Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:18 pm
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Had my teenage boys watch this. Their response: "That kid is a genius!"the real dill wrote:http://fanbuzz.com/story/high-school-be ... sidelines/
Bear Down or Get Down! Fuck em! We will roll them both next year! On to the next one!CatsbyAZ wrote:Kind've a bum recruiting weekend - LB Thomas reaffirms his commit to ASU after mulling over UA & McClatcher commits to Washington after being a heavy UA lean.
So sick of Washington recruiting all of our commits.
My favorite part is when he's actually in the game and drops the pass. AwesomeCatstatic wrote:Had my teenage boys watch this. Their response: "That kid is a genius!"the real dill wrote:http://fanbuzz.com/story/high-school-be ... sidelines/
Go Cats!!
Meh...we have a plethora of short fast guys, so not so sad to see McClatcher go. To bad for Thomas...should be fun watching our O make a clown out of him for the next 4/5 years.CatsbyAZ wrote:Kind've a bum recruiting weekend - LB Thomas reaffirms his commit to ASU after mulling over UA & McClatcher commits to Washington after being a heavy UA lean.
So sick of Washington recruiting all of our commits.
What a waste!3goggles wrote:Looks like D. Young is a Cornhusker commit!
I'm not discouraged at all. I want 3 DE/DT's to fill our remaining spots. I'm more interested to see how we did with that 4* DT we had in this weekend3goggles wrote:I am a little discouraged right now that we cannot pull some of the kids of late. We are at an all-time high for this program and we are losing kids to UW, ASSU, NEB and possibly WAZZU. I just thought with our strong season and Scooby's stock raising it would've tanslated in recruiting!
Who do you really seeing us landing? R. Williams(MSU Hard Lean), JoJo Wicker(OU, UCLA Hard Lean), Fotu(UDUB Hard Lean). Its going to be very hard to land any of those kids listed. Whats the word on Brian Calhun from Deer Valley 3*. He is 6-7 260. Big Kid any skill to go with his size?whatisee wrote:I'm not discouraged at all. I want 3 DE/DT's to fill our remaining spots. I'm more interested to see how we did with that 4* DT we had in this weekend3goggles wrote:I am a little discouraged right now that we cannot pull some of the kids of late. We are at an all-time high for this program and we are losing kids to UW, ASSU, NEB and possibly WAZZU. I just thought with our strong season and Scooby's stock raising it would've tanslated in recruiting!
This past weekend is a letdown anyway you look at it.whatisee wrote:I'm not discouraged at all. I want 3 DE/DT's to fill our remaining spots. I'm more interested to see how we did with that 4* DT we had in this weekend3goggles wrote:I am a little discouraged right now that we cannot pull some of the kids of late. We are at an all-time high for this program and we are losing kids to UW, ASSU, NEB and possibly WAZZU. I just thought with our strong season and Scooby's stock raising it would've tanslated in recruiting!
Well we had Wicker on campus this weekend, so hopefully that went well. Not sure how we're doing with the rest of the guys, but i think it's still a little early to panic. Might be able to snag a transfer or two as well, so i'm going to stay patient3goggles wrote:Who do you really seeing us landing? R. Williams(MSU Hard Lean), JoJo Wicker(OU, UCLA Hard Lean), Fotu(UDUB Hard Lean). Its going to be very hard to land any of those kids listed. Whats the word on Brian Calhun from Deer Valley 3*. He is 6-7 260. Big Kid any skill to go with his size?whatisee wrote:I'm not discouraged at all. I want 3 DE/DT's to fill our remaining spots. I'm more interested to see how we did with that 4* DT we had in this weekend3goggles wrote:I am a little discouraged right now that we cannot pull some of the kids of late. We are at an all-time high for this program and we are losing kids to UW, ASSU, NEB and possibly WAZZU. I just thought with our strong season and Scooby's stock raising it would've tanslated in recruiting!
