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Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:53 pm
by UAEebs86

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:56 pm
by wyo-cat
Wut??

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:44 pm
by Fishclamps
Hot damn

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:46 pm
by FreeSpiritCat
wyo-cat wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:56 pmWut??
It means there are 4 commitments coming.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:00 pm
by Fishclamps
I think it was more of a shocked at results "wut" not a confused one

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:36 pm
by wyo-cat
Fishclamps wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:00 pm I think it was more of a shocked at results "wut" not a confused one
Exactly!!

Just a few minutes ago it was 2.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:58 pm
by Fishclamps
Six!

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:12 am
by wyo-cat
Crazy.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:46 am
by dmjcat
We just got a crystal ball for one of the visitors so I assume he's one of the commits:

https://247sports.com/player/losipini-tupou-46134717/

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:01 am
by Fishclamps
Solid offer list

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:58 pm
by Fishclamps

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:20 pm
by wyo-cat
Brennan and the crew are really prioritizing AZ recruiting.

Bout time. Suck on it, Dilly.

#DeActivateTheValley

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:40 pm
by azcat49
That guy has a really nice offer list. Looks like a guy that could replace Stukes next year

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:45 pm
by MountainCat
Looks like we got another today. Allen Gant.

Scheer just announced. I just don’t know how to copy the tweet.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:46 pm
by UAEebs86

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:33 pm
by Chicat

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:44 pm
by dmjcat
https://247sports.com/Player/swayde-griffin-46146242/

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:01 pm
by Fishclamps
Damn, Tohi had some big boy offers

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:14 pm
by azcat49
How is Tohi not at least 4 stars with that offer list. Bama, LSU, USC, UCLA, Ole Miss, Auburn, Tennessee. My goodness, this is a great pick up

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:49 pm
by wyo-cat
The staff is raking.

It helps to have the top recruiters in the country, Noah and TMac and the rest of the guys around.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:04 am
by Fishclamps
Does football work the same way as basketball with stars? Like only the top 100 get to be 5 stars, then a set amount of 4s?

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:31 am
by pc in NM
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:04 am Does football work the same way as basketball with stars? Like only the top 100 get to be 5 stars, then a set amount of 4s?
https://www.ncsasports.org/articles-1/f ... g-rankings
College football recruiting rankings

The first step that football recruiting rankings sites take is awarding star ratings to players. They are rated at either two stars, three stars, four stars or five stars. For unknown reasons, no one-star ratings are revealed. Each of the football recruiting rankings news sites have their own formulas and opinions that are used when disseminating these star rankings, but the general idea behind how they are done is similar for all. With that said, many view that the most useful and informative are the composite rankings that 247 sports put out.

A five-star prospect is deemed to be amongst the top 30 players nationally, ones that are expected to immediately contribute as freshmen regardless of where they sign. That puts them in the top 0.01% of that recruiting class. They are also deemed to have the potential to post some incredible college football stats, be named first team All-American and ultimately be drafted in the first round of the NFL draft after their college careers have ended.

Four-star prospects comprise the rest of the top 300 or so players nationally. They are also expected to provide an immediate impact on their college teams and have potential for All-American status and professional careers, just not quite as likely as is expected to be the case for five-star prospects.

Those who have been rated at three stars by football recruiting rankings websites are generally viewed as expecting to be in the top 10% of incoming college players and are generally thought of being in the nation’s top 800 or so recruits. They are viewed as having the potential to be one of the best players in their region or in their conference. Pro potential is there as well.

Two-star players may not have much of an impact on top college rosters, but by even being on FBS (Football Bowl Subdivision) or FCS (Football Championship Subdivision) squads, they have proven themselves to be in the top 1% of high school players. Also, these players do sometimes surprise and become impact players at those schools. They also have more potential to be quality fits for FCS schools as well as the potential to be star players at NCAA Division II or III colleges or at NAIA schools.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:09 am
by Merkin
Always an outlier.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:40 am
by Fishclamps
Star ratings seem so stupid. So it cuts off at 300 but the next few hundred are probably just as good.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:58 am
by FreeSpiritCat

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:19 am
by 84Cat
FreeSpiritCat wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 10:58 am
https://247sports.com/Player/Kaleb-Jones-46128443/

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:45 am
by FreeSpiritCat
Something you should know about Kaleb Jones. He is super fast. He runs the 100yd is 12.4 seconds, and this is for a DL. It will be interesting to see if his speed picks up his senior year.

https://www.ahwatukee.com/sports/kaleb- ... f4c00.html

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:11 pm
by azcat49
Glad to see some young interior D Lineman in this class

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:13 pm
by FreeSpiritCat

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:37 pm
by FreeSpiritCat
Is anyone else dreaming just how good this class is going to be if they stick together? There is no doubt this has a lot to due with the quality of the coaching staff and the culture. The coaching staff knows how to evaluate talent and how the recruits fit into the scheme. Our coaching staff is severely underrated.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:56 pm
by Merkin
With NIl and the unlimited transfer rule now in effect, I really doubt too many will stay the full 4 years, 5 if they redshirt.

