2017 recruits/commitment thread

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:11 pm

I don't see us becoming Kansas bad, but I can see us being a program that struggles to just get bowl eligible for the next 3-4 years. Like spend 2016-2019 as a 3-6 win team trying to rebuild. Oh well, the first 5 years of my fandom Arizona was 2-10, 3-8, 3-8, 6-6 and 5-7. So nothing I'm not used to.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:33 am

Drew Dixon is now a 4* ATH

Lose one add one

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:16 pm

But he should have walked on right Chief LOL

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:43 pm

What site did he get 4 stars from? az49....have you seen his offer list? He runs a 4.9 and has a terrible Sparq rating. I have seen him make a couple of real good catches this season but he doesn't make my motor rev. I would be like the rest of the PAC 12 in this case and not have offered him. However, I am happy for him and wish him well in the future.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:03 pm

chiefzona wrote:What site did he get 4 stars from?

Rivals. Surprised you didn't know that two days ago.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:36 pm

Chicat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:What site did he get 4 stars from?
Rivals. Surprised you didn't know that two days ago.

I don't follow Rivals or Scout of the recruiting sites. They are just money grabbers.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:38 pm

chiefzona wrote:
Chicat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:What site did he get 4 stars from?
Rivals. Surprised you didn't know that two days ago.
I don't follow Rivals or Scout of the recruiting sites. They are just money grabbers.

because you know SoOoOoOo much more.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:43 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
Chicat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:What site did he get 4 stars from?
Rivals. Surprised you didn't know that two days ago.
I don't follow Rivals or Scout of the recruiting sites. They are just money grabbers.
because you know SoOoOoOo much more.

Nope. I don't know anything about football. I'm a basketball guy.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:08 pm

Chicat wrote:

I hate the word "commit". Commit seeks other options?

Seems like an oxymoron.

Well, I'll go with you to the dance, until someone better asks me, but we're not going steady!

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:15 pm

There might be more movement as the rumor of some other coaches leaving/fired looms.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:29 pm

chiefzona wrote:There might be more movement as the rumor of some other coaches leaving/fired looms.

If it rhymes with Barley Bagel, then it is a move that should have been done a long time ago and much deserved.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:37 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:
chiefzona wrote:There might be more movement as the rumor of some other coaches leaving/fired looms.
If it rhymes with Barley Bagel, then it is a move that should have been done a long time ago and much deserved.

Nice call. He should've never been hired. Waste of money and time.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:42 pm

http://www.scout.com/player/195120-antjuan-simmons" target="_blank

Keep an eye on this Ohio State De-Commit. Visiting this weekend.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:02 pm

chiefzona wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:
chiefzona wrote:There might be more movement as the rumor of some other coaches leaving/fired looms.
If it rhymes with Barley Bagel, then it is a move that should have been done a long time ago and much deserved.

Nice call. He should've never been hired. Waste of money and time.

Wasn't he hired just to get some hot recruit out of Chapparel? Don't know if it ever panned out or not, but his work with special teams is Jeff Hammershmidt worthy.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:49 pm

Merkin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:
chiefzona wrote:There might be more movement as the rumor of some other coaches leaving/fired looms.
If it rhymes with Barley Bagel, then it is a move that should have been done a long time ago and much deserved.

Nice call. He should've never been hired. Waste of money and time.
Wasn't he hired just to get some hot recruit out of Chapparel? Don't know if it ever panned out or not, but his work with special teams is Jeff Hammershmidt worthy.

Davonte Neal or Keenen walker? Got them both and they aren't doing shit for us. We should've hired the Scottsdale saguaro coach if any phx high school. Could you imagine Christian Kirk in Tucson

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:07 pm

Sounds like a lot of guys in town this weekend. Let''S hope playing time lures some of them our way.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:36 am

whatisee wrote:Sounds like a lot of guys in town this weekend. Let''S hope playing time lures some of them our way.

Playing Time pitch isn't a guarantee. The staff has to be completely honest with the recruit on early playing time in case we suffer another mass of injury to the starting position.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:51 am

cordera89 wrote:
whatisee wrote:Sounds like a lot of guys in town this weekend. Let''S hope playing time lures some of them our way.
Playing Time pitch isn't a guarantee. The staff has to be completely honest with the recruit on early playing time in case we suffer another mass of injury to the starting position.

We have mid-major talent at nearly every position. Any good recruit should be told they will most likely play if they get their body right and can master the playbook, and could even have the opportunity to win starting roles in camp.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:58 am

Very few true freshman will be ready to contribute. Takes a year to bulk up and learn the playbook. Even Anu had to redshirt, while Denker and his noodle arm played, and won.

But like Chi said, if they can do it, they can play. Outside of the OL and DL though. Any true freshmen play at those positions lately?

