Re: Fire Casteel
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:00 pm
I'll post it again, RR must owe casteel BIG TIME!
Learn to use Google. Addae was RB coach at Cincy, and graduate assistant coaching DB's (last time I checked, CB was a DB, right?) at Michigan. Dude was also an all conference DB in college - I know it doesn't stack up to "Salty Internet Guy" as yourself, but the dude is probably a good coach and a young, energetic guy. Which can be a good combo for recruiting.chiefzona wrote:Dkenner wrote:does anyone know how good of a DB coach Addae is yet? cause I got a cousin flipping burgers that thinks he can coach too!
Hey DK.....Lockwood was garbage. This Addae kid hasn't even coached one game as a CB coach. We all know the real problem is Casteel but hey, let's get your cousin in the mix.
Oh, I'm just playing around with my buddy DK. CB meaning he hasn't even coached up corners and that's a big eyesore on this team. Safeties are tough to coach in this system so that'll be a big challenge as well. I knew he was a RB coach but why mention it when it's completely irrelevant to coaching DBs. Casteel is unreal as a DC and he's one of the best in the game.wyo-cat wrote:Learn to use Google. Addae was RB coach at Cincy, and graduate assistant coaching DB's (last time I checked, CB was a DB, right?) at Michigan. Dude was also an all conference DB in college - I know it doesn't stack up to "Salty Internet Guy" as yourself, but the dude is probably a good coach and a young, energetic guy. Which can be a good combo for recruiting.chiefzona wrote:Dkenner wrote:does anyone know how good of a DB coach Addae is yet? cause I got a cousin flipping burgers that thinks he can coach too!
Hey DK.....Lockwood was garbage. This Addae kid hasn't even coached one game as a CB coach. We all know the real problem is Casteel but hey, let's get your cousin in the mix.
Back to the Casteel thing...the dude has had top 10 defenses in the past and has a good rep, once again he's not as well known as you, the "Salty Internet Guy", but I'll take his track record over yours any day.
You are picking and choosing your phrases and facts very cleverly, being the "Salty Internet Guy" that you are, but I don't see what your motivation is. Not building your business - being a jackass isn't good for business. Especially in the role you play as a mentor to these kids.
Just sayin....
Chicat wrote:It's spelled "turd".
catinfl wrote:Addae is a proven recruiter. Did well at Cincinnati
"Addae has also been recognized by Rivals.com as one of the top-10 recruiters in the BIG EAST Conference in 2010-11."http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-foot ... ile00.html
For real Cat fans, we have no choice but to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he succeeds.azcat49 wrote:He did that with Robert Anae and then when he left he hired the CAL OLine coach (coach Mic) but no doubt he likes his buddies.
I am willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt as I have heard he really is a good recruiter. Time will tell.
Agree 100%. At this point, I have almost felt Ragle has hurt our recruiting in the valley as I have heard rumors many of the other area coaches do not like him from his time at Chapparal. We also have gotten some Chapparal players but none have made a major difference so far.Harvey Specter wrote:For real Cat fans, we have no choice but to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he succeeds.azcat49 wrote:He did that with Robert Anae and then when he left he hired the CAL OLine coach (coach Mic) but no doubt he likes his buddies.
I am willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt as I have heard he really is a good recruiter. Time will tell.
But I am reluctant to buy into this 'he is a great recruiter' talk track that Scheer initiated. Yes, I know he was rated one of the 10 best recruiting assistants in the Big East while he was at Cincinnati (decent accolade, but let's not get carried away). Recruiting is the lifeblood of every college program, and a great recruiter with position coach experience would have been on the trail for somebody... and not working in our film room these past 3 (or however many) seasons.
I remember reading how Ragle was going to give us a big edge in recruiting the Valley. Yawn.
Rhetoric is part of the game, I get that. But when it does not pass the smell test - don't blame those of us who don't buy into it.
I will be ecstatic to eat crow if this guy moves the needle with our '17 class.
Neither WV or ASU played any defense last night so I guess I did see what the 335 was supposed to look like...just terribleDkenner wrote:anyone watching this WV/Asu game and see what the 335 is supposed to look like?
Newportcat wrote:Casteel was fired!
Maybe he is trying to build a program here thendmjcat wrote:catinfl wrote:Addae is a proven recruiter. Did well at Cincinnati
"Addae has also been recognized by Rivals.com as one of the top-10 recruiters in the BIG EAST Conference in 2010-11."http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-foot ... ile00.html
Forgive me for not getting too excited about Lockwoods demise. While he certainly deserved it RRod chose to replace him not with someone with Western recruiting ties (which we badly need) but with someone who is acknowledged for being a top recruiter in the Big East. It appears that RRod is intent on keeping a staff that is constructed for running a program on the East Coast, not the PAC12.
The day that RRod sacks Casteel & Kirlawich (sp?) and replaces them with West Coast based assistants will be the day that RRod demonstrates that he is trying to build a long term program at AZ. Until then, he's just treading water until he can high-tail it back east on his own terms.