Especially with the big uglies who need time to beef up and up up to Div 1 strength and speed. Spend a couple of years developing them then they move on to greener pastures.

Obviously a different sport in terms of recruiting and impact players, but look at Lloyd letting incoming freshman go to get experienced players in the transfer portal.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:54 pm
by Fishclamps
Brennan and the staff are on fire this weekend

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:54 pm
by 84Cat
https://247sports.com/Player/javian-goo-46145638/

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:21 pm
by FreeSpiritCat
We have a 4th commit today. You can see it is a CB. But the name hasn't gone public yet.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:36 pm
by Fishclamps
I love that they're recruiting the shit out of Texas

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:45 pm
by azgreg
We've got goo!!!!!!!!!

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:46 pm
by azgreg
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Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:48 pm
by Carcassdragger
FreeSpiritCat wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:37 pm Is anyone else dreaming just how good this class is going to be if they stick together? There is no doubt this has a lot to due with the quality of the coaching staff and the culture. The coaching staff knows how to evaluate talent and how the recruits fit into the scheme. Our coaching staff is severely underrated.
Seems like we're getting some solid guys, but this class is a ways away from being special. Ratings matter and we need some 4 stars sprinkled in to make this a very good class.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:56 pm
by dmjcat
FreeSpiritCat wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:21 pm We have a 4th commit today. You can see it is a CB. But the name hasn't gone public yet.
Scheer put in a crystal ball for Gianni Edwards (CB for the UA)

https://247sports.com/college/arizona/S ... edictions/

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:58 pm
by Fishclamps

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:06 pm
by azcat49
Lots of high rated 3 star guys with very impressive offer sheets. The two OLinemen this week are really good and will be in the rotation early.

I would like to see some LB’s that can step in early. Manu won’t be here forever and we need a playmaker at that spot. The Robinson kid on defense is a great prospect. I hope we get these guys to signing day

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:23 pm
by Chicat
Carcassdragger wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:48 pm
FreeSpiritCat wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:37 pm Is anyone else dreaming just how good this class is going to be if they stick together? There is no doubt this has a lot to due with the quality of the coaching staff and the culture. The coaching staff knows how to evaluate talent and how the recruits fit into the scheme. Our coaching staff is severely underrated.
Seems like we're getting some solid guys, but this class is a ways away from being special. Ratings matter and we need some 4 stars sprinkled in to make this a very good class.
I don’t know that we have a top-500 guy yet.

Solid is great, but we need those next-level playmakers too.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:18 pm
by Irish27
We should wait until the high school football season is over to see if any of these recruits will climb or fall.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:27 pm
by wyo-cat
Good feedback from David Hinton, Dajon’s dad.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:37 pm
by Fishclamps
Chicat wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:23 pm
Carcassdragger wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:48 pm
FreeSpiritCat wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:37 pm Is anyone else dreaming just how good this class is going to be if they stick together? There is no doubt this has a lot to due with the quality of the coaching staff and the culture. The coaching staff knows how to evaluate talent and how the recruits fit into the scheme. Our coaching staff is severely underrated.
Seems like we're getting some solid guys, but this class is a ways away from being special. Ratings matter and we need some 4 stars sprinkled in to make this a very good class.
I don’t know that we have a top-500 guy yet.