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:15 am

Chicat wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
whatisee wrote:Sounds like a lot of guys in town this weekend. Let''S hope playing time lures some of them our way.
Playing Time pitch isn't a guarantee. The staff has to be completely honest with the recruit on early playing time in case we suffer another mass of injury to the starting position.
We have mid-major talent at nearly every position. Any good recruit should be told they will most likely play if they get their body right and can master the playbook, and could even have the opportunity to win starting roles in camp.

Immediate playing time at UA? Heckuva prospect. Kinda like having first dibs on being Hilary's lover.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:19 pm

MrMeow wrote:
Chicat wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
whatisee wrote:Sounds like a lot of guys in town this weekend. Let''S hope playing time lures some of them our way.
Playing Time pitch isn't a guarantee. The staff has to be completely honest with the recruit on early playing time in case we suffer another mass of injury to the starting position.
We have mid-major talent at nearly every position. Any good recruit should be told they will most likely play if they get their body right and can master the playbook, and could even have the opportunity to win starting roles in camp.
Immediate playing time at UA? Heckuva prospect. Kinda like having first dibs on being Hilary's lover.

Then you better hope they sign with Arizona.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:24 pm

cordera89 wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
Chicat wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
whatisee wrote:Sounds like a lot of guys in town this weekend. Let''S hope playing time lures some of them our way.
Playing Time pitch isn't a guarantee. The staff has to be completely honest with the recruit on early playing time in case we suffer another mass of injury to the starting position.
We have mid-major talent at nearly every position. Any good recruit should be told they will most likely play if they get their body right and can master the playbook, and could even have the opportunity to win starting roles in camp.
Immediate playing time at UA? Heckuva prospect. Kinda like having first dibs on being Hilary's lover.
Then your better hope they sign with Arizona.

Huh?

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:40 pm

So how does the Josh Allen Situation play out. He signed a LOI last year but didn't qualify. Did we move on from him is he is still technically a wildcat if he pays somewhere else does he have to sit out a year?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:46 pm

MrMeow wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
MrMeow wrote:Immediate playing time at UA? Heckuva prospect. Kinda like having first dibs on being Hilary's lover.
Then your better hope they sign with Arizona.
Huh?

I've got nothing.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:20 pm

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:37 pm

3goggles wrote:So how does the Josh Allen Situation play out. He signed a LOI last year but didn't qualify. Did we move on from him is he is still technically a wildcat if he pays somewhere else does he have to sit out a year?

I've been wondering the same thing. Last I heard he was at Eastern Arizona JC working on getting eligible. The guy is a flake however and he had a year prior to that to get eligible and didn't. I kind of wrote him off in my mind but we sure could use him, even if its just for a year.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:40 pm

3goggles wrote:So how does the Josh Allen Situation play out. He signed a LOI last year but didn't qualify. Did we move on from him is he is still technically a wildcat if he pays somewhere else does he have to sit out a year?

He's not a Wildcat. His production has significantly dropped this year at LBCC.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:43 pm

Devonte Neal Redux?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:58 pm

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:10 pm

With RichRod's job on the line, I wonder if he will not redshirt Burmeister with Solomon being glass and Tate and Dawkins unable to throw.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:15 pm

Merkin wrote:With RichRod's job on the line, I wonder if he will not redshirt Burmeister with Solomon being glass and Tate and Dawkins unable to throw.

I'm sure all of the voluntary work this off season and spring ball will be working with Dawkins and his passing game. If he can develop into a a slight passing threat, dude will be unstoppable. It just has to be enough to keep the other teams honest, not Peyton Manning.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:25 pm

wyo-cat wrote:
Merkin wrote:With RichRod's job on the line, I wonder if he will not redshirt Burmeister with Solomon being glass and Tate and Dawkins unable to throw.
I'm sure all of the voluntary work this off season and spring ball will be working with Dawkins and his passing game. If he can develop into a a slight passing threat, dude will be unstoppable. It just has to be enough to keep the other teams honest, not Peyton Manning.

If they can get him to look to the secondary receivers, and especially not tuck and run too soon that will certainly say a lot about Rich Rod and Rod Smith in developing QBs.

And of course avoid injuries, which seems to affect every UA QB due to the need to have them run when called upon.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:33 pm

wyo-cat wrote:
Merkin wrote:With RichRod's job on the line, I wonder if he will not redshirt Burmeister with Solomon being glass and Tate and Dawkins unable to throw.
I'm sure all of the voluntary work this off season and spring ball will be working with Dawkins and his passing game. If he can develop into a a slight passing threat, dude will be unstoppable. It just has to be enough to keep the other teams honest, not Peyton Manning.

