TATE WAS GREATER, LATER: Tate was especially strong late in the season for Arizona in 2018..
Guess the writer missed the Territorial Cup debacle.
UA was also 2-2 the last 4 games, with Tate rushing for about 120 yards total those 4 games.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:58 am
by azgreg
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:02 pm
by azgreg
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:04 pm
by azgreg
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:09 pm
by ASUHATER!
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if the first couple of games we see 8-10 guys getting regular snaps at receiver since we really don't know what we have there.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:16 pm
by azcat49
No doubt the biggest mystery is at the wide receiver position. Do we have talent there? A couple of local guys who played other positions most of their career getting the starting job does not excel a Tom of confidence IMO
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:27 pm
by ASUHATER!
Only like 3 guys above 6'1" at receiver though.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:51 pm
by Carcassdragger
azgreg wrote:
The other thing that sticks out is how few Seniors we have starting (3 offense and 2 defense). This is a young team guys. I think we have a chance to surprise, but need to temper expectations.
RAP anyone?
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:17 pm
by btfd16
Carcassdragger wrote:
azgreg wrote:
The other thing that sticks out is how few Seniors we have starting (3 offense and 2 defense). This is a young team guys. I think we have a chance to surprise, but need to temper expectations.
RAP anyone?
This was the second thing I noticed (after finally some beef on the DL). I already am catching myself looking ahead to next year. Lol.
I am going to be honest, I am excited at the prospect of redshirting Gunnell. Just keep Khalil healthy and Rhett serviceable enough to only have Grant play 4 games. Could be huge in the long run.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:20 pm
by btfd16
How long into this game is it acceptable for me to wait before I first call for Mazzone to be fired? First drive?
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:08 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
btfd16 wrote:How long into this game is it acceptable for me to wait before I first call for Mazzone to be fired? First drive?
I'm not the biggest fan, so let's see how the first play turns out.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:55 pm
by azcat49
I don’t think the Sumlin era (and Mazzone) starts until Tate is out.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:55 am
by DrWildcat
azcat49 wrote:I don’t think the Sumlin era (and Mazzone) starts until Tate is out.
I kind of feel the same way. It was hard to put a ton of blame on Mazzone last year because Tate's decision making as a QB is terrible. With the late start to their first year, the staff's first recruiting class was just thrown together so hard to blame them for not getting a QB to challenge Tate (assuming Doyle is just a non factor at this point). Year 2 they get Gunnell, I really hope he can step in next year (if not this year) and put together a nice run as QB.
ESPN tonight had a small segment about Dick Tomey on Sportscenter regarding the game Saturday. Extremely cool and completely unexpected
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:37 pm
by whatisee
btfd16 wrote:I am terrified of this game and Cole McDonald.
SMH send our LB 's at him all game long. Our strength this year will be the D...watch
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:03 am
by azgreg
The closer we get to game time the more I'm thinking we're going to boat race these guys.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:51 am
by Merkin
whatisee wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I am terrified of this game and Cole McDonald.
SMH send our LB 's at him all game long. Our strength this year will be the D...watch
I am going to throw my foam brick at the TV if the Cats rush 3 and put 8 back in coverage on 3rd and long.
I don't know if Sumlin is a huge stats guy like Miller, but IIRC Cats were near last in the PAC on stopping 3rd and long.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:36 am
by threenumberones
whatisee wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I am terrified of this game and Cole McDonald.
SMH send our LB 's at him all game long. Our strength this year will be the D...watch
I am absolutely ready for this if true. About time we started creeping back towards the swarm..
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:42 am
by btfd16
whatisee wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I am terrified of this game and Cole McDonald.
SMH send our LB 's at him all game long. Our strength this year will be the D...watch
I will kiss you if we switch it up and send everyone. Hope so!
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:09 am
by PHXCATS
azgreg wrote:The closer we get to game time the more I'm thinking we're going to boat race these guys.
About 8 guys were walking the streets at 9pm last night in Waikiki. I wish they would have been studying their play book instead but cant blame them. Go Cats
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:31 pm
by scumdevils86
So much to unpack in this post
Machina casually mentioning this so we realize he's a *good fan* and is in Hawaii for the game.
Him yet again dictating what other people should be doing with their private free time 45 hours before the game with his aw shucks babe in the woods phrasing.
