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any update on this situation?

PieceOfMeat wrote:any update on this situation?

The only thing I've heard is Demetrice Martin has been interviewed and Tim DeRuyter has been offered.

I imagine any hot prospects are involved in bowl games and don't have time to interview and such, besides not wanting to get the word out until after their season ends.

So curious that Tim DeRuyter was offered when is while Cal is still playing, along with Cal having a better program in a pretty cool area to live.

azgreg wrote:

PieceOfMeat wrote:any update on this situation?

The only thing I've heard is Demetrice Martin has been interviewed and Tim DeRuyter has been offered.

Based on the situation at Arizona, I wouldn’t be surprised by Demetrius Martin being the new coordinator.

Why would Tim DeRuyter leave Cal for this team? This just doesn’t make sense to me.

Position coaches, head coaches, and Coordinators leave their teams before the bowl game all the time. Seems like an excuse to drag the process out to so they can use Arizona to get a raise.

Need to rename this thread “DC Tepid Board”.

OSUCat wrote:

azgreg wrote:

PieceOfMeat wrote:any update on this situation?

The only thing I've heard is Demetrice Martin has been interviewed and Tim DeRuyter has been offered.

Based on the situation at Arizona, I wouldn’t be surprised by Demetrius Martin being the new coordinator.

Why would Tim DeRuyter leave Cal for this team? This just doesn’t make sense to me.

Position coaches, head coaches, and Coordinators leave their teams before the bowl game all the time. Seems like an excuse to drag the process out to so they can use Arizona to get a raise.

Dave Heeke has sabotaged any chance at Arizona hiring a DC worth half a shit. Once that story came out public the only move Heeke could've made was to move on from Sumlin. Now he's trying to show support and stick with the guy. Bumbling fucking idiot.

ChooChooCat wrote:

OSUCat wrote:

azgreg wrote:

PieceOfMeat wrote:any update on this situation?

The only thing I've heard is Demetrice Martin has been interviewed and Tim DeRuyter has been offered.

Based on the situation at Arizona, I wouldn’t be surprised by Demetrius Martin being the new coordinator.

Why would Tim DeRuyter leave Cal for this team? This just doesn’t make sense to me.

Position coaches, head coaches, and Coordinators leave their teams before the bowl game all the time. Seems like an excuse to drag the process out to so they can use Arizona to get a raise.

Dave Heeke has sabotaged any chance at Arizona hiring a DC worth half a shit. Once that story came out public the only move Heeke could've made was to move on from Sumlin. Now he's trying to show support and stick with the guy. Bumbling fucking idiot.

No decent DC is coming here with Sumlin likely to be fired after next year.

Antonio Pierce is going to be ASU's new DC.

ChooChooCat wrote:Antonio Pierce is going to be ASU's new DC.

ChooChooCat wrote:Antonio Pierce is going to be ASU's new DC.

what exactly did we do to piss off antonio pierce so much?

PieceOfMeat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Antonio Pierce is going to be ASU's new DC.

what exactly did we do to piss off antonio pierce so much?

Not offer him a job at his alma mater?

Merkin wrote:

PieceOfMeat wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Antonio Pierce is going to be ASU's new DC.

what exactly did we do to piss off antonio pierce so much?

Not offer him a job at his alma mater?

Hit him up for a very large donation as soon as he got drafted and then didn’t make him feel like a valued alumni around the program.

ChooChooCat wrote:Antonio Pierce is going to be ASU's new DC.

For what it's worth, Burns and Gambo think DB coach Tony White has an equal or better chance to land the DC job. Has long history with Gonzalez. Did mention Pierce's recruiting might give him edge.
Also, said if White is chosen, ASU might risk losing Pierce.

Frustrating. First, we’ve never been a recruiting powerhouse in football that’s a given. You have a guy that bled red & blue until whatever unforeseen events pissed him off, but when defensive coaching positions have been available Antonio doesn’t get a sniff?

I can maybe understand if he’s coaching some shitty school that never produces D1 talent, but Long Beach fucking Poly? I guess swallowing some pride and making things right is too much to ask because a football powerhouse such as Arizona doesn’t need to bend over backwards in order to hire a good HS coach from such a crappy program like LBPoly......

Unbelievable.

Apparently there is a press conference scheduled for tomorrow at 2.

azgreg wrote:Apparently there is a press conference scheduled for tomorrow at 2.

I’m guessing someone that carries a bit of weight read my post and we announce at tomorrow’s PC that Antonio is coming home. A complimentary full body scrub and tug at Helga’s heavenly massage will be administered to remove the scum.

azgreg wrote:Apparently there is a press conference scheduled for tomorrow at 2.

An ASU or UA press conference?

ChooChooCat wrote:Antonio Pierce is going to be ASU's new DC.

White was named the new DC. Pierce was named assistant head coach.

Irish27 wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Antonio Pierce is going to be ASU's new DC.

White was named the new DC. Pierce was named assistant head coach.

Interesting. This seems like a way to get Pierce a raise to keep him happy because he brings in recruits but Herm didn't want to rely on him to be a coordinator.

DrWildcat wrote:

Irish27 wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:Antonio Pierce is going to be ASU's new DC.

White was named the new DC. Pierce was named assistant head coach.

Interesting. This seems like a way to get Pierce a raise to keep him happy because he brings in recruits but Herm didn't want to rely on him to be a coordinator.

Yeah surprising move. Every ASU fan I know thought it was going to be Pierce.

Todd Graham?

lol...this doesn’t fill the stands.

