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Hernia, concussion, shoulder, stomach, Achilles, and several bouts with substance abuse: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/t ... R8ATS3l.97" target="_blankPHXCATS wrote: Maybe you have different motions and movements and use different muscles in football compared to baseball?
No reason ASU should have one, and UA doesn't. None.PHXCATS wrote:Arizona really needs an indoor facility. Sell bonds or borrow if needed, this is needed asap.
It's insane that we're in the minority without an IPF when season prep occurs in the worst possible period of weather for Tucson.PHXCATS wrote:Arizona really needs an indoor facility. Sell bonds or borrow if needed, this is needed asap.
Kind of like his lower key approach and the lack of self promotion. I was not the biggest GB fan and thought a lot of what he did was self promoting. They are certainly two different guys, that's for sureRazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Heard Heeke talking yesterday on radio that they expect to shortly announce a multi-year plan to begin upgrades on Stadium. Mainly East side seating plus other items. Also sounded like he hinted at another "gift" donation was possible. Know they're upgrading the Cell strength and adding more WiFi towers and hotspots now for the season.
Not sure about indoor facility but Heeke sounded pretty confident Beer sales coming "soon" to the stadium. Whatever "soon" means
Are all RichRod's practices that inefficient? 10% are actually practicing a facet of the game, 90% are practicing standing around. Honestly, that scene was really pathetic. Hey, RichRod, put in a call to Chip Kelly. Ask him how to run an efficient practice (and win games). Sheesh.ANGCatFan wrote:
Okay. I will defer to your opinion. I have never seen a RichRod practice in person, as I am sure you probably have. On the other hand, I have watched every televised RichRod coached game. I have been roundly criticized here for saying this in the past, but what I saw was consistently sloppy execution at many positions. That is a result of poor coaching and sloppy practice. You don't have to be a 4 or 5 star athlete to execute well. Remember, "perfect practice makes perfect", and I have not seen much evidence of that.azpenguin wrote:You're watching a few minutes of the very start of practice. You're watching them basically warm up and that's about it. RR packs a lot into practice time; when he got here reporters were saying one thing that stood out is how much they get done in a single practice compared to previous coaches.
We can't really do the exchange of ticket for guns. If the team isn't better than last year, hardcore fans are going to want to have some way to commit suicide.Merkin wrote:Getting near ASU basketball territory here. What's next, 2 cans of food?
Combine your love of tacos and Arizona Football.
Purchase any value meal box at a Southern Arizona Taco Bell then bring your receipt to the McKale Ticket Office and to get two football tickets at the price of one. #BearDown
Look at the bright side, if the sloppy practices continue and results in a crappy 2017 season we get Chuck!MrMeow wrote:Okay. I will defer to your opinion. I have never seen a RichRod practice in person, as I am sure you probably have. On the other hand, I have watched every televised RichRod coached game. I have been roundly criticized here for saying this in the past, but what I saw was consistently sloppy execution at many positions. That is a result of poor coaching and sloppy practice. You don't have to be a 4 or 5 star athlete to execute well. Remember, "perfect practice makes perfect", and I have not seen much evidence of that.azpenguin wrote:You're watching a few minutes of the very start of practice. You're watching them basically warm up and that's about it. RR packs a lot into practice time; when he got here reporters were saying one thing that stood out is how much they get done in a single practice compared to previous coaches.
Arizona Football >>>>> asu BasketballMerkin wrote:Getting near ASU basketball territory here. What's next, 2 cans of food?
Combine your love of tacos and Arizona Football.
Purchase any value meal box at a Southern Arizona Taco Bell then bring your receipt to the McKale Ticket Office and to get two football tickets at the price of one. #BearDown
asu basketball has never been #1. Hasn't had the all americans like UA Football. Doesn't have the big wins. Arizona football is much better than asu basketball. Much Much Much better.CalStateTempe wrote:Huh, that's an interesting take...
PHXCATS wrote:asu basketball has never been #1. Hasn't had the all americans like UA Football. Doesn't have the big wins. Arizona football is much better than asu basketball. Much Much Much better.CalStateTempe wrote:Huh, that's an interesting take...
But the general fans are not showing that. Arizona needs an indoor facility so desperately. Fans showing up helps with that greatly.
Please, it is not even comparable. Look at awards, draft picks, records, etc.Merkin wrote:PHXCATS wrote:asu basketball has never been #1. Hasn't had the all americans like UA Football. Doesn't have the big wins. Arizona football is much better than asu basketball. Much Much Much better.CalStateTempe wrote:Huh, that's an interesting take...
But the general fans are not showing that. Arizona needs an indoor facility so desperately. Fans showing up helps with that greatly.
ASU basketball - No Final Fours
UA Football - No Rose Bowls
ASU basketball last sole conference championship: 1973 WAC
UA football last sole conference championship: 1941 Border Conference
Seems like a wash to me.
I will say U of A Football fans are better than asu basketball fans and by a good amount, just not by the amount that the football program is better than their basketball program.CalStateTempe wrote:Don't disagree on your point about the programs.
Strongly disagree on your opinion of uofa football fans.
PHXCATS wrote:I will say U of A Football fans are better than asu basketball fans and by a good amount, just not by the amount that the football program is better than their basketball program.CalStateTempe wrote:Don't disagree on your point about the programs.
Strongly disagree on your opinion of uofa football fans.
U of A Football is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asu football also.
I will not say it is reasonable to expect U of A Football to be like Alabama or Texas or Ohio State, but I see no reason why U of A Football cannot be like Oklahoma State or Wisconsin or Iowa over time with upgrades to Arizona Stadium and the practice facility and more money for the program for other needs and coaches. I do not think you can go to Stillwater or Madison or Iowa City and get 2 for 1 tickets at the local taco bell or that the AD needs to go to businesses in those cities and beg for season ticket sales and Tucson is twice as big as those three cities combined.
