Stanford @Arizona discussion thread

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:39 am

Cats get screwed over again.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:50 am

so far that we know of that makes 8 of our 12 games ~730-815 PM starts.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:57 am

After further reflection I'm fine with night games.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:49 pm

whoa whoa whoa, merk - one step at a time. we need a thread to celebrate our bye week!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:50 pm

dirtbags wrote:whoa whoa whoa, merk - one step at a time. we need a thread to celebrate our bye week!

I'm taking the Bye Week plus the points.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:55 pm

Over/under on bye week injuries, 2?

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:30 pm

no bet!

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:15 pm

I will be foregoing this game to attend a Halloween Party. I don't love Halloween Parties but I hate driving 2 hrs to watch us get our ass handed to us and then driving back home at 1 in the morning. 3 aisle tickets in sect 22 row 54 with seat backs for sale(parking included). $55 each?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:24 pm

Merkin wrote:Cats get screwed over again.

How are the Cats getting screwed over exactly?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:28 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Merkin wrote:Cats get screwed over again.

How are the Cats getting screwed over exactly?

8 pm kickoff.

Even if it is a good game (doubtful) the stands will be empty at halftime. Kids off to the parties, mom and dad heading home to bed.

If Furd can beat ND without McCaffrey, what chance does the UA have?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:40 pm

Notre Dame isn't good and the Cats aren't as bad as Saturday showed.

Also the stands were embarrassing during a day game. TV execs choose the kickoff times and for good reason for them and for the schools in the form of payouts. Win and you are in prime time. Simple as that. No one is getting screwed here.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:22 pm

Come on, lets be real. Some truths

1) the USC game was a near sellout. Who cares how many showed up or woe left when. Who could blame them
2) We are as bad as we looked Saturday. The combination of little talent and injuries have made us a very real 0-9 possibility
3) ND would beat us by 2 TD's as will Stanford probably
4) There will be maybe 48K for this game if we are lucky as this off week will help the players but by next Saturday AZ football will be a forgone memory.
5) Can't blame the TV guys this year on when we play, we suck and one woudl hope it is on so late that no one will see the game or the score, especially recruits.

Burn it down GB. RR needs to be the CEO of Rita's nacho chip dip empire not the head coach at AZ

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:38 pm

Merkin wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Merkin wrote:Cats get screwed over again.

How are the Cats getting screwed over exactly?
8 pm kickoff.

Even if it is a good game (doubtful) the stands will be empty at halftime. Kids off to the parties, mom and dad heading home to bed.

If Furd can beat ND without McCaffrey, what chance does the UA have?

Don't forget holloween is that Monday. The Zoo will be empty (what else is new...yeah I said it) and the GP will be bad too.

The company I work for has a tailgate for homecoming but I might be skipping that too. For what I witnessed Saturday, it may be a while before I go to another game.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:17 am

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:25 am

8 pm on the night of a lot of Halloween events...yeahhh the student section will be half empty at kickoff and the whole stadium will be 80% empty by the 3rd quarter if we're getting demolished again.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:56 am

The glass man.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:59 am

Without a running game I think Anu gives us the best chance of winning. Let him throw it 50 times a game. Move the chains. Throw to run

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:17 am

azcat49 wrote:Without a running game I think Anu gives us the best chance of winning. Let him throw it 50 times a game. Move the chains. Throw to run

I can agree with that. Stanford just needs to put a spy on Dawkins and his advantage is negated. Especially when he has gone through the concussion protocol and may be less willing to take off as Solomon is now. Just put the best blocker back there to give Solomon some time.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:56 am

So wilson is out for stanford then. oh well.

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:08 am

Lets fool with Stanford's minds.

Start Anu at QB, Dawkins at WR and Tate at RB, and Morin at TE

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:16 pm

Give the ball to Green on inside runs and Let TJ run outside that's the only way we can keep the teams honest

The Butcher · Post by **The Butcher** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:05 pm

I'm pretty sure Tate doesn't want to do it, but I'd line him up at RB and have Anu or Dawkins at qb. Design some RB throws. As in, hand off to Tate, he takes a step or two backwards and lets it fly.

Kid, you wanted to play. Let's play you anywhere.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:57 pm

As fragile as Solomon and possibly Dawkins is there is no way Tate should see the field outside of QB.

Not sure a 17/18 year old QB could even try an block a 240 pound linebacker blitzing.

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:57 pm

I've bandied that idea around with my friends now for a week or two about maybe putting Tate at running back temporarily. Everyone hangs their head and shakes it and goes....oh no, he's a quarterback and now you might get him hurt. Guess what in case anyone hasn't noticed, you can get hurt playing quarterback too. He obviously has great vision and sees the field well so I say over the next week or so give him as many handoffs in practice as you can and if you really wanna mess with Stanford, run some two back sets with Dawkins or Green or Tyler and keep them completely off balance. These are trying times and trying times call for extreme measures. I'm all for it.

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:01 pm

Merkin wrote:As fragile as Solomon and possibly Dawkins is there is no way Tate should see the field outside of QB.

Not sure a 17/18 year old QB could even try an block a 240 pound linebacker blitzing.

That's silly, I watched Tate on one of his runs take on a linebacker. He put his shoulder into him and put him in the dirt.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:06 pm

tgrumpy2 wrote:
Merkin wrote:As fragile as Solomon and possibly Dawkins is there is no way Tate should see the field outside of QB.

Not sure a 17/18 year old QB could even try an block a 240 pound linebacker blitzing.

That's silly, I watched Tate on one of his runs take on a linebacker. He put his shoulder into him and put him in the dirt.

