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Is white interested of coming to Arizona if offer the position. I highly doubt it he is all in for RR at this point.azcat49 wrote:White is the clear choice but why not cordero? He is all in on RR
Or you go to a program that is on the rise, and likely coming off a 10 win season. More money. Nebraska football. No brainerChicat wrote:I agree Razor. It would seem that of all the potential negatives, jumping onto a ship which while not currently sinking, seems to be taking on water. Why leave where you're comfortable to go coach some place where you only can get one year contracts and the coach is in the last year of his and is coming off a shit performance?
And also you can look at it like "if I can get kids to go to some school with no history, hundreds/thousands of miles from home, out in the middle of the desert, coming off a 3-9 season, just think what I can do for you Mr. Blue Blood".Merkin wrote:However, if the ship gets righted, esp. on defense then when RichRod gets fired/quits, then the other teams will be looking for the bright spots on the UA staff.
UA was 115/128 this past season in total defense which is a typical Casteel 3-3-5 year. If Yates and staff can get that up the 80s or 70s than that would be quite an impressive feat.
Looking at the stats, even Cal, Oregon and ASU had worst defenses.
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/ ... team/22/p3" target="_blank
eh Tucson isn't Pullman or Starkville, MS. There are many far harder places to recruit kids than here.Chicat wrote:And also you can look at it like "if I can get kids to go to some school with no history, hundreds/thousands of miles from home, out in the middle of the desert, coming off a 3-9 season, just think what I can do for you Mr. Blue Blood".Merkin wrote:However, if the ship gets righted, esp. on defense then when RichRod gets fired/quits, then the other teams will be looking for the bright spots on the UA staff.
UA was 115/128 this past season in total defense which is a typical Casteel 3-3-5 year. If Yates and staff can get that up the 80s or 70s than that would be quite an impressive feat.
Looking at the stats, even Cal, Oregon and ASU had worst defenses.
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/ ... team/22/p3" target="_blank
I dinged Donte for going to Nebraska where in many ways the school's reputation recruits all on its own, so maybe that kind of thing could work in our favor. If you can recruit kids to Tucson, you can probably recruit kids to anywhere.
Chicat wrote:That doesn't mean it's not hard to recruit to UA.
cordera89 wrote:How does RR sell to a position coach knowing that he will only be their for one and only season?
Ok great. Thank you for establishing that. Thought that might be obvious since we're a Power 5 school in a warm climate and we're not Southern Idaho or Morgan State, but hey, gotta make it known.ASUHATER! wrote:No, but it's nowhere near the hardest.
But RR has been beating the "better recruiting" drum ever since that 8 game losing streak. He can't say, "we're doing just fine with recruiting and don't need to replace Williams with someone of his caliber", especially since it was his hiring last year which bought RR some leeway at the end of his flirtation with South Carolina.tgrumpy2 wrote:All of the above reasons are why I think they'll promote someone from within this year. If RR rights the ship they may take another look at it next year. But I don't see any sane coach leaving a stable gig to come here right now.
ASUHATER! wrote:i agree there. i can't see why any top recruiter would want to come spend a year at a sinking ship where they'll probably be let go after 9-11 months on the job when RR gets fired.
He just needs someone else that loves to wallow in mediocrity. Keep banging that drum Cordera. It is loud enough that the entire forum can hear you.cordera89 wrote:Same ole, Same ole you guys are expecting him to be fired regardless. He doesn't really need a home run hired on a Position coach with the same set up skill as DW. He just need to honest with a Position Coach that is willing to come in and do the job that being ask to do, regardless of his situation.
Chicat wrote:But RR has been beating the "better recruiting" drum ever since that 8 game losing streak. He can't say, "we're doing just fine with recruiting and don't need to replace Williams with someone of his caliber", especially since it was his hiring last year which bought RR some leeway at the end of his flirtation with South Carolina.tgrumpy2 wrote:All of the above reasons are why I think they'll promote someone from within this year. If RR rights the ship they may take another look at it next year. But I don't see any sane coach leaving a stable gig to come here right now.
Just to throw some names out there, what about...
Chris Vaughn - Texas- No
Brian Jean-Mary - Texas-No
Mike Elston - Notre Dame- Maybe if we switch Yates to coach DB and him coach LB and make both Co DC.
Derek Jones - Duke I make him the Special Team Coach if offer that position.