Arizona admin is so stupid sometimes.

Tatanka wrote:Todd Graham?

Graham? What is that a joke to trump Pierce? I guess if they fire Sumlin mid year they would have an ASSU reject with experience to take over. Maybe no one else would take it?

Paul Rhodes. Former Iowa State HC and Auburn DC.

Solid resume.

But can he recruit?

Meh. Defense at Iowa State

2009 33rd 21.8 ppg
2010 74th 28.8 ppg
2011 82nd 29.4 ppg
2012 38th 23.9 ppg
2013 109th 36 ppg
2014 118th 38.8 ppg
2015 97th 32.7 ppg

His record on defense is mediocre to awful.

Chicat wrote:Solid resume.

But can he recruit?

Yeah, now that I look at it, his resume isn’t actually all that solid. And it doesn’t look like he’s ever really had to recruit above our current level.

Eh, fuck it. Hopefully we’ll have an entirely new coaching staff in the next few years anyway.

Way to go. You took the defensive back coach at UCLA which was the only team in the PAC12 to give up more yards than Arizona and a member of a terrible defensive staff and made him OUR DC. What the F?

This is a very good hire. Not a home run hire, but a damn good hire.

Looking at stats only is an incredibly dumb way of judging this hire.

scumdevils86 wrote:Meh. Defense at Iowa State

2009 33rd 21.8 ppg
2010 74th 28.8 ppg
2011 82nd 29.4 ppg
2012 38th 23.9 ppg
2013 109th 36 ppg
2014 118th 38.8 ppg
2015 97th 32.7 ppg

He was of course the head coach at Iowa State from 2009-2015, not Defensive Coordinator. His record as the DC at Pittsburgh was exceptional.

PHXCATS wrote:This is a very good hire. Not a home run hire, but a damn good hire.

Looking at stats only is an incredibly dumb way of judging this hire.

How so, please explain? Not saying it’s not but not exactly doing cartwheels either. Curious as to what you think he brings

Whoops nevermind

azcat49 wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:This is a very good hire. Not a home run hire, but a damn good hire.

Looking at stats only is an incredibly dumb way of judging this hire.

How do, please explain? Not saying it’s not but not exactly doing cartwheels either. Curious as to what you think he brings

He has experience in major conferences as a DC and HC. Very solid on the fundamentals. His players love him. Great speeches. Good recruiter who knows Southern California.

Ok thx. Those are solid points. Hopefully he hits the recruiting trail and gets us some guys that he can win with

I thought he was on the retirement train. Our staff is mostly bad recruiters, though I think Rhoads didnt get enough credit for what he did. Our DB's werent very good and Im also not convinced it's not totally scheme as we played 10 yards off on 3rd and 3 a lot. He doesnt really have much recruiting ties in the west, but he's going to be a DC, not major recruiter either. He was in the back scenes more than the forefront at UCLA. He should have been DC over our current one, but he didnt come in as a friend of Chip's either

MrBug708 wrote:I thought he was on the retirement train.

He’s in Tucson, isn’t he?

Scheer seemed to say good things about him.
More commits from state of Arizona than the in state schools got. Per scheer.

Sounds like they kept it very secret until he walked into the presser.

Chicat wrote:

MrBug708 wrote:I thought he was on the retirement train.

He’s in Tucson, isn’t he?

Do what we do.

Chicat wrote:

MrBug708 wrote:I thought he was on the retirement train.

He’s in Tucson, isn’t he?

I just looked at his age, 52 only, so he's got some life left in him

MrBug708 wrote:I thought he was on the retirement train. Our staff is mostly bad recruiters, though I think Rhoads didnt get enough credit for what he did. Our DB's werent very good and Im also not convinced it's not totally scheme as we played 10 yards off on 3rd and 3 a lot. He doesnt really have much recruiting ties in the west, but he's going to be a DC, not major recruiter either. He was in the back scenes more than the forefront at UCLA. He should have been DC over our current one, but he didnt come in as a friend of Chip's either

With all that said he was still one of your top recruiters according to the numbers

I'm cool with this hire. Rhoads is a solid guy and a player's coach. Getting back to basics is what this team needs and having a former Big 12 HC on the coaching staff can't hurt for credibility with recruiting.

This is better than what I thought we'd get, IMHO. He's still hungry and wants to do well to maybe get another head coaching gig, He's only 52.

scumdevils86 wrote:Meh. Defense at Iowa State

2009 33rd 21.8 ppg
2010 74th 28.8 ppg
2011 82nd 29.4 ppg
2012 38th 23.9 ppg
2013 109th 36 ppg
2014 118th 38.8 ppg
2015 97th 32.7 ppg

He won 3 games or less those final 3 years and you can obviously pinpoint why.

Either way his head coaching experience provides an obvious interim head coach option for when Sumlin inevitably gets shitcanned.

whatisee wrote:

MrBug708 wrote:I thought he was on the retirement train. Our staff is mostly bad recruiters, though I think Rhoads didnt get enough credit for what he did. Our DB's werent very good and Im also not convinced it's not totally scheme as we played 10 yards off on 3rd and 3 a lot. He doesnt really have much recruiting ties in the west, but he's going to be a DC, not major recruiter either. He was in the back scenes more than the forefront at UCLA. He should have been DC over our current one, but he didnt come in as a friend of Chip's either

With all that said he was still one of your top recruiters according to the numbers

Well, we certainly brought in quantity in the defensive backfield. I like the kids he brought in