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Gimino wrote:I guess I'm just a local guy who thinks this is a home-run hire (or, perhaps I should say, home-run hires).

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/30991766/gimino-arizona-makes-home-run-hire-with-defensive-coordinator-marcel-yates

3goggles wrote:Any word on the DL coach?

qwertyus wrote:

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

Is English your first language? Your posts are tough to read, for your information.

The question would always be if "insert coach" could get it done in the Pac 12. But, the bar set by Casteel is very low. And, the bar to succeed in the Pac 12 with RR's offense is also low. If he can get us to a 65th ranked defense, aka "average", we'll do very well in the conference.

cordera89 wrote:

qwertyus wrote:

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

Is English your first language? Your posts are tough to read, for your information.

The question would always be if "insert coach" could get it done in the Pac 12. But, the bar set by Casteel is very low. And, the bar to succeed in the Pac 12 with RR's offense is also low. If he can get us to a 65th ranked defense, aka "average", we'll do very well in the conference.

Tell me this, Is that your best insult of the day is my English. Dude listen, RR gambling on this hired based off his recruiting, It isn't a huge hired it more of what Newport Cats said Walk Off grand slam Hired. Now the competition level is going to be different in what he about to face. This isn't the, MW where his defense was kicking every team ass in., This is PAC 12. He going to be tested in first game and conference play. Ok how long do you think that will take for him to get us at Average Defense. I want a competitive Defense that doesn't get their collective asses handle too on a daily basic. If he cant put a good product on the field then their going to be problem. Unless he like god good at his position because I wouldn't brag about how good of a recruiter he is until the result are in. If he know how to developed talent then that should be his first step.

cordera89 wrote: Dude listen, RR gambling on this hired based off his recruiting, It isn't a huge hired it more of what Newport Cats said Walk Off grand slam Hired. Now the competition level is going to be different in what he about to face. This isn't the, MW where his defense was kicking every team ass in.

azpenguin wrote:Arizona gave up over 35 points a game last year. #60 was a bit over 27 points. You get in that range and Solomon puts up video game numbers.

catinfl wrote:One of the biggest problems with last year is we just weren't getting any turnovers. Well Yates did really well in that aspect at Boise and if he can keep it up extra possessions for the offense will help immensely and getting turnovers is a huge reason why we had a 10-2 season in 2014

Chicat wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

qwertyus wrote:

cordera89 wrote:So were going to run the 4-2-5 defense then. You know the media really need to stop hyping it up like he a big deal. Sure it a good hired plus he young guys stepping in the shoes of trying to rebuild or let just say remodel our current defense. Question is going to say can he get the job done in the Pac 12 and South Division, Let alone of what accomplish at Boise State against non inferior opponent.

Is English your first language? Your posts are tough to read, for your information.

The question would always be if "insert coach" could get it done in the Pac 12. But, the bar set by Casteel is very low. And, the bar to succeed in the Pac 12 with RR's offense is also low. If he can get us to a 65th ranked defense, aka "average", we'll do very well in the conference.

Tell me this, Is that your best insult of the day is my English. Dude listen, RR gambling on this hired based off his recruiting, It isn't a huge hired it more of what Newport Cats said Walk Off grand slam Hired. Now the competition level is going to be different in what he about to face. This isn't the, MW where his defense was kicking every team ass in., This is PAC 12. He going to be tested in first game and conference play. Ok how long do you think that will take for him to get us at Average Defense. I want a competitive Defense that doesn't get their collective asses handle too on a daily basic. If he cant put a good product on the field then their going to be problem. Unless he like god good at his position because I wouldn't brag about how good of a recruiter he is until the result are in. If he know how to developed talent then that should be his first step.

Your basically throwing a fit because they haven't already turned around our defense. To borrow a line from you, calm down. It is perfectly fine to be excited about how we've upgraded. If you're not fine with that, a college sports fan site might not be the place for you. Would you like directions to the YouTube comments section? That might be more your speed.

CalStateTempe wrote:This is a big boy hire.

The type that real football schools make; poach the guy with proven success at a smaller D-1 program and let him do his thing in a power 5 conference.

Certainly not on the same level, but Urban Meyer from Utah to Florida back in the day comes to mind as an example.

Great great hire.

Cordera clearly doesn't understand sarcasm given Newport's post. Maybe he's Shelton from BBT?

cordera89 wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:This is a big boy hire.

The type that real football schools make; poach the guy with proven success at a smaller D-1 program and let him do his thing in a power 5 conference.