Thomas was already committed to the scum, so i don't look at that as a loss. Not to mention the LB corp is pretty solid next year. Which is why the AZ kid went to Nebraska to be a black shirt i imagine. That defense is worse than ours. And like i said before. We have enough 5'8" guys right now. We need DT/DE's. When we start losing all those guys color me worried.CatsbyAZ wrote:This past weekend is a letdown anyway you look at it.whatisee wrote:I'm not discouraged at all. I want 3 DE/DT's to fill our remaining spots. I'm more interested to see how we did with that 4* DT we had in this weekend3goggles wrote:I am a little discouraged right now that we cannot pull some of the kids of late. We are at an all-time high for this program and we are losing kids to UW, ASSU, NEB and possibly WAZZU. I just thought with our strong season and Scooby's stock raising it would've tanslated in recruiting!
-Loss of a highly talented LB. Worst part is he confirms commitment to our biggest rival.
-Loss of a long time UA lean who decides to stick around a down-trending UW program. Worst part is his motivation to academically qualify was in large part motivated by UA coaches.
-Now, the loss of a talented instate prospect who would've been a 3-4 year staple in the LB corps. Worst part is he goes to a Nebraska program where other AZ signees have flamed out - DL Avery Moss serving longterm suspensions and DL Peat unable to crack the two-deep.
Any one of these three prospects would've instantly been the 2nd highest rated commit (behind Keenan.) The argument isn't, well, it's just one recruit. It's the overall picture of in-aggregate losing out on what would comprise a reliable core of talent.
No panicing on my end being a little disappointed with the weekend is okay. I thought we had a good shot at Young and McClatcher. There are still plenty of kids to go after. Call me foolish to think with the week we had in the spotlight with all the award shows I thought it may sway those few kids our way.whatisee wrote:Well we had Wicker on campus this weekend, so hopefully that went well. Not sure how we're doing with the rest of the guys, but i think it's still a little early to panic. Might be able to snag a transfer or two as well, so i'm going to stay patient3goggles wrote:Who do you really seeing us landing? R. Williams(MSU Hard Lean), JoJo Wicker(OU, UCLA Hard Lean), Fotu(UDUB Hard Lean). Its going to be very hard to land any of those kids listed. Whats the word on Brian Calhun from Deer Valley 3*. He is 6-7 260. Big Kid any skill to go with his size?whatisee wrote:I'm not discouraged at all. I want 3 DE/DT's to fill our remaining spots. I'm more interested to see how we did with that 4* DT we had in this weekend3goggles wrote:I am a little discouraged right now that we cannot pull some of the kids of late. We are at an all-time high for this program and we are losing kids to UW, ASSU, NEB and possibly WAZZU. I just thought with our strong season and Scooby's stock raising it would've tanslated in recruiting!
Why is Calhoun not happening. I know nothing about him. Is he not skilled enough? Just Curious.catinfl wrote:McClatcher was never coming to Arizona. Dedrick is a hit, but I don't think it's a huge one. He's a player, but they're are other guys out there and I think that we'll end the class well regardless. Fotu isn't a UW lean.. Calhoun isn't happening.
so we are 33.34% with Fotu?catinfl wrote:McClatcher was never coming to Arizona. Dedrick is a hit, but I don't think it's a huge one. He's a player, but they're are other guys out there and I think that we'll end the class well regardless. Fotu isn't a UW lean.. Calhoun isn't happening.
Coaches pulled his offer a long time ago.3goggles wrote:Why is Calhoun not happening. I know nothing about him. Is he not skilled enough? Just Curious.catinfl wrote:McClatcher was never coming to Arizona. Dedrick is a hit, but I don't think it's a huge one. He's a player, but they're are other guys out there and I think that we'll end the class well regardless. Fotu isn't a UW lean.. Calhoun isn't happening.
cool good to know!catinfl wrote:Coaches pulled his offer a long time ago.3goggles wrote:Why is Calhoun not happening. I know nothing about him. Is he not skilled enough? Just Curious.catinfl wrote:McClatcher was never coming to Arizona. Dedrick is a hit, but I don't think it's a huge one. He's a player, but they're are other guys out there and I think that we'll end the class well regardless. Fotu isn't a UW lean.. Calhoun isn't happening.
