Game #10 @ USC Trojans Discussion Thread

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:00 pm

O/U 49 points allowed

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:34 pm

Watch this be the game Arizona catches fire and either loses a close one or wins a stunner because #pac12afterdark.

Not saying that's what's going to happen. Just been a strange enough season.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:54 pm

azpenguin wrote:Watch this be the game Arizona catches fire and either loses a close one or wins a stunner because #pac12afterdark.

Not saying that's what's going to happen. Just been a strange enough season.

This is one of the best parts of being a true fan of one team, good or bad. Always fun to anticipate ... and hope springs eternal. Go Cats!

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:04 pm

Better defensive matchup and better weather and possibly healthier players. We'll score more...but still get blown out. Thinking a like 51-24 score.

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:10 pm

Here comes the pain.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:18 pm

If UW put up 49 on us, USC should put up 1000?

This is going to be Awful and I will be there in Full U of A gear praying for a miracle

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:43 pm

Team sucking, coach possibly leaving, recruits decommiting..and we have to play the Trojans. If that isn't the epitome of a dumpster fire, I don't know what is.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:02 pm

Rich Rod has lost the players. It would be fun to see anything competitive.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:31 pm

I see about 52-27

Catstatic · Post by **Catstatic** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:40 am

UALoco wrote:Team sucking, coach possibly leaving, recruits decommiting..and we have to play the Trojans. If that isn't the epitome of a dumpster fire, I don't know what is.

And they're the ones who just fired their coach!

Crazy.

Go Cats!!

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:02 am

we have absolutely no business winning this game, which might be why we win this game.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:08 am

USC is @CU after the UA game. Buffs gave UCLA a good game, but can't imagine USC looking ahead to them.

SC is going to bring it hard and fast to UA to knock the sails out of the team like UDub did.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:06 am

chiefzona wrote:Rich Rod has lost the players.

That's quite a bold statement.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:10 am

azpenguin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Rich Rod has lost the players.
That's quite a bold statement.

49 points allowed on D

3 points scored on O

Against a team that had been 1-3 in PAC play.

Now I'm not saying one thing or another about chief's statement, but I will say this: imagine if that was the result and he hasn't lost the players? That would mean there's potentially more downside to come...

/shudder

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:13 am

azpenguin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Rich Rod has lost the players.
That's quite a bold statement.

Defense certainly quit on him out there v. UDub.

Didn't see all that much quit in the offense, but maybe handing off up the middle to Baker for 1 or 2 yards is perhaps their way of just getting the game over with. After all, it is a zone read offense.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:35 pm

Juju Smith-Schuster having surgery for a broken hand today. Status hasn't been made known yet for Saturday but there's a chance he plays.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:54 pm

azpenguin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Rich Rod has lost the players.
That's quite a bold statement.

It's actually not. There are some locker room problems and fights and arguments between some players and the trainers.

Post by **UAdevil** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:55 pm

chiefzona wrote:
azpenguin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Rich Rod has lost the players.
That's quite a bold statement.

It's actually not. There are some locker room problems and fights and arguments between some players and the trainers.

Not surprising. That is usually what happens when a season goes into the crapper.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:08 pm

UAdevil wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azpenguin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Rich Rod has lost the players.
That's quite a bold statement.

It's actually not. There are some locker room problems and fights and arguments between some players and the trainers.

Not surprising. That is usually what happens when a season goes into the crapper.

Very true. There are some pissed off parents. Injuries not being dealt with properly and some players are afraid to address it with staff for fear of retaliation.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:15 pm

This I can believe. I still think whoever cleared Scooby after the first injury needs to have the case go to peer review.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:20 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:This I can believe. I still think whoever cleared Scooby after the first injury needs to have the case go to peer review.