Saw Solomon do the same thing as a freshman. Look at him now.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:27 pm

Our best chance to beat the Trees (and we don't have much of a chance with our smallish DL) is to get Solomon healthy and throw the ball.

I know the majority of the board is sour on Anu and enamored with Dawkins but our best chance at generating offense for the remainder of the year will be by throwing the ball........and Solomon is our best passer.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:25 am

dmjcat wrote:and Solomon is our best passer.

Very true, although he is no Nick Foles. Still tends to overthrow receivers, and was unable to go through all his check offs when he did play.

Since he is not 100% with his knee, not sure how he could plant successfully to get off good throws.

To tell you the truth, I am not really enamored with any of the QBs. Although Tate was destroyed by USC, he was only 17 then and hopefully this didn't do anything to hurt his confidence which does happen to true frosh QBs playing real Div 1 teams.

The Stanford DL goes 261-295, so not overly huge like USC. Since the Cats really don't have a chance against Furd, I'd probably go with Tate to give him more experience until Solomon is 100% healed.

Just beat ASU. That's all I care about. Save Wilson too for ASU since he can't make it through any game without getting hurt again.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:25 am

Um have you seen Stanford play? Cats have a chance

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:42 am

Cats give up 50 pounds per man on the DL to Furd's OL, besides a whole level of recruiting.

Christian McCaffrey will be back at full strength and will go for 150 yards.

Cats may keep it close for a half, as usual, until the smaller D wears down.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:13 am

I think Dawkin's arm is no worse than Anu's

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:44 am

Merkin wrote:
dmjcat wrote:and Solomon is our best passer.
Very true, although he is no Nick Foles. Still tends to overthrow receivers, and was unable to go through all his check offs when he did play.

Since he is not 100% with his knee, not sure how he could plant successfully to get off good throws.

To tell you the truth, I am not really enamored with any of the QBs. Although Tate was destroyed by USC, he was only 17 then and hopefully this didn't do anything to hurt his confidence which does happen to true frosh QBs playing real Div 1 teams.

The Stanford DL goes 261-295, so not overly huge like USC. Since the Cats really don't have a chance against Furd, I'd probably go with Tate to give him more experience until Solomon is 100% healed.

Just beat ASU. That's all I care about. Save Wilson too for ASU since he can't make it through any game without getting hurt again.

Tate is Jerrard Randall 2.0 IMO. I think the LA schools pegged him accurately as a WR/DB, which is where he should end up.

If Anu is capable of playing he should, as he gives us our best chance of a win.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:45 pm

PHXCATS wrote:Um have you seen Stanford play? Cats have a chance

I hope your not boosting your confidence because Colorado beat Stanford 10-5 in a ugly fashion.

Stanford is going to be one piss off team and I don't see our defense doing the exact of what Colorado did.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:41 am

Merkin wrote:
dmjcat wrote:and Solomon is our best passer.

Just beat ASU. That's all I care about.

Me too.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:07 pm

Arizona is 47th getting 433.6 yards a game.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:09 pm

Stanford is 41st in total defense giving up 365.9 yards a game.
Arizona is 114th giving up 474.6 yards a game.

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:50 pm

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:10 pm

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:49 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:I think Dawkin's arm is no worse than Anu's

He's got a better arm than Anu, doesn't mean he's a better passer. Anu is great at checkdowns and going through reads. Dawkins panics and runs away at any sight of pressure. Anu consistently has 300 yard games, with 40-50 attempts, Dawkins has never had a 300 yard game and sometime gets up to like 28 attempts. It's clear who he trusts more in the passing game and Anu gives the best chance to win.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:09 pm

I have heard that it us doubtful Anu starts much less plays against Furd.

Supposedly it will be Dawkins then Tate with Morin playing RB

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:01 pm

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:15 pm

Hope your right and it's not just more coach speak from RR

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:19 pm

azcat49 wrote:Hope your right and it's not just more coach speak from RR

I doubt we see Solomon.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:08 pm

catinfl wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:I think Dawkin's arm is no worse than Anu's
He's got a better arm than Anu, doesn't mean he's a better passer. Anu is great at checkdowns and going through reads. Dawkins panics and runs away at any sight of pressure. Anu consistently has 300 yard games, with 40-50 attempts, Dawkins has never had a 300 yard game and sometime gets up to like 28 attempts. It's clear who he trusts more in the passing game and Anu gives the best chance to win.

Really, cause at the BYU game all he did was lock in on one received and telegraph all his passes.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:47 pm

Small chance I can get free tickets for Saturday... I'm depressed knowing I don't know if I'll accept them or not. A game that finishes at 1130 is way past my bedtime.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:05 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:Small chance I can get free tickets for Saturday... I'm depressed knowing I don't know if I'll accept them or not. A game that finishes at 1130 is way past my bedtime.

Accept them! Heck, the game will be technically be over by 9pm and no need to stick around watching the trees benchwarmers run up the score.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:43 pm

Didn't get the tickets so I'm off the hook :/

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:28 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:
catinfl wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:I think Dawkin's arm is no worse than Anu's
He's got a better arm than Anu, doesn't mean he's a better passer. Anu is great at checkdowns and going through reads. Dawkins panics and runs away at any sight of pressure. Anu consistently has 300 yard games, with 40-50 attempts, Dawkins has never had a 300 yard game and sometime gets up to like 28 attempts. It's clear who he trusts more in the passing game and Anu gives the best chance to win.

Really, cause at the BYU game all he did was lock in on one received and telegraph all his passes.

Yeah that comment made me scratch my head, too.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:59 pm

Another awful display by the zoo.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:05 pm

I would't stick around for this garbage when there's hoes to bang.

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