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Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:13 pm
by cordera89
Has anyone heard about this yet. RR is going to have to hired a new Safety Coach.

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Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:51 pm
by whatisee
Not surprising...i bet he saw the writing on the wall

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:22 pm
by cordera89
It wasn't a surprised to me, It just was unnotices that he left for WV. Well that make three position that are now open for RR to screw the pooch.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:23 pm
by Chicat
It wasn't unnoticed. Just because someone didn't start a brand new thread on it doesn't mean we weren't talking about it.

As for "pooch screwing", doesn't it make the DC job more desirable if a candidate can bring in more of his own guys to work with?

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:27 pm
by whatisee
Chicat wrote:It wasn't unnoticed. Just because someone didn't start a brand new thread on it doesn't mean we weren't talking about it.

As for "pooch screwing", doesn't it make the DC job more desirable if a candidate can bring in more of his own guys to work with?
Absolutely. Good news and a fresh start

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:48 am
by Puerco
cordera doesn't like change.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:36 am
by Merkin
Trying to think of any bright spots in the defense last year, which there really isn't, but the safety position was probably the least bad. Cats going to miss Will Parks. Seemed the corners were burned much more than the safeties, but still a the 3rd and long being pretty much automatic showed up on them too.

So Caponi going to a equivalent position at a lower level school seems appropriate. Not that Casteel will find an equivalent position elsewhere.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:30 am
by whatisee
Merkin wrote:Trying to think of any bright spots in the defense last year, which there really isn't, but the safety position was probably the least bad. Cats going to miss Will Parks. Seemed the corners were burned much more than the safeties, but still a the 3rd and long being pretty much automatic showed up on them too.

So Caponi going to a equivalent position at a lower level school seems appropriate. Not that Casteel will find an equivalent position elsewhere.
Magloire was a bright spot and should replace Parks nicely if we stay in the 3-3-5

WVU is not a lower level school IMO.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:08 am
by Merkin
whatisee wrote: WVU is not a lower level school IMO.
That is true, especially now that they are in the Big 12. I keep thinking Big East.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:15 pm
by RazorsEdgeAZ
Not sure what thread to put in...

With News that Casteel going to UTEP, thought it was interesting that UTEP had a media release on Jan. 4th stating they would announce their new coordinators tomorrow the 14th. Announced 10 days before they scheduled a news conference.

The 4th the same day AZ announced that Casteel and Kirelawich would not be back.

Looking at some of the local UTEP media from the 4th release, multiple were saying UTEP (sources) had already lined up their coordinators couple weeks before that, of their 4th media release.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:40 pm
by azgreg
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Not sure what thread to put in...

With News that Casteel going to UTEP, thought it was interesting that UTEP had a media release on Jan. 4th stating they would announce their new coordinators tomorrow the 14th. Announced 10 days before they scheduled a news conference.

The 4th the same day AZ announced that Casteel and Kirelawich would not be back.

Looking at some of the local UTEP media from the 4th release, multiple were saying UTEP (sources) had already lined up their coordinators couple weeks before that, of their 4th media release.
Timing is everything. :D

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:59 pm
by chiefzona
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Not sure what thread to put in...

With News that Casteel going to UTEP, thought it was interesting that UTEP had a media release on Jan. 4th stating they would announce their new coordinators tomorrow the 14th. Announced 10 days before they scheduled a news conference.

The 4th the same day AZ announced that Casteel and Kirelawich would not be back.

Looking at some of the local UTEP media from the 4th release, multiple were saying UTEP (sources) had already lined up their coordinators couple weeks before that, of their 4th media release.
Are you implying that Casteel wasn't fired?

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:52 pm
by cordera89
Chicat wrote:It wasn't unnoticed. Just because someone didn't start a brand new thread on it doesn't mean we weren't talking about it.

As for "pooch screwing", doesn't it make the DC job more desirable if a candidate can bring in more of his own guys to work with?
Chi calm the hell down. It wasn't a surprised to me on his departure, it was unnoticed to me that he decide it to leave instead of staying. Now we should be more concern once RR hired a DC is he going to allow him to hired his own Safety coach and Dline Coach.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:53 pm
by cordera89
Puerco wrote:cordera doesn't like change.
Me not liking to change. In what change are you talking about.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:56 pm
by Chicat
cordera89 wrote:
Chicat wrote:It wasn't unnoticed. Just because someone didn't start a brand new thread on it doesn't mean we weren't talking about it.

As for "pooch screwing", doesn't it make the DC job more desirable if a candidate can bring in more of his own guys to work with?
Chi calm the hell down.
:lol:

This is by far the best thing you've ever typed on these forums. I'm just surprised you didn't start a new thread to post it.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:13 pm
by RazorsEdgeAZ
chiefzona wrote:
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Not sure what thread to put in...

With News that Casteel going to UTEP, thought it was interesting that UTEP had a media release on Jan. 4th stating they would announce their new coordinators tomorrow the 14th. Announced 10 days before they scheduled a news conference.

The 4th the same day AZ announced that Casteel and Kirelawich would not be back.

Looking at some of the local UTEP media from the 4th release, multiple were saying UTEP (sources) had already lined up their coordinators couple weeks before that, of their 4th media release.
Are you implying that Casteel wasn't fired?
Implying that it may have turned into a mutual. UTEP a step down on the resume. I would assume going to be a large step down in pay for Casteel. UTEP HC made $510k last year. Casteel - $670k.