Solid is great, but we need those next-level playmakers too.
Then we need a good season this year, and they will come.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:46 pm
by wyo-cat
Exactly.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:44 pm
by azgreg
You can't expect a first time P5 coach at school with a history of mostly mediocre football to pull in kids like Michigan does. I'm happy with what this staff has done so far with the 2025 class and in current roster retention.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:37 am
by CatsbyAZ
Faith established in this new staff's commitment to recruiting - good job guys.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:08 am
by TheCatInTheHat
Seems like there's a new normal. You need to deal with portal "free agency" first. And unless some players involved were absolute program-changing headliners or had amazing stats for a top P4 team, the "experts" can't really assess, other than referring back to their original assigned stars in their echo chamber. And their business revolves around rating high school players. It's a little like when a team went heavy on JCs, and the "experts" would shake their heads and say the coach is mortgaging his future, while somebody with a nice balanced high school class is doing it the "right" way. Only now, all those high school kids can transfer out and play immediately. So, with your transfers, you may not be able to put everything into having a high school player class nicely balanced at every position with a few four stars in the mix to make recruiting services and fans happy. Under the new rules, the future is now, which is fine with me, and possibly a better situation for UArizona. No more three or five year plans. Under these circumstances, it's a pretty good high school recruiting class as a core, which will no doubt be supplemented with more transfers in the future. In terms of the approach for this environment, it's nice to be out in front instead of our more typical history of being slow to adopt and having to play catch-up.

Re: 2025 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:39 am
by pc in NM
Chicat wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:23 pm
Carcassdragger wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:48 pm
FreeSpiritCat wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:37 pm Is anyone else dreaming just how good this class is going to be if they stick together? There is no doubt this has a lot to due with the quality of the coaching staff and the culture. The coaching staff knows how to evaluate talent and how the recruits fit into the scheme. Our coaching staff is severely underrated.
Seems like we're getting some solid guys, but this class is a ways away from being special. Ratings matter and we need some 4 stars sprinkled in to make this a very good class.
I don’t know that we have a top-500 guy yet.

Solid is great, but we need those next-level playmakers too.
This was new information to me - I don't pay much attention to FB recruiting, normally. Not sure if it's new to any of you more dedicated FB posters.

There is more discussion in the article - including transfers, clarification of the implications, etc. - take the link for all of it.
Blue-Chip Ratio 2024: These 16 college football teams can actually win the national championship

Breaking down the programs that have done well enough on the recruiting trail to win the first 12-team CFP in the 2024 season

By Bud Elliott

Which schools have recruited well enough to emerge as national champion in the 2024 season? To determine this, it's essential to understand the level of talent required to clinch college football's biggest prize, according to recent standards.

I set out to answer this question over a decade ago by creating the Blue-Chip Ratio.

Since its inception in 2013, the Blue-Chip Ratio has been referenced by all major broadcast networks and closely monitored by head coaches and administrators. It is also being featured in the EA Sports College Football video game revival. Although it's not the most complex calculation, it's an excellent method for identifying the top 10% of teams that realistically have a shot at winning the title.

In simple terms: To win the national championship, college football teams need to sign more four- and five-star recruits (AKA "Blue Chips") than two- and three-star players over the previous four recruiting classes.
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Recruiting rankings are not perfect, but they are damn good, especially in the aggregate. Four- and five-star recruits are about 10 times more likely to be drafted in the first round of the NFL Draft than their two- and three-star counterparts. And five-stars are about 33 times more likely to be All-Americans as two-stars. For every two-star who becomes a big success, there are multiples who will be going pro in something other than sports. And they are getting better annually due to advancements in technology and data.
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How has this stat performed in the past?

2023: Michigan won it all with a 54% mark.
2022: Georgia took home the title in dominant fashion with a 77% ratio.
2021: Georgia had an 80% BCR and won it all, beating the No. 1 BCR team, Alabama, in the title game. Three of the four CFP teams were BCR teams; Cincinnati was the first party crasher since 2017.
2020: Alabama had an 83% BCR and won it all. All four CFP teams were BCR schools.
2019: LSU won it with a 64% BCR. All four CFP teams were BCR schools.
2018: Clemson took it home with a 68% mark. All four CFP teams were BCR schools.
2017: Alabama won it all with an incredible 80% mark.
2016: Clemson took home the title after signing 52% blue chips in the 2013-16 classes.
2015: Alabama had a 77% mark.
2014: Ohio State won the title with a 68%.
2013: Florida State was at 53%.
2012: Alabama was at 71%.
2011: 'Bama won the first of its back-to-back titles ... also with a 71% mark.
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Enough talk, show me the list

Ohio State - 90%
Alabama - 88%
Georgia - 80%
Texas A&M - 79%
Oregon - 76%
Oklahoma - 73%
Texas - 72%
LSU - 70%
Notre Dame - 67%
Clemson - 64%
Florida - 63%
Miami - 61%
Penn State - 61%
USC - 59%
Michigan - 56%
Auburn - 53%

* I expect Florida State (49%) to join the list next year.
* No other team is even two foreseeable recruiting classes away from crashing the party.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... D=42827574