Any chance that having McGinnis's teammate coming to UA will help us? What chance to you give us to bring him in?rickyk wrote:Fotu has been saying for weeks his top 3 were UW, AZ and Miss. State. The fact that he liked, but did not particularly love his trip to Seattle and cut it short to visit us can only be viewed as a positive. If we land him--he's supposedly signing on Wednesday (somewhere)--and Wicker, to go with McGinnis I will be thrilled.
Thats awesome to hear!catinfl wrote:Fotu left his trip early @UW to come to Arizona and was sitting right by RR at the basketball game.
UDUB is closing on ASSU with my current hate!!! Seriously FUCK UDUB!!!CatsbyAZ wrote:And it gets worse! Yes, blah, blah, blah, we've known for a while, but Ricky McCoy confirmed his commitment with Washington.
What happened with McCoy's recruiting anyway? Fresno has produced quality talent for the Pac 12 and we could've used another DT.
Washington continues to pillage UA targets and commits.
McCoy is a DE/TE not a DT and Arizona stopped recruiting him because he wanted to take other visits after committing. Standard RR move. Not a big loss.CatsbyAZ wrote:And it gets worse! Yes, blah, blah, blah, we've known for a while, but Ricky McCoy confirmed his commitment with Washington.
What happened with McCoy's recruiting anyway? Fresno has produced quality talent for the Pac 12 and we could've used another DT.
Washington continues to pillage UA targets and commits.
CatsbyAZ wrote:This past weekend is a letdown anyway you look at it.whatisee wrote:I'm not discouraged at all. I want 3 DE/DT's to fill our remaining spots. I'm more interested to see how we did with that 4* DT we had in this weekend3goggles wrote:I am a little discouraged right now that we cannot pull some of the kids of late. We are at an all-time high for this program and we are losing kids to UW, ASSU, NEB and possibly WAZZU. I just thought with our strong season and Scooby's stock raising it would've tanslated in recruiting!
-Loss of a highly talented LB. Worst part is he confirms commitment to our biggest rival.
-Loss of a long time UA lean who decides to stick around a down-trending UW program. Worst part is his motivation to academically qualify was in large part motivated by UA coaches.
-Now, the loss of a talented instate prospect who would've been a 3-4 year staple in the LB corps. Worst part is he goes to a Nebraska program where other AZ signees have flamed out - DL Avery Moss serving longterm suspensions and DL Peat unable to crack the two-deep.
Any one of these three prospects would've instantly been the 2nd highest rated commit (behind Keenan.) The argument isn't, well, it's just one recruit. It's the overall picture of in-aggregate losing out on what would comprise a reliable core of talent.
I think you need to pull your head out of your rose colored arse and take a deep breath.azcat49 wrote:OMG, the Debbie downer if AZ football has Spoken once again. No doubt we won't win at Wazzu or at Utah and we won't be favored after our OOC season is over. 6-6 will be a great season.
I think RR and staff know what there doing and they have a south crown and a BCS bowl game to prove it. I doubt it will be there last one with us
Yes Udub and Cal did happen.........and once again if you can't handle the truth that both wins were incrediblyazcat49 wrote:The fact is dick weed that did happen (UDUB and Cal) and this coaching staff did win 10 games and counting. The sky isn't falling like you think.
Sure we all want 5 star kids but we get who we get. Michigan is full of 4 and 5 star kids and they can't win crap.
RR is the best combo of coach and recruiter this school has seen. You haven't been right all year. Go root for ASSU if you like there class so much
If USC wasn't so lucky our kicker missed an easy FG and UCLA didn't have the fortune of playing against a very beat up Arizona, we are 12-1 and in the playoffs right now at worst or 13-0 as the no.1 if it weren't for Anu's ankle screwing us vs UO in the championship.dmjcat wrote:Yes Udub and Cal did happen.........and once again if you can't handle the truth that both wins were incrediblyazcat49 wrote:The fact is dick weed that did happen (UDUB and Cal) and this coaching staff did win 10 games and counting. The sky isn't falling like you think.