Casteel hasn't made less than $400k since 2010. Conditions at AZ help with the decision(s). Whatever Negotiations took awhile, Casteel had a fall back (offer - pending his acceptance) and AZ caught a little flat footed.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:22 pm
by chiefzona
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Not sure what thread to put in...

With News that Casteel going to UTEP, thought it was interesting that UTEP had a media release on Jan. 4th stating they would announce their new coordinators tomorrow the 14th. Announced 10 days before they scheduled a news conference.

The 4th the same day AZ announced that Casteel and Kirelawich would not be back.

Looking at some of the local UTEP media from the 4th release, multiple were saying UTEP (sources) had already lined up their coordinators couple weeks before that, of their 4th media release.
Are you implying that Casteel wasn't fired?
Implying that it may have turned into a mutual. UTEP a step down on the resume. I would assume going to be a large step down in pay for Casteel. UTEP HC made $510k last year. Casteel - $670k.

Casteel hasn't made less than $400k since 2010. Conditions at AZ help with the decision(s). Whatever Negotiations took awhile, Casteel had a fall back (offer - pending his acceptance) and AZ caught a little flat footed.

You and I are on the same page my friend. The timing all points to it. It's easier for RR to say it was the most difficult situation he has ever faced in football because he saves face with the fan base, and Casteel looks like less of a crook. :shock:

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:47 pm
by Harvey Specter
chiefzona wrote:
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Not sure what thread to put in...

With News that Casteel going to UTEP, thought it was interesting that UTEP had a media release on Jan. 4th stating they would announce their new coordinators tomorrow the 14th. Announced 10 days before they scheduled a news conference.

The 4th the same day AZ announced that Casteel and Kirelawich would not be back.

Looking at some of the local UTEP media from the 4th release, multiple were saying UTEP (sources) had already lined up their coordinators couple weeks before that, of their 4th media release.
Are you implying that Casteel wasn't fired?
Implying that it may have turned into a mutual. UTEP a step down on the resume. I would assume going to be a large step down in pay for Casteel. UTEP HC made $510k last year. Casteel - $670k.

Casteel hasn't made less than $400k since 2010. Conditions at AZ help with the decision(s). Whatever Negotiations took awhile, Casteel had a fall back (offer - pending his acceptance) and AZ caught a little flat footed.

You and I are on the same page my friend. The timing all points to it. It's easier for RR to say it was the most difficult situation he has ever faced in football because he saves face with the fan base, and Casteel looks like less of a crook. :shock:
Why would Casteel look like a crook?

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:05 pm
by CalStateTempe
Jeez this average joe fan with access to the program?

No wonder we recruit like shit.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:12 pm
by chiefzona
Harvey Specter wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Not sure what thread to put in...

With News that Casteel going to UTEP, thought it was interesting that UTEP had a media release on Jan. 4th stating they would announce their new coordinators tomorrow the 14th. Announced 10 days before they scheduled a news conference.

The 4th the same day AZ announced that Casteel and Kirelawich would not be back.

Looking at some of the local UTEP media from the 4th release, multiple were saying UTEP (sources) had already lined up their coordinators couple weeks before that, of their 4th media release.
Are you implying that Casteel wasn't fired?
Implying that it may have turned into a mutual. UTEP a step down on the resume. I would assume going to be a large step down in pay for Casteel. UTEP HC made $510k last year. Casteel - $670k.

Casteel hasn't made less than $400k since 2010. Conditions at AZ help with the decision(s). Whatever Negotiations took awhile, Casteel had a fall back (offer - pending his acceptance) and AZ caught a little flat footed.

You and I are on the same page my friend. The timing all points to it. It's easier for RR to say it was the most difficult situation he has ever faced in football because he saves face with the fan base, and Casteel looks like less of a crook. :shock:
Why would Casteel look like a crook?
Robbed the defense and the fans then took a job for less pay. :lol:

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:36 pm
by whatisee
ooops

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:13 am
by catgrad97
CalStateTempe wrote:Jeez this average joe fan with access to the program?

No wonder we recruit like shit.
It's not like anybody in the program is, truly, aiming any higher than average.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:45 pm
by tgrumpy2
catgrad97 wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Jeez this average joe fan with access to the program?

No wonder we recruit like shit.
It's not like anybody in the program is, truly, aiming any higher than average.
Average? If someone could guarantee me we'd have an average defense next year, I'd take that with smiles. An average defense with our offense, I'll show you nine or ten wins or better. Caponi, good riddance. Considering what our defense has been, average wouldn't be a bad place to start. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if we bring some better coaches in here, people are going to be surprised at how much talent we actually have. Put them together with a few gunslingers we may bring in from the JUCO ranks and we might be starting to get somewhere. I say bring it on.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:58 pm
by Merkin
Best defense of the RichRod UA era was 70th of out 118. Last 2 years were in the 100s out of 125.

So heck yea, an average defense would be great with a superior offense.

Makes me wonder how Casteel was even in the running for a Div I team DC.

Re: Matt Caponi Departure

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:03 am
by catgrad97
tgrumpy2 wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Jeez this average joe fan with access to the program?

No wonder we recruit like shit.
It's not like anybody in the program is, truly, aiming any higher than average.
Average? If someone could guarantee me we'd have an average defense next year, I'd take that with smiles. An average defense with our offense, I'll show you nine or ten wins or better. Caponi, good riddance. Considering what our defense has been, average wouldn't be a bad place to start. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if we bring some better coaches in here, people are going to be surprised at how much talent we actually have. Put them together with a few gunslingers we may bring in from the JUCO ranks and we might be starting to get somewhere. I say bring it on.
Hey, I agree, but the names out there aren't filling me with that hope yet.