Certainly not on the same level, but Urban Meyer from Utah to Florida back in the day comes to mind as an example.

Great great hire.

Cordera clearly doesn't understand sarcasm given Newport's post. Maybe he's Shelton from BBT?

Keep on making silly joke because I'm not laughing at it.

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, what kind of crack do you smoke? You want a new coach to come in and improve a shit defense on the first year? A majority of the issue from this years defense was due to playing guys that have no business starting in a D1 program. Not even Demi God Saban/Myles jack could coach that kind of talent to anything other than maybe a 99th ranked side of the ball. You know how Sean Miller wins as much as he does? He starts with talented guys and goes from there. Arizona football was trying to start with FCS players and get them to play up to a FBS level. Thats a huge hill and it seems like RR finally saw that you couldnt just have a number of coaches not recruiting and expect to get better. A lot of last years success was due to guys like Bondo et all who started with a decent amount of FBS talent and needed to just work a bit harded to get to that level.

Next year will be another stepping stone year, this is something that pays off in years 2-3, not year 0.

cordera89 wrote:

uacat540 wrote:The problem is going to come within few year if he can get in done on both coaching, development and recruiting in which many praising this coach on and on. I result not what he accomplish.

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, who would you rather have then? Give us a specific name.

CalStateTempe wrote:

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, who would you rather have then? Give us a specific name.

That is my next question too?

Who would you have preferred RR hire, to better address the "many years down the road" concerns you have?

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, who would you rather have then? Give us a specific name.

wyo-cat wrote:Donte's grinding.

I'm liking these hires more and more.

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, who would you rather have then? Give us a specific name.

cordera89 wrote:

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, who would you rather have then? Give us a specific name.

It not about who I rather have, it about who going to get the job done.

Harvey Specter wrote:

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, who would you rather have then? Give us a specific name.

Cordera bitched and moaned that we were not going to get rid of Casteel (most of us did, actually) - but he was alone in his perspective that we should not. How many times did he post or imply "No good/ attractive DC is going to come here, anyway"? That's been proven wrong, with a friggin' exclamation point!

Harvey It not about me that bitch and moan about this, we all bitch and moan that their was impossible chance that RR wasn't going to fired Casteel. Until that faithful day RR blindsided everyone that a lot of us didn't think was possible He fired Casteel. Yes I did say That not one DC wasn't going to come to Arizona giving RR past of hiring a DC whether or not he going to let them have full control. I don't have problem with RR hiring him as our DC, I'm just not going to say that this was a huge hired for us. It more of a step up. It wasn't about if that theory was proven. If this is RR choice, then I'm going to accept his choice that is it. He better deliver once the season start.

Boise State is a legit program... if they were in a power conference, we never would have gotten him. This is a very good opportunity for him, and it was a TERRIFIC hire for us. Look at the profile of other programs that have stolen coordinators from BSU over the last several years, and tell me again this was not a big-time grab.

He has some experience as a coordinator at 2 solid programs (he was 'co' at A&M)... There is no way he takes this job if it is to be RR's puppet. That was my biggest fear (yes I whined about it), I was DEAD wrong, and I am thrilled that I was.

Both these hires were great... I cannot wait to see who takes over the DL role. There is no way to guarantee that any hire will turn out the way you hope (short of Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, or Sean Miller).... but IMO this one will not be second guessed.

No one is going to accuse me of being all sun shine and lollipops when it comes to the FB program. I've criticized when I thought it was warranted, and I'll praise when I think it is deserved.

Praise is deserved.

cordera89 wrote:

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, who would you rather have then? Give us a specific name.

It not about who I rather have, it about who going to get the job done. In other thread I have stated some name that were Former DC and those names weren't probably going to get pick by RR if he ever contacted them and most like everyone else they had their own names of who they thought was going to be DC. Like I said plenty of times I got no problem with this hired, I'm just not excited like everyone is because I rather wait and see what he can do with our current defense.

CalStateTempe wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, who would you rather have then? Give us a specific name.

It not about who I rather have, it about who going to get the job done.

Like who?

cordera89 wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

uacat540 wrote:Cordera, who would you rather have then? Give us a specific name.

It not about who I rather have, it about who going to get the job done.

Like who?

Like who indeed. My choice were Ron English, Randy Shannon, Greg Mattison, Brady Hoke, Gene Chizik, Will Muschamp and some that media name on several article before he was ever mention. I wanted someone that can put a good product on the field. These guys were problably weren't going to get pick or mention.