Sure we all want 5 star kids but we get who we get. Michigan is full of 4 and 5 star kids and they can't win crap.
RR is the best combo of coach and recruiter this school has seen. You haven't been right all year. Go root for ASSU if you like there class so much
LUCKY then i can't help you. Perhaps you should find another board to post on where everyone blindly agrees with you...........Dick Weed.
Let me know when style points count and "what if's" actually mean something?dmjcat wrote:I think you need to pull your head out of your rose colored arse and take a deep breath.azcat49 wrote:OMG, the Debbie downer if AZ football has Spoken once again. No doubt we won't win at Wazzu or at Utah and we won't be favored after our OOC season is over. 6-6 will be a great season.
I think RR and staff know what there doing and they have a south crown and a BCS bowl game to prove it. I doubt it will be there last one with us
If it were not for a Hail Mary miracle and a UDub coach stupid enough not to take a knee we finish with 8 wins (and thats not counting playing UO with 1/5th of their starting offensive line). We could just as easily be 7-5 without the LUCK we had this year. If you can't handle the truth then I can't help you.
Bottom line, we need to recruit better or SC/UCLA/UDub/UO (the teams that dominated us at the LOS) will continue to do so.
Yes, we did "get it done"................and there are at least a few Wildcat fans that have the brains to realize that we were LUCKY to "get it done". Pitiful existence???.........ROTFLMAO!!! I was on hand for both the Cal and UW games and cheered the Cats on to victory in both games. I had the good sense to realize, however, that we should have lost both games. I'm not a fan boy who thinks we are the 2nd coming of Alabama on the west coast.azcat49 wrote:Bottom line is we got it done and you were wrong all year long. You only come around to post your doom and gloom. It is a pitiful existence that you live in and those around you must be miserable.
I am sure you will take Boise St and post long and hard should they win.
eoe wrote:If USC wasn't so lucky our kicker missed an easy FG and UCLA didn't have the fortune of playing against a very beat up Arizona, we are 12-1 and in the playoffs right now at worst or 13-0 as the no.1 if it weren't for Anu's ankle screwing us vs UO in the championship.dmjcat wrote:Yes Udub and Cal did happen.........and once again if you can't handle the truth that both wins were incrediblyazcat49 wrote:The fact is dick weed that did happen (UDUB and Cal) and this coaching staff did win 10 games and counting. The sky isn't falling like you think.
Sure we all want 5 star kids but we get who we get. Michigan is full of 4 and 5 star kids and they can't win crap.
RR is the best combo of coach and recruiter this school has seen. You haven't been right all year. Go root for ASSU if you like there class so much
LUCKY then i can't help you. Perhaps you should find another board to post on where everyone blindly agrees with you...........Dick Weed.
Your stupidity knows no bounds my friend. Being objective means looking at everything, not just the events that fit your narrative.
That said, Rich Rod's recruiting has been terrible on paper. Somehow, we won 10 games with guys like Matthews at LBer, Zellers at NT (easily the most shocking), Tevis at Bandit, a litany of no names on the DLine, two freshman at DB, etc. Not sure how they have made it work, but it's incredibly impressive none-the-less.
Wow!! That's some crazy stuff right there. Is that it? That's the story?dmjcat wrote:Back to recruiting.........which is the point of this thread.
I realize that coaches are slit-throat when it comes to recruiting but I have to wonder what sleaze-ball coaches spoke with McCoy.
http://washington.scout.com/story/14924 ... o-uw?s=147
Specifically I am referring to this quote:
"After I had committed to come play tight end, when I talked to some other coaches they let me know that (UA) were signing other tight ends as well," said McCoy. "This doesn't sound right; maybe they want to switch my position? I had no idea. After that, I decided to start looking around and got some new offers."