His little cheer at the end that is a punctuation to lazily wash over the previous garbage.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:17 pm
by PHXCATS
scumdevils86 wrote:So much to unpack in this post
Machina casually mentioning this so we realize he's a *good fan* and is in Hawaii for the game.
Him yet again dictating what other people should be doing with their private free time 45 hours before the game with his aw shucks babe in the woods phrasing.
His little cheer at the end that is a punctuation to lazily wash over the previous garbage.
I have said for years I would be here.
Your obsession with me know no limits. Pathetic. Get some help slugger
Brian J. Pedersen — Arizona wins 37-24
Gabe Encinas — Arizona wins 34-24
Scott Moran — Arizona wins 44-35
Ronnie Stoffle — Arizona wins 56-34
Adam Green — Arizona wins 42-34
Ryan Kelapire — Arizona wins 41-30
Brandon Combs — Arizona wins 49-28
Christian Mortensen — Arizona wins 38-28
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:19 pm
by Captain Obvious
Two of the worst defenses in college football on full display in this one. Should be lots of scoring. I think we will see Tate continue to struggle this season. I've said all along he's not a quarterback. I predict by game 3 or 4 he won't even be starting. Honestly I think McDonald is much more talented as a passer. Conventional wisdom has the Cats winning. That's what makes me skeptical. Hawaii 45 UA 38 sounds about right.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:21 pm
by UAEebs86
I bet you're tons of fun at parties C.O.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:28 pm
by azgreg
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:34 pm
by azgreg
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:45 am
by PieceOfMeat
Game Thread is up.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:59 pm
by azgreg
Some late money coming in on Hawaii. Line down to -10.5.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:25 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
azgreg wrote:Current line is Arizona -11 with the O/U at 70.5.
This feels like a game we lose. I'm sure part of that is that I feel like the life of an Arizona football fan is waiting for the disappointment to start, but away game, Hawaii, season opener...
It still does.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:24 pm
by sf25
Captain Obvious wrote:Two of the worst defenses in college football on full display in this one. Should be lots of scoring. I think we will see Tate continue to struggle this season. I've said all along he's not a quarterback. I predict by game 3 or 4 he won't even be starting. Honestly I think McDonald is much more talented as a passer. Conventional wisdom has the Cats winning. That's what makes me skeptical. Hawaii 45 UA 38 sounds about right.
Exact prediction. Wow.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:30 pm
by Carcassdragger
Carcassdragger wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Carcassdragger wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Carcassdragger wrote:Hawaii has 17 returning starters. Long night for us. Hawaii by a touchdown.
How many of those returners starters do you think would start for Arizona?
I would think most of em since they beat us soundly last year.
Wanna try that again?
Yeah I think so. Certainly they have some athletes and they are opening up at home.
The team from Arizona that played Houston last year would be hard pressed to beat anybody.
Again, Hawaii by 7. Hope I'm very wrong.
Props to myself. I'm incredible. ....and we suck again.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:32 pm
by Merkin
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:13 am
by IrishAzCat
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:15 am
by ChooChooCat
IrishAzCat wrote:
Someone smarter would've ran out of bounds before the clock ran out or at least followed his blocker right in front of him instead of cutting away from his blocker.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:41 am
by CalStateTempe
That the curse of Arizona athletics...decent but dumb players.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:51 am
by Merkin
IrishAzCat wrote:
Once Tate passed the LOS his WRs should have came out and blocked for him especially the trailing guys who caught up to Tate.
Tate saw the end zone, and that's all he saw.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:38 am
by KillerKlown
To bad he was hit while his body was turning. A little more square with the end line and probably would have been hit into the endzone.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:01 am
by Merkin
The "go for 2" debate would have been pretty interesting if Tate made it. Although I am pretty sure Sumlin would have had the PAT kicked and go into OT since the UA had momentum. The UH coach would have gone for 2 though since the UA couldn't stop anyone.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:55 pm
by PHXCATS
Really sucks but beat Texas Tech and it is all good
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:29 pm
by prh
If we hadn't burned a timeout on the 4th attempt for that late FG, there would have (theoretically) been about 25-30 seconds left after that final play.
Re: Arizona @ Hawaii discussion thread
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:31 pm
by prh
ChooChooCat wrote:
IrishAzCat wrote:
Someone smarter would've ran out of bounds before the clock ran out or at least followed his blocker right in front of him instead of cutting away from his blocker.
You mean someone who knows to throw the ball away instead of running out for a loss? haha