Totally agreed CST.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:04 pm

Scooby's knee was fine and he was moving good and he injured a different leg and he injured his foot. Both not related in the slightest. Not a trainer error just bad luck.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:33 pm

Scooby said his knee was even stronger than before the injury, so it's not like a Gronk thing.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:17 pm

Aren't the parents always pissed? Anyways, I think USC scores at will. 55 pts maybe. UA will struggle again at offense. I say they get two field goals after USC knocks Anu out of the game and loads up the box against JR. I hope I am wrong and there is a miracle in Watts. BearDown.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:09 pm

Going to be tough for Solomon and Randall with these hurting.

11/01/15 RB Nick Wilson Foot "?" Saturday vs. USC
11/01/15 DL Parker Zellers Knee "?" Saturday vs. USC
11/01/15 WR Tyrell Johnson Hamstring "?" Saturday vs. USC

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:22 pm

chiefzona wrote:
UAdevil wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azpenguin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Rich Rod has lost the players.
That's quite a bold statement.

It's actually not. There are some locker room problems and fights and arguments between some players and the trainers.

Not surprising. That is usually what happens when a season goes into the crapper.

Very true. There are some pissed off parents. Injuries not being dealt with properly and some players are afraid to address it with staff for fear of retaliation.

Quit trying to stir the pot.

RR ain't getting fired. If he leaves, this program will deal with it.

But as for now, trying add drama to the situation helps nobody and is a testament to your lack of character.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:10 am

Salty-With the derailment that you are watching in front of you and a flat out refusal to change stagnant staff, it's funny why you would think that someone needs to stir the pot when said pot is already boiling.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:19 am

chiefzona wrote: Injuries not being dealt with properly and some players are afraid to address it with staff for fear of retaliation.

This is quite the accusation, and if true, is the type of thing that gets coaches fired and ncaa sanctions handed down, isn't it?

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:58 am

PieceOfMeat wrote:
chiefzona wrote: Injuries not being dealt with properly and some players are afraid to address it with staff for fear of retaliation.
This is quite the accusation, and if true, is the type of thing that gets coaches fired and ncaa sanctions handed down, isn't it?

This is simply Chief trying to create chaos and distrust within the program.

It's highly unlikely that there is any truth to what Chief is saying, and if there is, it's just the product of individuals who are frustrated with what has happened this season, mixed with those who want a regime change.

This does absolutely nothing to help the program whatsoever. Chief, the reality is that RR is our coach, and will be unless he decides to leave. What you are doing is actively hurting ARIZONA, not RR. As of right now, what we need to do is let him sort out whatever problems the program is facing with all his energy.

You are not helping. You are actively hurting this school and its future, regardless of whether or not RR is the coach.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:08 am

Folks need to calm down. The team has hit a tough string with scheduling, injuries, poor play, and some coaching mistakes. It happens. I do agree that our defense needs some changes but I am not for calling for RR to be replaced. Changing coaches so fast will cause more chaos and let the next staff know that the AD isn't supportive and we'll only attract ladder climbers. I don't think we've let RR's plan run its course to see the heights it may achieve. When folks are healthier, some recruiting hits, and a better schedule, this team can make some noise, which frankly is all we really should expect given the program's inherent potential, location, place in college football. Greg and RR, I got your back. Keep plugging away. I'll support this team through thick or thin. (I might whine about the team but I'll always support it) Oh, if RR quits, that is fine..we'll take the $$ and give it to the next coach. If we fire him, he gets some of it.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:10 am

I put zero stock into ANYTHING people say on this board who fit into any of these three categories.

1) people who only post during the tough times
2) people who contradict themselves consistently
3) people who show no ability to comprehend anything and usually have no clue about the topics

Chief falls into all three.