Bon Voyage to you and Casteel.chiefzona wrote:My work is done here.
Yep, rushing 3 and dropping back 8 into coverage only works against crummy QBs. Anyone half decent gets career games against that defense.Chicat wrote:RR still likes the 3-3-5, so I'm guessing it stays. What will probably change is how aggressive we are with blitzes. When played correctly, there should always be at least 4 guys rushing the passer. When you play it conservatively like Casteel, you end up giving the QB plenty of time to throw with big passing lanes, and RBs nice wide-open holes in the line until they get to the second level.
Newportcat wrote:I think Wilcox got thrown under the bus a bit at USC as their DC. Major west coast connections
I would really like to hire a guy who
1. Actually recruits
2. Has west coast connections
3. Doesn't run the 335
I would say this firing has raised my excitement level for next year for sure as the thought of watching casteel running the 335 made me sick
That's they key to the 3-3-5. Another guy is coming, you just don't know where he's coming from. I think Casteel was too worried about the secondary to send more blitzers and then with the QB having extra time the secondary was going to have trouble anyway. Against USC and Utah they were much more aggressive on defense and it showed. USC has a stud o-line and they were knocking Kessler all over the place.Merkin wrote:Yep, rushing 3 and dropping back 8 into coverage only works against crummy QBs. Anyone half decent gets career games against that defense.Chicat wrote:RR still likes the 3-3-5, so I'm guessing it stays. What will probably change is how aggressive we are with blitzes. When played correctly, there should always be at least 4 guys rushing the passer. When you play it conservatively like Casteel, you end up giving the QB plenty of time to throw with big passing lanes, and RBs nice wide-open holes in the line until they get to the second level.
Especially when the UA DBs are a step slower and 6" shorter than the receivers.
Always rush 4, just disguising where the 4th is coming from.
I'd doubt it. Athletic directors getting involved in football decisions is a recipe for trouble.azgreg wrote:Is it possible that this was mandated by GB?
Heard yesterday that Clancy is going back to USCuacat540 wrote:This has an undertone of my favorite man, Byrne. With a huge retention bonus upcoming, RR's flirting with SC, it sounds like Byrne said enough is enough and saw that Arizona was headed backwards without significant changes. Hate that we are all happy that 2 people lost their jobs, families have to move etc, but this was needed. I still want pendergast here with ogeron as a d line coach. That would finally show a commitment of serious levels on behalf of Arizona to football. Man has there been a better weekend than ASU craping down its leg in both sports and a well needed staff shake up on the Arizona front?
He's from Tucson but is better slated as a DL coach. Decent west coast recruiter.azgreg wrote:
I don't feel bad at all for guys who make as much money as casteel made the past couple of years getting fireduacat540 wrote:This has an undertone of my favorite man, Byrne. With a huge retention bonus upcoming, RR's flirting with SC, it sounds like Byrne said enough is enough and saw that Arizona was headed backwards without significant changes. Hate that we are all happy that 2 people lost their jobs, families have to move etc, but this was needed. I still want pendergast here with ogeron as a d line coach. That would finally show a commitment of serious levels on behalf of Arizona to football. Man has there been a better weekend than ASU craping down its leg in both sports and a well needed staff shake up on the Arizona front?
wyo-cat wrote:Learn to use Google. Addae was RB coach at Cincy, and graduate assistant coaching DB's (last time I checked, CB was a DB, right?) at Michigan. Dude was also an all conference DB in college - I know it doesn't stack up to "Salty Internet Guy" as yourself, but the dude is probably a good coach and a young, energetic guy. Which can be a good combo for recruiting.chiefzona wrote:Dkenner wrote:does anyone know how good of a DB coach Addae is yet? cause I got a cousin flipping burgers that thinks he can coach too!
Hey DK.....Lockwood was garbage. This Addae kid hasn't even coached one game as a CB coach. We all know the real problem is Casteel but hey, let's get your cousin in the mix.
Back to the Casteel thing...the dude has had top 10 defenses in the past and has a good rep, once again he's not as well known as you, the "Salty Internet Guy", but I'll take his track record over yours any day.
You are picking and choosing your phrases and facts very cleverly, being the "Salty Internet Guy" that you are, but I don't see what your motivation is. Not building your business - being a jackass isn't good for business. Especially in the role you play as a mentor to these kids.
Just sayin....
Chicat wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Casteel coach from the sideline? Always thought it was better to have your O and D coordinators up in the booth where they can see the whole field, plus the television game feeds and use that birds-eye view to make adjustments on the fly. Hopefully the next guy we get is in the booth and relaying stuff down to the position coaches.
I think the question should be, is it possible that this was RR's own decision without any pressure. I think the answer to that is no. RR runs the program, but Byrne runs the AD and the boosters also have some say and some pressure. Everyone saw this coming and knew a change had to happen. Still, until recruiting changes significantly, it's all smoke and mirrors regardless of the scheme you run.azgreg wrote:Is it possible that this was mandated by GB?