Don Pellum - Oregon LB coach at best.
Willie Martinez - Tennessee Tough Call but would he leave Tennessee of the SEC.
Kevin Curtis - Louisiana Tech- Another Decent Secondary which is good.
I don't think the entire forum is hearing me say RR will be fired by next season? RR was confident in the Recruiting class this season until DW left. I'm confident enough that RR will get the team improve next season? It just not loud enough for the entire forum to hear (It).WildcatStunner wrote:He just needs someone else that loves to wallow in mediocrity. Keep banging that drum Cordera. It is loud enough that the entire forum can hear you.cordera89 wrote:Same ole, Same ole you guys are expecting him to be fired regardless. He doesn't really need a home run hired on a Position coach with the same set up skill as DW. He just need to honest with a Position Coach that is willing to come in and do the job that being ask to do, regardless of his situation.
What in the fuck are you talking about? Do you have a list of names? Or are you thinking we'll just go through the season without a DBs coach?cordera89 wrote:Chicat wrote:But RR has been beating the "better recruiting" drum ever since that 8 game losing streak. He can't say, "we're doing just fine with recruiting and don't need to replace Williams with someone of his caliber", especially since it was his hiring last year which bought RR some leeway at the end of his flirtation with South Carolina.tgrumpy2 wrote:All of the above reasons are why I think they'll promote someone from within this year. If RR rights the ship they may take another look at it next year. But I don't see any sane coach leaving a stable gig to come here right now.
Just to throw some names out there, what about...
Chris Vaughn - Texas- No
Brian Jean-Mary - Texas-No
Mike Elston - Notre Dame- Maybe if we switch Yates to coach DB and him coach LB and make both Co DC.
Derek Jones - Duke I make him the Special Team Coach if offer that position.
Don Pellum - Oregon LB coach at best.
Willie Martinez - Tennessee Tough Call but would he leave Tennessee of the SEC.
Kevin Curtis - Louisiana Tech- Another Decent Secondary which is good.
Which one of these coach would be brave will be willing to take on Arizona challenge on One and done season. I'm surprise you didn't put Charlie Strong Name in their.
Chi stop your bitchin. I didn't say we need to go without a DB coach, The names weren't an issue. I'm saying which one of these coaches will be willing to come to Arizona under the situation that they might be here for One and Only season. What part did you not get.Chicat wrote:What in the fuck are you talking about? Do you have a list of names? Or are you thinking we'll just go through the season without a DBs coach?cordera89 wrote:Chicat wrote:But RR has been beating the "better recruiting" drum ever since that 8 game losing streak. He can't say, "we're doing just fine with recruiting and don't need to replace Williams with someone of his caliber", especially since it was his hiring last year which bought RR some leeway at the end of his flirtation with South Carolina.tgrumpy2 wrote:All of the above reasons are why I think they'll promote someone from within this year. If RR rights the ship they may take another look at it next year. But I don't see any sane coach leaving a stable gig to come here right now.
Just to throw some names out there, what about...
Chris Vaughn - Texas- No
Brian Jean-Mary - Texas-No
Mike Elston - Notre Dame- Maybe if we switch Yates to coach DB and him coach LB and make both Co DC.
Derek Jones - Duke I make him the Special Team Coach if offer that position.
Don Pellum - Oregon LB coach at best.
Willie Martinez - Tennessee Tough Call but would he leave Tennessee of the SEC.
Kevin Curtis - Louisiana Tech- Another Decent Secondary which is good.
Which one of these coach would be brave will be willing to take on Arizona challenge on One and done season. I'm surprise you didn't put Charlie Strong Name in their.
The Charlie Strong part for one. Between you and Beachcat this entire board is becoming unreadable. Why don't you try posting substantive for once in your life.cordera89 wrote:Chi stop your bitchin. I didn't say we need to go without a DB coach, The names weren't an issue. I'm saying which one of these coaches will be willing to come to Arizona under the situation that they might be here for One and Only season. What part did you not get.Chicat wrote:What in the fuck are you talking about? Do you have a list of names? Or are you thinking we'll just go through the season without a DBs coach?cordera89 wrote:Chicat wrote:But RR has been beating the "better recruiting" drum ever since that 8 game losing streak. He can't say, "we're doing just fine with recruiting and don't need to replace Williams with someone of his caliber", especially since it was his hiring last year which bought RR some leeway at the end of his flirtation with South Carolina.tgrumpy2 wrote:All of the above reasons are why I think they'll promote someone from within this year. If RR rights the ship they may take another look at it next year. But I don't see any sane coach leaving a stable gig to come here right now.