Now for the game, a lot depends on pride of the players and coaches. RR seems to have one foot out the door but what about the players and assistant coaches? I don't know if the fire is back. If it is I say USC wins a close one. If not I could see a 20 to 24 point game in favor of the trojans

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:12 am

The only way RR is fired is if a) he is interviewing at other schools without Greg's permission and knowledge or b) he is committing NCAA rules violations.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:40 am

I don't buy the line of thinking that RR already has one foot out the door. I watched the presser yesterday and he looked like someone who was searching for answers and frustrated, not someone who is disinterested. Someone asked what it would take for Samajie Grant to be what he was last year and RR stood up for him. (After some of Grant's mistakes during games it would have been easy to light him up.) Talked about pushing the guys through adversity, said that when things get hard you either fight, flight or freeze and that they were working on pushing the guys to fight because people typically freeze when it gets tough. Said he's already watched the UW film multiple times before the meeting and then had the entire offense watch it together, something they don't normally do. No formulaic answers in the presser. Doesn't sound like someone who is disinterested to the point of being out the door.

As for Tagaloa and Alsadek, I am not certain but Tagaloa was having his leg iced late. Alsadek went for concussion protocol during the game. I'd guess that's the issues and if Alsadek did get diagnosed with a concussion then I doubt we see him this week.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:40 am

A presser is way different than obligitory interviews and even in the presser he did not squash the rumors. It would be different if there was just one school he was rumored for but it is three or four here.

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:02 am

PHXCATS wrote:A presser is way different than obligitory interviews and even in the presser he did not squash the rumors. It would be different if there was just one school he was rumored for but it is three or four here.

Furente at Memphis is rumored with like 7 jobs. Speculation is gonna happen regardless can't stop it. How many coaches have straight up denied interest than ended up taking said job? I don't have a problem with what was said.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:12 am

He can't squash the rumors or even address certain ones directly. A denial that he would be interested wouldn't cool things down at all for the press.

eoe · Post by **eoe** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:42 am

Salty wrote:
Quit trying to stir the pot.

RR ain't getting fired. If he leaves, this program will deal with it.

But as for now, trying add drama to the situation helps nobody and is a testament to your lack of character.

Yep, just a prick getting his shots in at the expense of the football program. No need to air laundry

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:49 am

chiefzona wrote:Salty-With the derailment that you are watching in front of you and a flat out refusal to change stagnant staff, it's funny why you would think that someone needs to stir the pot when said pot is already boiling.

Chief, you're glib...

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:08 pm

I will have the pleasure of sitting behind our bench in enemy territory on Saturday. Not really looking forward to the game, tailgating yes, the game, not so much.....

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:17 pm

I wonder where our leadership is coming from? I just fon't see anyone stepping up and leading player wise.

On offense it's not Anu or Wilson and it certainly is not Jones. I think last year Gurrola did a great job getting guys focused and I think we are missing that.

As for defense, man I just don't know. Too many guys in and out. Scooby and Turituri were leaders but they can't do it from the sideline.

As for RR, not sure what he could say about the rumors. If he wants to go he is probably pissed this is happening. We may be grousing about this year but to me that is a positive as it points to an uptick in expectations. 3 straight bowls and 26 wins along with a south title will do that.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:28 pm

Chicat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Salty-With the derailment that you are watching in front of you and a flat out refusal to change stagnant staff, it's funny why you would think that someone needs to stir the pot when said pot is already boiling.
Chief, you're glib...

You sure he isn't being smug?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:47 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:
chiefzona wrote: Injuries not being dealt with properly and some players are afraid to address it with staff for fear of retaliation.
This is quite the accusation, and if true, is the type of thing that gets coaches fired and ncaa sanctions handed down, isn't it?

Not at all.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:50 pm

Nick Wilson isn't traveling with the team to USC and at least is out for two games. I wouldn't be surprised if he was out for the season. USC is practicing running a 3-4 to take out the middle, stop the run and force the QBs to pass.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:51 pm

eoe wrote:
Salty wrote:
Quit trying to stir the pot.

RR ain't getting fired. If he leaves, this program will deal with it.

