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Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:56 pm
by The Ooh Aah Man
Abrahamarvel wrote:What happened to Holiday? Thought he could be good, but a little too small maybe?
Was hampered by an injury most of the year. Played a little. When healthy he's pretty good.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:01 pm
by The Ooh Aah Man
Footballjunkie wrote:Do the recruits ever get re-evaluated by the services?
What I am asking is if I am a "Two Star" in my Junior year of HS am I always going to be a two star?

What if I lead the state and Nation in TD's, tackles, or Interceptions my Senior year because my Jr year in HS I was injured or just learning the game.
I mean if RichRod, Michigan, Florida, USC, Washington, and Alabama are recruiting me, doesn't my number of "stars" change?

Also, will any of our current recruits get an additional star since the HS seasons are over.
I think one of our recruits lead his team to the LA state title and was the Player of the year (POY).

Its a crime if he isn't going to get another star, making him a 4 star?
Unfortunately, most of the stars come from a player's junior year. And even those ranking usually reflect how many camps the kid went to and how they performed at the given recruiting service's camps. Lots of kids can't afford to go to the camps or have other things going on, and that's when the recruiting services miss on rankings in my opinion. If a kid doesn't go to camps, they are rarely rated highly. They do reevaluate, but rarely does a senior three star go to a four star just because he had a good season.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:25 pm
by MrBug708
Footballjunkie wrote:Do the recruits ever get re-evaluated by the services?
What I am asking is if I am a "Two Star" in my Junior year of HS am I always going to be a two star?

What if I lead the state and Nation in TD's, tackles, or Interceptions my Senior year because my Jr year in HS I was injured or just learning the game.
I mean if RichRod, Michigan, Florida, USC, Washington, and Alabama are recruiting me, doesn't my number of "stars" change?

Also, will any of our current recruits get an additional star since the HS seasons are over.
I think one of our recruits lead his team to the LA state title and was the Player of the year (POY).

Its a crime if he isn't going to get another star, making him a 4 star?
Yup. All the time. But just because they do well in a season and on a team doesnt always mean they should be 3/4/5 stars either. It's a balance between current ability and ability to morph into a college player as well. Like with the draft, it's a pretty inexact science.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:58 am
by Newportcat
Not a great video of our star recruit getting blown up during the UA All American practices

https://vine.co/v/OwA36wE1PHt

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:04 am
by Puerco
Newportcat wrote:Not a great video of our star recruit getting blown up during the UA All American practices

https://vine.co/v/OwA36wE1PHt

By the #1 DL prospect in all the land no less...

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:19 am
by Chicat
Bad footwork. That can definitely be corrected.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:21 am
by ANGCatFan

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:37 am
by 3goggles
ANGCatFan wrote:
Great! Fuck these all star games!!!

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:39 am
by Newportcat
Apparently Keenan was walking around and appeared fine about an hour later

Bad footwork no doubt and why can't we ever land DLineman like that guy

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:40 am
by 3goggles
Newportcat wrote:Apparently Keenan was walking around and appeared fine about an hour later

Bad footwork no doubt and why can't we ever land DLineman like that guy
Was it KM that blew him up?

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:01 am
by Footballjunkie
Looks like we have two open slots and its about a month away from signing day.

Who are the last two spots for? who is waiting until the last minute?

I know its tricky sometimes b/c I went to HS with a guy that wanted to go to ND but his dad wanted him to go to Michigan because his boss was a "big" MI donor.
Dads choice won because his job threatened to fire him if my teammate didn't sign with Michigan.

Every time I hear that a recruit can't decide, I think of him.
Do we need our "donors" to assure some recruits parent that they will not lose their job if a recruit signs with us?

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:10 am
by whatisee
we have 3 to 5 slots actually, and i think the current focus is on Reid, Wicker, McGinnis, and Holiday. Maybe a senior transfer or 2? Let's see what shakes out. Lot's of time left

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:20 am
by HaCats
What's Reid's first name? Keep seeing his last name but don't know who is........