There hasn't been a consistently accurate passer around here since Frank Scelfo was shown the door (Matt Scott started with Scelfo). Could Rod Smith have anything to do with this drought ? More drinking buddy dead weight? Talk about a lack of player development.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:18 pm

chiefzona wrote:
3goggles wrote:So how does the Josh Allen Situation play out. He signed a LOI last year but didn't qualify. Did we move on from him is he is still technically a wildcat if he pays somewhere else does he have to sit out a year?

He's not a Wildcat. His production has significantly dropped this year at LBCC.

Dude isn't even on the roster for LBCC this year. Pretty sure he used up all his eligibility.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:23 pm

Merkin wrote:With RichRod's job on the line, I wonder if he will not redshirt Burmeister with Solomon being glass and Tate and Dawkins unable to throw.

My opinion on Braxton is that he is going to be a helluva quarterback, but true freshman QB's aren't usually guys that can come in and play at a high level. (Unless your Jalen Hurts, but I'm pretty sure I could sit back there and throw to Bama WR's behind that OL and be a pretty good QB). Anu was supposed to come in and beat Denker, but it didn't happen as a freshman because there is a lot to learn. Now Burmeister is coming in the Spring so that certainly does help him a bit, but I'm skeptical. I think Tate will be better with a year under his belt, I think Dawkins has a lot of room to improve with his throwing ability, but damn can he run, and honestly I still don't think we've seen the last of Anu. In a perfect world Burmeister comes in and starts and is a starter for four years, but I think he will red-shirt.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:44 pm

I think Anu is done. I also think Tate is handed the keys by next year. Just my 2cents

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:23 pm

Article on all of the commits that are looking around

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... n-phillips" target="_blank

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:15 am

catinfl wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
3goggles wrote:So how does the Josh Allen Situation play out. He signed a LOI last year but didn't qualify. Did we move on from him is he is still technically a wildcat if he pays somewhere else does he have to sit out a year?

He's not a Wildcat. His production has significantly dropped this year at LBCC.
Dude isn't even on the roster for LBCC this year. Pretty sure he used up all his eligibility.

He played this year. 30 tackles. 12 TFL. 2.5 sacks.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:56 pm

we still need him

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:07 pm

chiefzona wrote:
catinfl wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
3goggles wrote:So how does the Josh Allen Situation play out. He signed a LOI last year but didn't qualify. Did we move on from him is he is still technically a wildcat if he pays somewhere else does he have to sit out a year?

He's not a Wildcat. His production has significantly dropped this year at LBCC.
Dude isn't even on the roster for LBCC this year. Pretty sure he used up all his eligibility.

He played this year. 30 tackles. 12 TFL. 2.5 sacks.

Better stats than Matt Leo, but yeah I'd pass

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:26 am

Hope we get him, Need size in the WR core.

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/football/2 ... --wildcats" target="_blank

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:22 pm

AZ Daily Star Decommitment story:

http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... 3d752.html" target="_blank

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:41 pm

dmjcat wrote:AZ Daily Star Decommitment story:

http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... 3d752.html" target="_blank

"Other schools quick to poach Arizona Wildcats recruits following 3-9 season"

Typo on the Headline... it Should read: "Other schools quick to poach Arizona Wildcats recruits following AD's Failure to Give Rodriguez Deserved Raise & Extension"

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:06 pm

Another decommit...........Mcneal flips to Oregon

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... ng-taggart" target="_blank

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:21 pm

It nothing new. These are Williams recruits after all and they were only committed to him not the school. The staff will replace those that decommitted.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:06 pm

cordera89 wrote:It nothing new. These are Williams recruits after all and they were only committed to him not the school. The staff will replace those that decommitted.

Wrong again cordera89 that was Jahmile Addae recruits not Donte!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:39 pm

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:43 pm

3goggles wrote:
cordera89 wrote:It nothing new. These are Williams recruits after all and they were only committed to him not the school. The staff will replace those that decommitted.
Wrong again cordera89 that was Jahmile Addae recruits not Donte!

Hmmm oh well it don't matter, It not Addae for his Decommitted.

ALASKACAT · Post by **ALASKACAT** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:42 am

Chicat wrote:

Just to clarify your post: Sione Taufahema verbally committed to Arizona. http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... ly-commits" target="_blank

RazorsEdgeAZ · Post by **RazorsEdgeAZ** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:04 am

I might be the exception, but I never thought 2017 class was outstanding before the decommits. It was decent, better than last couple years, but not leaps better. I never bought into RR's "best class in UA history" rhetoric. How would he know anyway... Hyperbole to sell fans hope.

Every class has turnover. But this class is heading into trouble. Could see 3-4 more decommits. Still will be a decent class. But normal for RR, I'm guessing ranked low to mid 30's. Class still has many RR traditional recruits that hold Non-Power five or lower end power five offers.

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