sinks. At the latest, changes need to be made before the last game so we can get the contract money in place and have an OC in place immediately after the regular season.
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Carcassdragger wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:42 am Brent seems like such a good guy though and with the right staff under him, can probably recruit very well.

I'm pulling for him to get a competent offensive staff under him, and right this ship before it sinks. At the latest, changes need to be made before the last game so we can get the contract money in place and have an OC in place immediately after the regular season.
Based on the place Brent will be at after this season (if he keeps his job), I don't foresee any OC worth a damn taking on that job. You're basically working under a coach with a red hot seat and most coaches worth a damn aren't exactly excited to sign up to work under those conditions.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:45 am
Carcassdragger wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:42 am Brent seems like such a good guy though and with the right staff under him, can probably recruit very well.

I'm pulling for him to get a competent offensive staff under him, and right this ship before it sinks. At the latest, changes need to be made before the last game so we can get the contract money in place and have an OC in place immediately after the regular season.
Based on the place Brent will be at after this season (if he keeps his job), I don't foresee any OC worth a damn taking on that job. You're basically working under a coach with a red hot seat and most coaches worth a damn aren't exactly excited to sign up to work under those conditions.
Yeah, but it could be a big break for a young guy-if he can recruit, coach, and scheme well.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:48 am
PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:43 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:34 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:08 pm Every position group is substantially worse than last year but that doesn't fit the narrative
Some people just live to make excuses for garbage no matter how bad it stinks.
QB-No JDL as a backup and to help Noah (substantially worse room)
WR-No Cowing and no one has stepped up to be a 10th of Cowing (substantially worse room)
TE-Burnett has stepped up when healthy but still no where near as good as Mclaughlin (substantially worse)
RB-Lose your four best RBs from last. Conley has been good and Reeceno is good as a backup but substantially worse
Oline-Lose Morgan lose tons of depth. No one playing better than last year of the returning players (substantially worse)

I support the players fully. I will be at both games. I will renew my tickers and donate more. Because I am not fair weather
Yes that explains why we can only muster 22 points versus Texas Tech when Abilene Christian put up 51 on them. It also explains why we can only put up 7 against Colorado for homecoming. It certainly also explains how we lose to West Virginia at home when WV didn't have its starting QB, best OL, and 90% of its defense hurt.

Is there less talent than last year on this team? Sure. Should it be this bad? Absolutely fucking not. Quit carrying the water for a catastrophe of a coaching job. I'm happy you're such a great fan and better than all of us though. Good for you.
Oh and also why did Arizona only put up 26 at home to WV whose defense has been literally so bad that they fired their DC a week after playing us?

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Real coaches fire coordinators who clearly underperform.
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For all intents and purposes, Babers has been fired. The issue is we took all fall and spring and installing his offense and you just can’t install a new one in a few weeks. A few plays for sure but CBB made the huge mistake of hiring Babers. Whether that was forced on him or strongly suggested is up for debate
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azcat49 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:59 am For all intents and purposes, Babers has been fired. The issue is we took all fall and spring and installing his offense and you just can’t install a new one in a few weeks. A few plays for sure but CBB made the huge mistake of hiring Babers. Whether that was forced on him or strongly suggested is up for debate
The optics of him not being fired shows the weakness in Brennan that is supported by the play on the field and demeaner in press room. For all intents and purposes is a lot different then what is shown to the team and their families, they media, the fans and the recruits. This is a cutthroat business and either you are cut out for it our you aren't. I know I am not, but I am not paid millions to be in this role.

A firing at least shows to all that the crap that got put out there will not be acceptable in this program, as opposed to quietly hiding the fact that we are keeping him on in a reduced role that only those die hards even notice changed because we don't want to hurt his feelings.
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I don’t think that would have the type of impact with fans that you think. Only thing that is going to win them back is wins. He has lost them for the near future. I get where you are coming from though
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Does anyone know if DRF can override Brennan and hire new staff if the boosters don't pony up? Does anyone know the details of his contract?
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RawleArenas wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:46 am Does anyone know if DRF can override Brennan and hire new staff if the boosters don't pony up? Does anyone know the details of his contract?
Yes, the AD can dictate hires if she so desires. Usually that's not acceptable or is the case, but Brent isn't her guy and he's on thin ice, so if DRF wants a T-Rex to be her OC she can pretty much make it happen.
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