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:52 am
by UAEebs86
HaCats wrote:What's Reid's first name? Keep seeing his last name but don't know who is........
Gabe

I think this is him:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/r ... eid-157431

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:06 pm
by rickyk
Is the Holiday you are talking about Justin's cousin from San Diego? I seriously doubt he is coming here and I doubt he even visits. He's pretty much been the second coming of Tezino when it comes to his interest in UA.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:22 pm
by MrBug708
Dechaun Holiday is the cousin of Arizona's Devin Holiday. I think the consensus is UCLA

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:34 pm
by catinfl
MrBug708 wrote:Dechaun Holiday is the cousin of Arizona's Devin Holiday. I think the consensus is UCLA
Holiday hasn't really ever gave us the time of day. He's a talent for sure.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:35 pm
by catinfl
This is why we want Gabe Reid. Absolute beast and can get to the passer.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/661543/highlights/207934402

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:15 pm
by whatisee
catinfl wrote:This is why we want Gabe Reid. Absolute beast and can get to the passer.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/661543/highlights/207934402
I watched less than 45 seconds. I'm sold. Kid has a motor...kinda like Scooby

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:03 pm
by 3goggles
catinfl wrote:This is why we want Gabe Reid. Absolute beast and can get to the passer.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/661543/highlights/207934402
But can we land him though?

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:05 pm
by catinfl
3goggles wrote:
catinfl wrote:This is why we want Gabe Reid. Absolute beast and can get to the passer.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/661543/highlights/207934402
But can we land him though?
Stanford is in the lead he values academics. If we get him on campus I think we'd have a good shot. They're making a push for Reid.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:22 pm
by Scummy Dick Douglas
catinfl wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Dechaun Holiday is the cousin of Arizona's Devin Holiday. I think the consensus is UCLA
Holiday hasn't really ever gave us the time of day. He's a talent for sure.
Dechaun Holiday has a top four of ASU, UCLA, USC, and UW. Looking at his Rivals profile he only has an official visit listed for ASU on Jan 16th. I assume he has been to UCLA and USC in some capacity at this point though.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:16 pm
by catinfl
Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:
catinfl wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Dechaun Holiday is the cousin of Arizona's Devin Holiday. I think the consensus is UCLA
Holiday hasn't really ever gave us the time of day. He's a talent for sure.
Dechaun Holiday has a top four of ASU, UCLA, USC, and UW. Looking at his Rivals profile he only has an official visit listed for ASU on Jan 16th. I assume he has been to UCLA and USC in some capacity at this point though.
He's not going to asu so don't get your hopes up.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:07 pm
by dmjcat
Take Wicker off the board:

Wicker down to UCLA/TTech and the scum

http://redraiders.com/filed-online/2015 ... -top-three

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:30 pm
by UAEebs86

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:27 pm
by catinfl
UAEebs86 wrote:
Marlon Gonzales

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:13 pm
by 3goggles
dmjcat wrote:Take Wicker off the board:

Wicker down to UCLA/TTech and the scum

http://redraiders.com/filed-online/2015 ... -top-three
Please no scum

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:13 pm
by catinfl
3goggles wrote:
dmjcat wrote:Take Wicker off the board:

Wicker down to UCLA/TTech and the scum

http://redraiders.com/filed-online/2015 ... -top-three
Please no scum
Ucla unless things change

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:53 am
by dmjcat
Washington Gatorade Player of the year deciding tonight.........and we made his final list:

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/highschoo ... ng-corner/

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:11 pm
by gronk4heisman
dmjcat wrote:Washington Gatorade Player of the year deciding tonight.........and we made his final list:

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/highschoo ... ng-corner/
Do we have any chance with him? We need a db more than any position imo. We may have a lot of names on pair, but not a lot of power 6 conference starter talent.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:31 pm
by azthrillhouse
gronk4heisman wrote:
dmjcat wrote:Washington Gatorade Player of the year deciding tonight.........and we made his final list:

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/highschoo ... ng-corner/
Do we have any chance with him? We need a db more than any position imo. We may have a lot of names on pair, but not a lot of power 6 conference starter talent.
UW.
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/huskyfoot ... in-joyner/

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:57 am
by TuiTouchdown
It looks like DB commit Shun Brown had a interception in last night's Semper Fi Bowl and also had some good practices leading up to it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattGOAZCATS ... 2529147904

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattGOAZCATS ... 0591947777

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:54 am
by CatsbyAZ
catinfl wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Marlon Gonzales

Absolutely YES to Gonzales. Will go a long way toward getting the DL/LB bodies needed. Please, yes.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:58 am
by TuiTouchdown
4 Star LB Arthur McGinnis is visiting on the 16th (and Oklahama on the 30th).

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/r ... nis-148200
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3244568/hig ... /218602381

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:27 am
by TuiTouchdown
Per Twitter, Derrell Clark 3-star WR is also visiting on 1/16.

http://247sports.com/Player/Darrell-Clark-25471

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:36 pm
by UALoco
With Jim Mora interviewing..wonder if we can pick up any UCLA commits at the last second....

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:55 pm
by TuiTouchdown
UALoco wrote:With Jim Mora interviewing..wonder if we can pick up any UCLA commits at the last second....
I would think Utah recruits would also be in play with their coaching shake-up. They lost their DC, DL coach, and OC.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:14 pm
by 3goggles
UALoco wrote:With Jim Mora interviewing..wonder if we can pick up any UCLA commits at the last second....
Fill me in. Mora is interviewing somewhere?

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:04 pm
by UALoco

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:08 pm
by UALoco
He wouldn't get on the plane for a cross country flight if he wasn't seriously considering the job with the Jets and SF might want to interview him as well. If I was a UCLA recruit, I would be worried that he might eventually jump ship.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:10 pm
by UALoco
TuiTouchdown wrote:
UALoco wrote:With Jim Mora interviewing..wonder if we can pick up any UCLA commits at the last second....
I would think Utah recruits would also be in play with their coaching shake-up. They lost their DC, DL coach, and OC.
True.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:29 pm
by MrBug708
I don't think beat Arizona for any of these kids. Most who would leave are out of state kids so probably not

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:35 pm
by 3goggles
ANGCatFan wrote:
Any update on how serious this was?

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:45 pm
by UAEebs86
3goggles wrote:

Any update on how serious this was?
Meniscus.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:01 pm
by catinfl
TuiTouchdown wrote:It looks like DB commit Shun Brown had a interception in last night's Semper Fi Bowl and also had some good practices leading up to it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattGOAZCATS ... 2529147904

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattGOAZCATS ... 0591947777
Love Shun Brown. Gonna be a good one.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:45 pm
by catinfl
Newportcat wrote:Apparently Keenan was walking around and appeared fine about an hour later

Bad footwork no doubt and why can't we ever land DLineman like that guy
Mostly because we're not throwing money at him. Keenan is a stud and getting beat on a single one on one rep isn't bad. He's still the best tackle in the west.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:29 am
by TuiTouchdown
UAEebs86 wrote:
3goggles wrote:

Any update on how serious this was?
Meniscus.
A quick search for torn meniscus told me that he could be out 4-weeks. Is that accurate? I'm sure he'll be ready to go by the time he's in Tucson.

This won't be another Sharif, will it?

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:10 pm
by rickyk
It's an ACL. He will RS

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:54 pm
by TuiTouchdown
rickyk wrote:It's an ACL. He will RS
Goddamnit.

Re: 2015 recruits/commitment thread

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:07 am
by Puerco
That sucks, but the silver lining is if you have to do an ACL, then this would be the best time to do it. He was almost certainly going to redshirt next year anyway. Hopefully he recovers quickly enough to be able to participate in all the S&C work his freshman year.