While I would certainly agree that our FB program has enjoyed more success than ASU BB, the gap is not as wide as you would suggest,.. while the gap between our FB program support & their (lack of) support for Hoops is a chasm that is significantly wider than you acknowledge.PHXCATS wrote:asu basketball has never been #1. Hasn't had the all americans like UA Football. Doesn't have the big wins. Arizona football is much better than asu basketball. Much Much Much better.CalStateTempe wrote:Huh, that's an interesting take...
But the general fans are not showing that. Arizona needs an indoor facility so desperately. Fans showing up helps with that greatly.
What am I denying?chiefzona wrote:PHXCATS wrote:I will say U of A Football fans are better than asu basketball fans and by a good amount, just not by the amount that the football program is better than their basketball program.CalStateTempe wrote:Don't disagree on your point about the programs.
Strongly disagree on your opinion of uofa football fans.
U of A Football is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asu football also.
I will not say it is reasonable to expect U of A Football to be like Alabama or Texas or Ohio State, but I see no reason why U of A Football cannot be like Oklahoma State or Wisconsin or Iowa over time with upgrades to Arizona Stadium and the practice facility and more money for the program for other needs and coaches. I do not think you can go to Stillwater or Madison or Iowa City and get 2 for 1 tickets at the local taco bell or that the AD needs to go to businesses in those cities and beg for season ticket sales and Tucson is twice as big as those three cities combined.
Bartender!!!! I'll have what he's having....a strong shot of denial. Make that two!!!!
maybe Khari is in better football shape to start with..RR values fitness early on.azcat49 wrote:But yet he is running with the 3rd team. What do you make from that Razor? Trying to motivate D Tate or maybe that Lane is better than expected?
That maybe Lane better than expected. Who knows, I just noticed it. Could be reps run alphabetically after Dawkins/Khalil... K'Hari known for being a passing QB. Who knows if he can make the throws. He does hold Georgia's season passing TD record. Could be nothing.azcat49 wrote:But yet he is running with the 3rd team. What do you make from that Razor? Trying to motivate D Tate or maybe that Lane is better than expected?
You have hope for Werlinger?RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:I haven't put much hope in Donovan Tate or others outside Dawkins, Khalil and Werlinger.
Head start Knowing the system? Yes. But I called it Hope. Khalil wouldn't have even played last year as true freshman if RR wasn't so desperate (according to RR). When Anu Solomon struggled, many here wanted Dawkins in and to start. Play Dawkins then. Then they jumped on Dawkins and wanted Khalil. Now those same fans have both returning.UALoco wrote:You have hope for Werlinger?RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:I haven't put much hope in Donovan Tate or others outside Dawkins, Khalil and Werlinger.
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Head start Knowing the system? Yes. But I called it Hope. Khalil wouldn't have even played last year as true freshman if RR wasn't so desperate (according to RR). When Anu Solomon struggled, many here wanted Dawkins in and to start. Play Dawkins then. Then they jumped on Dawkins and wanted Khalil. Now those same fans have both returning.UALoco wrote:You have hope for Werlinger?RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:I haven't put much hope in Donovan Tate or others outside Dawkins, Khalil and Werlinger.
Not that I disagree with you, but you seem so negative about RR and anything about RR and his approach to Football that It's hard to think you're not compromised in your opinion and so biased against. I try to stay neutral. I was a big fan of RR at UA. But results matter. I wanted him to succeed. But "it is what it is". I don't think you supported him from the beginning. But that's just my opinion.chiefzona wrote:RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Head start Knowing the system? Yes. But I called it Hope. Khalil wouldn't have even played last year as true freshman if RR wasn't so desperate (according to RR). When Anu Solomon struggled, many here wanted Dawkins in and to start. Play Dawkins then. Then they jumped on Dawkins and wanted Khalil. Now those same fans have both returning.UALoco wrote:You have hope for Werlinger?RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:I haven't put much hope in Donovan Tate or others outside Dawkins, Khalil and Werlinger.
Usually signs that the system is broken.
PHXCATS wrote:D Tate hasn't played football for a long time. It will take time.
Book it, he starts a game this season.
You got itazcat49 wrote:PHXCATS wrote:D Tate hasn't played football for a long time. It will take time.
Book it, he starts a game this season.
Sans injury, I would take that bet for a beer or 3
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Not that I disagree with you, but you seem so negative about RR and anything about RR and his approach to Football that It's hard to think you're not compromised in your opinion and so biased against. I try to stay neutral. I was a big fan of RR at UA. But results matter. I wanted him to succeed. But "it is what it is". I don't think you supported him from the beginning. But that's just my opinion.chiefzona wrote:RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Head start Knowing the system? Yes. But I called it Hope. Khalil wouldn't have even played last year as true freshman if RR wasn't so desperate (according to RR). When Anu Solomon struggled, many here wanted Dawkins in and to start. Play Dawkins then. Then they jumped on Dawkins and wanted Khalil. Now those same fans have both returning.UALoco wrote:You have hope for Werlinger?RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:I haven't put much hope in Donovan Tate or others outside Dawkins, Khalil and Werlinger.
Usually signs that the system is broken.
Of course I assume you are a fan of UA primarily (assumption) and IF UA turns it around this season, does the remarkable you'd be happy and supportive of it and RR. Again, another assumption. If that's not the case, that's fine. It's your opinion. But it leads to align priorities and what's "success". Jesse Scroggins is not walking back through that UA tunnel.