Just to throw some names out there, what about...
Chris Vaughn - Texas- No
Brian Jean-Mary - Texas-No
Mike Elston - Notre Dame- Maybe if we switch Yates to coach DB and him coach LB and make both Co DC.
Derek Jones - Duke I make him the Special Team Coach if offer that position.
Don Pellum - Oregon LB coach at best.
Willie Martinez - Tennessee Tough Call but would he leave Tennessee of the SEC.
Kevin Curtis - Louisiana Tech- Another Decent Secondary which is good.
Which one of these coach would be brave will be willing to take on Arizona challenge on One and done season. I'm surprise you didn't put Charlie Strong Name in their.
Chicat wrote:So you have zero opinion on any of the guys I mentioned. Great, thank you.
Personally, it would be great to get a guy from a big program that has ongoing coaching upheaval so that maybe we can flip some of their recruits.
In no world could Arizona afford Martin or White.cordera89 wrote:Tony White of SDSU?
Tee Martin of USC?
Scott White of UCLA?
I highly doubt you rush judgement before you saw it. Don't translate, Just read. But i am curious to get your point on list name i mention. But sadly those names are not Cornerbacks coaches but Lead Recruiters.Chicat wrote:I didn't ignore it. I didn't see you edited my post. Too busy trying to translate what you wrote.
I tried to pick guys who were either affordable or in situations where they either are already or soon would be looking for a job. I also only looked at DB/LB coaches.catinfl wrote:In no world could Arizona afford Martin or White.cordera89 wrote:Tony White of SDSU?
Tee Martin of USC?
Scott White of UCLA?
So SDSU can outpay a power 5 conference school? Maybe we need to move to the MWC thencatinfl wrote:In no world could Arizona afford Martin or White.cordera89 wrote:Tony White of SDSU?
Tee Martin of USC?
Scott White of UCLA?
Chicat wrote:But RR has been beating the "better recruiting" drum ever since that 8 game losing streak. He can't say, "we're doing just fine with recruiting and don't need to replace Williams with someone of his caliber", especially since it was his hiring last year which bought RR some leeway at the end of his flirtation with South Carolina.tgrumpy2 wrote:All of the above reasons are why I think they'll promote someone from within this year. If RR rights the ship they may take another look at it next year. But I don't see any sane coach leaving a stable gig to come here right now.
Just to throw some names out there, what about...
Chris Vaughn - Texas
Brian Jean-Mary - Texas
Mike Elston - Notre Dame
Derek Jones - Duke
Don Pellum - Oregon
Willie Martinez - Tennessee
Kevin Curtis - Louisiana Tech
Especially any place that refuses to give out multi year contracts.azpenguin wrote:"Rent, don't buy" is good advice for any assistant coach anywhere.
Lord, won't ya buy me a Mer say deez Benzcordera89 wrote:Tony White of SDSU?
Tee Martin of USC?
Scott White of UCLA?
Do you know who RR is going to call or are we just speculating on who he should call.Chicat wrote:I read up a bit on Courtney Viney from Oklahoma. I definitely hope he gets a call.
I know who he's going to call. In fact, I'm going to dial the phone. Hope it's not a rotary.cordera89 wrote:Do you know who RR is going to call or are we just speculating on who he should call.Chicat wrote:I read up a bit on Courtney Viney from Oklahoma. I definitely hope he gets a call.
Chi,Chicat wrote:I know who he's going to call. In fact, I'm going to dial the phone. Hope it's not a rotary.cordera89 wrote:Do you know who RR is going to call or are we just speculating on who he should call.Chicat wrote:I read up a bit on Courtney Viney from Oklahoma. I definitely hope he gets a call.
You need to send a telegraph. Doesn't have a phone.Chicat wrote:I know who he's going to call. In fact, I'm going to dial the phone. Hope it's not a rotary.cordera89 wrote:Do you know who RR is going to call or are we just speculating on who he should call.Chicat wrote:I read up a bit on Courtney Viney from Oklahoma. I definitely hope he gets a call.