But as for now, trying add drama to the situation helps nobody and is a testament to your lack of character.
Yep, just a prick getting his shots in at the expense of the football program. No need to air laundry

A prick? No. I'm just being informative.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:56 pm

PHXCATS wrote:I put zero stock into ANYTHING people say on this board who fit into any of these three categories.

1) people who only post during the tough times
2) people who contradict themselves consistently
3) people who show no ability to comprehend anything and usually have no clue about the topics

Chief falls into all three.

Now for the game, a lot depends on pride of the players and coaches. RR seems to have one foot out the door but what about the players and assistant coaches? I don't know if the fire is back. If it is I say USC wins a close one. If not I could see a 20 to 24 point game in favor of the trojans

I don't post on any board too much. I'm a free agent. I post on Twitter all of the time so that all can see. I don't hide or chince on what I feel or know on subjects. You saying that I have no clue on the topics is pretty funny. Relax a bit and stop being afraid to face the truth.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:14 pm

Well, you're certainly consistent...

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:18 pm

chiefzona wrote:
eoe wrote:
Salty wrote:
Quit trying to stir the pot.

RR ain't getting fired. If he leaves, this program will deal with it.

But as for now, trying add drama to the situation helps nobody and is a testament to your lack of character.
Yep, just a prick getting his shots in at the expense of the football program. No need to air laundry

A prick? No. I'm just being informative.

Being informative by bashing the program every chance you get?
@Chiefzona1472
So no Casteel has been fired announcement? Bye Rich and thanks for the Rod.
‏@Chiefzona1472 Nov 2
Steve Chief Burt Retweeted Zack Rosenblatt
Kill the Zone Read Option and go pro style. That'll solve it. Throw in a couple of bootlegs and play actions.
Chiefzona1472 Nov 1
Arizona needs a coach who taps into SoCal, runs zero gimmicks, loves defense, and recruits QBs who can lead receivers and hit them in stride
@Chiefzona1472 Nov 1
Steve Chief Burt Retweeted Bruce Feldman
Va Tech for RR. Best part for him is that the Alumnus and boosters can stick with mediocrity for a spell.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:28 pm

catinfl wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
eoe wrote:
Salty wrote:
Quit trying to stir the pot.

RR ain't getting fired. If he leaves, this program will deal with it.

But as for now, trying add drama to the situation helps nobody and is a testament to your lack of character.
Yep, just a prick getting his shots in at the expense of the football program. No need to air laundry

A prick? No. I'm just being informative.
Being informative by bashing the program every chance you get?
@Chiefzona1472
So no Casteel has been fired announcement? Bye Rich and thanks for the Rod.
‏@Chiefzona1472 Nov 2
Steve Chief Burt Retweeted Zack Rosenblatt
Kill the Zone Read Option and go pro style. That'll solve it. Throw in a couple of bootlegs and play actions.
Chiefzona1472 Nov 1
Arizona needs a coach who taps into SoCal, runs zero gimmicks, loves defense, and recruits QBs who can lead receivers and hit them in stride
@Chiefzona1472 Nov 1
Steve Chief Burt Retweeted Bruce Feldman
Va Tech for RR. Best part for him is that the Alumnus and boosters can stick with mediocrity for a spell.

I've helped the program with way more than I hurt it. You do know that I am a part of the Letterwinners club and friends with many ex Cats football players. I do not like the 3-3-5 nor the Zone Read Option and I have never hid that fact as you know CFL. I will always speak my mind about that. You know this as you have been on the boards that I have as well as followed me on Twitter. I am well connected in SoCal HS football and I have spoken highly of Arizona until recently. I am very angry about the fact that RR refuses to budge on Casteel and some of the positional coaches. Until he does, I have very little that's nice to say. I'm connected with the program and I hear the buzz and right now it's unfavorable to say the least. Keep up the good work CFL.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:34 pm

FWIW....I just talked an Arizona player out of transferring. I believe he'll start next season. His parents are irate and frustrated and needed my counsel. He is going to stay and I think he'll be a good one. See, I'm not too bad of a guy.

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