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Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:53 pm
by CatsbyAZ
UALoco wrote:So what is the general consensus on how well RR and team has done so far with this recruiting class?
It's underwhelming and unambitious.

However, if everyone stays in the program and steadily develops it can be better than the sum of its parts.

I'd rather reel in hosts of 3 stars that slowly develop and coalesce over 4 or 5 years (like Iowa's classes) than sign a host of 4 star flame outs that underachieve and contribute nothing to the program (Texas A&M's classes under Sumlin).

It'd be nice to supplement this 3 star corps with some gamebreaking 4 stars.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:57 pm
by azcat49
as an example of a 4 star game breaker, Kahlil Tate and Kadeem Carey as opposed to Cobb and Ware and we could add Cam Denson to tht list which would be long

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:26 pm
by chiefzona
UAEebs86 wrote:The assistant coach I knew at Cienega left but my son works at Cienega/played for the previous staff and knows a few of the current coaches so I'll see if I can get an update on Joiner. Last he was told Jamarye was considering changing positions to WR (and later it was reported in local media he wants to run track and doesn't think he can do that and play QB) and he was looking at ASU and a few other schools (Oregon?).

He gone.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:24 am
by UALoco
chiefzona wrote:Underwhelming class and apropos for RR’s last class.
This looks like a "throwback" post from last year. Nice touch.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:41 am
by chiefzona
UALoco wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Underwhelming class and apropos for RR’s last class.
This looks like a "throwback" post from last year. Nice touch.

Rich Rod should be pulling way better classes than he has since day 1 of his tenure at Arizona. Come on now. This is year 6 and even his most ardent backers know of his mediocrity on the recruiting front.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:36 am
by HaCats
Chief was year is this for RichRod again??? I'm confused, as you only state this in about 80% of your thousands of posts.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:40 am
by UAEebs86
LMAO at chief in the other thread saying he has to tone it down here so the pundits don't steal his info, but he lets it all out on Twitter.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:58 am
by chiefzona
HaCats wrote:Chief was year is this for RichRod again??? I'm confused, as you only state this in about 80% of your thousands of posts.

I'm confused about this post. Enlighten me.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:29 am
by UAEebs86
chiefzona wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:The assistant coach I knew at Cienega left but my son works at Cienega/played for the previous staff and knows a few of the current coaches so I'll see if I can get an update on Joiner. Last he was told Jamarye was considering changing positions to WR (and later it was reported in local media he wants to run track and doesn't think he can do that and play QB) and he was looking at ASU and a few other schools (Oregon?).

He gone.

Talked to my son. FWIW, things seem to have changed. He said that even though Joiner didn't sign in the early period, he intends to stick with Arizona, and has decided to stick with QB as his position. He also said Jamarye changed his Instagram to say Arizona commit around early signing day and also quit wearing other school's gear and is wearing just UofA gear these days. Wants to stay in his hometown.

We'll see if my inside info or chief's is better. ;)

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:28 pm
by chiefzona
UAEebs86 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:The assistant coach I knew at Cienega left but my son works at Cienega/played for the previous staff and knows a few of the current coaches so I'll see if I can get an update on Joiner. Last he was told Jamarye was considering changing positions to WR (and later it was reported in local media he wants to run track and doesn't think he can do that and play QB) and he was looking at ASU and a few other schools (Oregon?).

He gone.

Talked to my son. FWIW, things seem to have changed. He said that even though Joiner didn't sign in the early period, he intends to stick with Arizona, and has decided to stick with QB as his position. He also said Jamarye changed his Instagram to say Arizona commit around early signing day and also quit wearing other school's gear and is wearing just UofA gear these days. Wants to stay in his hometown.

We'll see if my inside info or chief's is better. ;)
I said that to get a certain expert’s goat who is in love with JJ. Only way JJ jumps is if he gets a late offer. He’s like Tate was in his recruitment.....he will only go where they want him as a QB. If Sumlin got the ASU job, JJ would’ve jumped like a cricket on a hot stove.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:36 pm
by azcat49
Back track much. Such a load of sh*t. Cool story bro

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:39 pm
by chiefzona
azcat49 wrote:Back track much. Such a load of sh*t. Cool story bro

Merry Christmas buddy. I could care less about JJ. He’s a glorified RB who wasn’t good enough to beat out TB for Tucson Turf so he had to play receiver. Which he did well.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:00 pm
by SoutherAZ
Tool!

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:20 am
by ramcat
Like the additions to the trenches, TE's, LB and overall size.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruitin ... s-unsigned" target="_blank

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:43 pm
by whatisee
Apparently we’re not done offering. Another big ugly

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:44 pm
by dmjcat
It appears that we are still pursuing size on the DL. Don't know if we are still pursuing this fellow, but he appears to be of higher caliber than the other JC DT we signed.

https://247sports.com/Player/Isaiah-Johnson-37968" target="_blank

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:17 pm
by whatisee
https://247sports.com/player/doug-johnson-45572583" target="_blank

Offered another OT according to Moreno. New OL coach doing some work.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:02 pm
by chiefzona
He gone.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:07 pm
by MountainCat
chiefzona wrote:He gone.
Who gone?