Not the point whatsoever. Stay with me here, the fact that you tout yourself as an objective observer and 49 as a biased, rose-colored glasses owning fan is fucking asinine. You can't on one hand rattle off games that went our way, while completely ignoring games where extrinsic factors and poor luck doomed us.dmjcat wrote:eoe wrote:If USC wasn't so lucky our kicker missed an easy FG and UCLA didn't have the fortune of playing against a very beat up Arizona, we are 12-1 and in the playoffs right now at worst or 13-0 as the no.1 if it weren't for Anu's ankle screwing us vs UO in the championship.dmjcat wrote:Yes Udub and Cal did happen.........and once again if you can't handle the truth that both wins were incrediblyazcat49 wrote:The fact is dick weed that did happen (UDUB and Cal) and this coaching staff did win 10 games and counting. The sky isn't falling like you think.
Sure we all want 5 star kids but we get who we get. Michigan is full of 4 and 5 star kids and they can't win crap.
RR is the best combo of coach and recruiter this school has seen. You haven't been right all year. Go root for ASSU if you like there class so much
LUCKY then i can't help you. Perhaps you should find another board to post on where everyone blindly agrees with you...........Dick Weed.
Your stupidity knows no bounds my friend. Being objective means looking at everything, not just the events that fit your narrative.
That said, Rich Rod's recruiting has been terrible on paper. Somehow, we won 10 games with guys like Matthews at LBer, Zellers at NT (easily the most shocking), Tevis at Bandit, a litany of no names on the DLine, two freshman at DB, etc. Not sure how they have made it work, but it's incredibly impressive none-the-less.
Objective???? Suuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeee. Objectively, I'm sure that RRod planned all along to win the Cal game on a one in a thousand Hail Mary pass. And I'm sure that RRod "objectively" planned to recover a fumble against a UW squad that could have simply taken a knee and won the game.
ROTFLMAO!!!
Dmj, you're way out there. 'OMG, RichRod is recruiting another kid at my position? And he TOLD me about it? What a sleaze ball!'dmjcat wrote:Back to recruiting.........which is the point of this thread.
I realize that coaches are slit-throat when it comes to recruiting but I have to wonder what sleaze-ball coaches spoke with McCoy.
http://washington.scout.com/story/14924 ... o-uw?s=147
Specifically I am referring to this quote:
"After I had committed to come play tight end, when I talked to some other coaches they let me know that (UA) were signing other tight ends as well," said McCoy. "This doesn't sound right; maybe they want to switch my position? I had no idea. After that, I decided to start looking around and got some new offers."
Oh sh*t, we are doomed as you havn't been right all year. Hopefully this time you are.dmjcat wrote:Yes, we did "get it done"................and there are at least a few Wildcat fans that have the brains to realize that we were LUCKY to "get it done". Pitiful existence???.........ROTFLMAO!!! I was on hand for both the Cal and UW games and cheered the Cats on to victory in both games. I had the good sense to realize, however, that we should have lost both games. I'm not a fan boy who thinks we are the 2nd coming of Alabama on the west coast.azcat49 wrote:Bottom line is we got it done and you were wrong all year long. You only come around to post your doom and gloom. It is a pitiful existence that you live in and those around you must be miserable.
I am sure you will take Boise St and post long and hard should they win.
By they way, I think we will beat Boise State.
1995 Nebraska team. One of the greatest of all-time.Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:I have yet to witness a championship run in which the championship contenders do not have at least a few lucky breaks go their way. Its the nature of the game. Can anyone recall a championship team that completely dominated every game of a season/post season? I am not sure it has ever happened.
Fixed that for you. They trailed once all year long. Averaged 400 yards rushing and opponents averaged 72. Average margin of victory was 38 points. There's so many mind-boggling stats about that team (example, allowed 5 punt returns all year for a total of 12 yards), but I don't think we'll ever see a team that dominant again.Irish27 wrote:1995 Nebraska team. The greatest of all-time.Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:I have yet to witness a championship run in which the championship contenders do not have at least a few lucky breaks go their way. Its the nature of the game. Can anyone recall a championship team that completely dominated every game of a season/post season? I am not sure it has ever happened.