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:11 pm
by UAEebs86
I am guessing chief is referring to this:



Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:37 pm
by dmjcat
5 Day Weather forecast for Lincoln, Nebraska

https://weather.com/weather/5day/l/USNE0283:1:US" target="_blank

Hope he likes freezing his arse off :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:08 pm
by ramcat
Purportedly Jamarye is not a cold weather guy, would much prefer warm weather school. Just saying...

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruitin ... nsive-line" target="_blank

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:02 am
by cordera89
Nebraska can have him, Joiner has prove he doesn't want to come to UA. The whole weather talk is just complete BS.

If Joiner really wanted to play for UA? He should of commit early but instead he waiting on next big offer come his way & Nebraska it.

Move on and recruit another QB prospects.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:12 am
by ramcat
Actually, the whole weather thing is not BS. Could he still head to Neb? Sure but has said he'd much prefer warm climate schools.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:38 am
by KillerKlown
cordera89 wrote:Nebraska can have him, Joiner has prove he doesn't want to come to UA. The whole weather talk is just complete BS.

If Joiner really wanted to play for UA? He should of commit early but instead he waiting on next big offer come his way & Nebraska it.

Move on and recruit another QB prospects.
We had zero legit qbs last class. We can't afford zero qbs two years in a row as a P5 school. He was never going to sigh in December. We've know that for almost a year already.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:46 am
by Chicat
We should be out recruiting every QB with a pulse right now.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:48 am
by ChooChooCat
If Joiner does bail on Arizona then Rich Rod would've had 3 QB commits bail on him in consecutive classes (Modster, Burmeister, & Joiner). That is just not going to get it done at any level ever.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:59 am
by chiefzona
Chicat wrote:We should be out recruiting every QB with a pulse right now.

:lol:

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:46 am
by UAEebs86
ChooChooCat wrote:If Joiner does bail on Arizona then Rich Rod would've had 3 QB commits bail on him in consecutive classes (Modster, Burmeister, & Joiner). That is just not going to get it done at any level ever.

Does Shea Patterson make it 4 for 4?

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:53 am
by prh
UAEebs86 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:If Joiner does bail on Arizona then Rich Rod would've had 3 QB commits bail on him in consecutive classes (Modster, Burmeister, & Joiner). That is just not going to get it done at any level ever.

Does Shea Patterson make it 4 for 4?
Patterson was same class as Modster (2016) but I thought he decommitted well before Modster did, if that counts.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:09 am
by cordera89
KillerKlown wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Nebraska can have him, Joiner has prove he doesn't want to come to UA. The whole weather talk is just complete BS.

If Joiner really wanted to play for UA? He should of commit early but instead he waiting on next big offer come his way & Nebraska it.

Move on and recruit another QB prospects.
We had zero legit qbs last class. We can't afford zero qbs two years in a row as a P5 school. He was never going to sigh in December. We've know that for almost a year already.
Then it simple, If Joiner decide to go Nebraska over UA? Move on and recruit another QB prospect! It not that difficult to cut the lost and recruit another one, Either it from Transfer QB, JUCO QB or QB prospect that haven't commit yet. Pick your poison.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:15 am
by KillerKlown
cordera89 wrote:
KillerKlown wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Nebraska can have him, Joiner has prove he doesn't want to come to UA. The whole weather talk is just complete BS.

If Joiner really wanted to play for UA? He should of commit early but instead he waiting on next big offer come his way & Nebraska it.

Move on and recruit another QB prospects.
We had zero legit qbs last class. We can't afford zero qbs two years in a row as a P5 school. He was never going to sigh in December. We've know that for almost a year already.
Then it simple, If Joiner decide to go Nebraska over UA? Move on and recruit another QB prospect! It not that difficult to cut the lost and recruit another one, Either it from Transfer QB, JUCO QB or QB prospect that haven't commit yet. Pick your poison.
Are any of those legit Pac12 caliber qbs? And if they are what are our chance of getting one this late in the recruiting season?

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:18 am
by KillerKlown
KillerKlown wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
KillerKlown wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Nebraska can have him, Joiner has prove he doesn't want to come to UA. The whole weather talk is just complete BS.

If Joiner really wanted to play for UA? He should of commit early but instead he waiting on next big offer come his way & Nebraska it.

Move on and recruit another QB prospects.
We had zero legit qbs last class. We can't afford zero qbs two years in a row as a P5 school. He was never going to sigh in December. We've know that for almost a year already.
Then it simple, If Joiner decide to go Nebraska over UA? Move on and recruit another QB prospect! It not that difficult to cut the lost and recruit another one, Either it from Transfer QB, JUCO QB or QB prospect that haven't commit yet. Pick your poison.
Are any of those legit Pac12 caliber qbs? And if they are what are our chance of getting one this late in the recruiting season?
Are any of those even backup caliber qbs?

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:20 pm
by cordera89
KillerKlown wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
KillerKlown wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Nebraska can have him, Joiner has prove he doesn't want to come to UA. The whole weather talk is just complete BS.

If Joiner really wanted to play for UA? He should of commit early but instead he waiting on next big offer come his way & Nebraska it.

Move on and recruit another QB prospects.
We had zero legit qbs last class. We can't afford zero qbs two years in a row as a P5 school. He was never going to sigh in December. We've know that for almost a year already.
Then it simple, If Joiner decide to go Nebraska over UA? Move on and recruit another QB prospect! It not that difficult to cut the lost and recruit another one, Either it from Transfer QB, JUCO QB or QB prospect that haven't commit yet. Pick your poison.
Are any of those legit Pac12 caliber qbs? And if they are what are our chance of getting one this late in the recruiting season?
Like I said We either take a Transfer or JUCO QB with experience or We try to steal James Foster in which hasn't committed yet? If not Then we settle for other QB Prospect in recruiting broad that haven't sign yet. If any of these does not happen. Then we minus well just Convince Dawkins to stay put or Develop Rhett Rod and Lane to be Tate Number 2. What chances do you really want to take other than they have to be PAC 12 Legit?

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:54 pm
by KillerKlown
cordera89 wrote:
KillerKlown wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
KillerKlown wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Nebraska can have him, Joiner has prove he doesn't want to come to UA. The whole weather talk is just complete BS.

If Joiner really wanted to play for UA? He should of commit early but instead he waiting on next big offer come his way & Nebraska it.

Move on and recruit another QB prospects.
We had zero legit qbs last class. We can't afford zero qbs two years in a row as a P5 school. He was never going to sigh in December. We've know that for almost a year already.
Then it simple, If Joiner decide to go Nebraska over UA? Move on and recruit another QB prospect! It not that difficult to cut the lost and recruit another one, Either it from Transfer QB, JUCO QB or QB prospect that haven't commit yet. Pick your poison.
Are any of those legit Pac12 caliber qbs? And if they are what are our chance of getting one this late in the recruiting season?
Like I said We either take a Transfer or JUCO QB with experience or We try to steal James Foster in which hasn't committed yet? If not Then we settle for other QB Prospect in recruiting broad that haven't sign yet. If any of these does not happen. Then we minus well just Convince Dawkins to stay put or Develop Rhett Rod and Lane to be Tate Number 2. What chances do you really want to take other than they have to be PAC 12 Legit?
We need a qb like Joiner to develope under Tate. Joiner is the perfect prospect for it in my opinion. They are not a dime a dozen. We can't just go out and pick one up out the street. If we need to convince Dawkins who was arguably the worst qb in the league to stay and help us then that's a very bad sign. Nothing more to it.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:21 pm
by chiefzona
Joiner isn’t a QB. He’s a slot receiver. They need to start recruiting real QBs.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:56 pm
by ChooChooCat
chiefzona wrote:Joiner isn’t a QB. He’s a slot receiver. They need to start recruiting real QBs.
Agreed.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:21 pm
by whatisee
Related to PJ...and PJ did mention he was bringing someone with him

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:53 pm
by MrBug708
I guess Arizona will be the battleground of a fired coach after LOI day

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:19 pm
by Chicat

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:31 pm
by chiefzona
Joiner is gonna jump.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:36 pm
by btfd16
chiefzona wrote:Joiner is gonna jump.
Didn't you say he was going to anyway?

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:50 pm
by chiefzona
btfd16 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Joiner is gonna jump.
Didn't you say he was going to anyway?

Yep. Pretty cool, huh?

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:56 pm
by btfd16
chiefzona wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Joiner is gonna jump.
Didn't you say he was going to anyway?

Yep. Pretty cool, huh?
Super! Make those pundits heads spin brother.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:16 pm
by chiefzona
btfd16 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Joiner is gonna jump.
Didn't you say he was going to anyway?

Yep. Pretty cool, huh?
Super! Make those pundits heads spin brother.

You guys do that. Y’all make me shine.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:45 pm
by UAEebs86
chiefzona wrote:Joiner is gonna jump.

Not necessarily. He wasn't a big RR fan to begin with. It will depend on the next coach.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:10 am
by az91
chiefzona wrote:Joiner is gonna jump.
I saw somewhere that he is waiting for an offer from Alabama. Is he really Alabama good?

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:35 am
by chiefzona
az91 wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Joiner is gonna jump.
I saw somewhere that he is waiting for an offer from Alabama. Is he really Alabama good?

Not in my opinion. He is visiting there though.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:49 am
by chiefzona
UCF’s Josh Heupel is now interested in Joiner.

Re: 2018 Recruit/Commitment Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:53 am
by UALoco
A HC hire will change everything, until then, everything is temporary.