Coach Sumlin

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:03 pm

Welcome Coach!

All things Sumlin here...

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:11 pm

First critical post of a long thread:

He was never a stellar defensive coordinator.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:11 pm

Bring on the pimp cane

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:13 pm

Talent cures almost all ills. Our defenses couldn't ever improve under RR since we had walk-ons and 2 start guys and no depth. Get some talent in the program and it'll improve automatically. Will we become a top 10 defense? Probably not under Sumlin, but I'll settle for top 60 or 70 instead of bottom 15 every year.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:15 pm

1st major question:

Keeping Yates?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:16 pm

Alieberman wrote:1st major question:

Keeping Yates?

I'd think it's a strong possibility since they've worked together and the players really want it.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:17 pm

All things are downhill from here, and in the best way. Sumlin will tear things up in Tucson.

Welcome to the Wildcat family Coach!

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:18 pm

Amazing!

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:22 pm

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:33 pm

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:37 pm

Now we wait and see for how much.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:38 pm

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:40 pm

Mazzone?

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:41 pm

At least 12 mill I guess

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:46 pm

NYCat wrote:

If this is true, we got exactly what everyone wanted.

Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah!

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:47 pm

I never liked facing Noels offense, so thats exciting. I have no idea you Clarence McKinney is. Any insight?

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:47 pm

Alieberman wrote:1st major question:

Keeping Yates?

I think it's beneficial for any new coach to keep at least one member of the old staff that all the players respect. Obviously that's Yates. I wouldn't mind seeing us look for a different defensive line coach. That is the area of biggest concern for me. That and special teams.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:49 pm

OSUCat wrote:I never liked facing Noels offense, so thats exciting. I have no idea you Clarence McKinney is. Any insight?

?

Looking at his 'croots though, pretty damn good. Obviously Arizona isnt TAMU

https://247sports.com/Coach/Clarence-McKinney-669" target="_blank

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:55 pm

Mazzone is the icing on the cake. That’s going piss off Tempe Normal so much.

KillerKlown · Post by **KillerKlown** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:55 pm

Any idea if we keep the new Online coach? He looks like a good get too.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:56 pm

prh · Post by **prh** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:00 pm

OSUCat wrote:I never liked facing Noels offense, so thats exciting. I have no idea you Clarence McKinney is. Any insight?

Chief is excited for him, so I would suspect he's a big recruiter

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:02 pm

In the short term Sumlin is an A hire in the short term. Attendance improves, Yates kept, recruiting ties already established in AZ, TX, and CA, a force of personality definitely needed.

In the long term this is likely more of a B hire.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:03 pm

Bring on the recruits!!!

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:08 pm

All of us deserve the commission for this deal more than the search firm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:11 pm

I don’t care how he got here, Heeke hit it out of the park.

Sumlin steps into a nice situation. A really young team that’s accustomed to punching above its weight. An incredible talent at the most important position on the field. A two week window to ramp up momentum by at the very least putting Arizona on the radar of some higher profile recruits. Facilities that have improved recently, and will continue to do so. And a fanbase that will buy in if he can improve upon this past year’s results.

This could be the start of something really nice for the University of Arizona. I’m all in.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:13 pm

UofAlum05 wrote:All of us deserve the commission for this deal more than the search firm

I agree. Where's my cut? At least we should be compensated for extreme emotional distress...

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:13 pm

Too bad Cecil isn't staying (per a post in other thread).
I think it's good to have guys like that involved in the program
Not necessarily as a coach

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:14 pm

It’s a home run. Big time. Cats are big players now. Time to act like big dogs.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:14 pm

I've been a Sumlin detractor but I'm relieved to have him over Ken N et al. Hoping for immediate success with Tate and at least a couple four stars signed for 2019.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:17 pm

I legit was about to start a GoFundMe today, half for AZ football to get Sumlin, half to Banner Diamond's Children Hospital. All to the hospital if he didn't come. Damn I should've and now people more than ever would've donated.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:18 pm

This season could resurrect the Zona Zoo. The schedule is favorable and we have marquee home games. Time to take the division with Tate under center and bring the Heisman Trophy to Tucson.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:18 pm

Stoked and glad we're keeping Yates. Great news!

lunchpailguy · Post by **lunchpailguy** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:20 pm

OSUCat wrote:I never liked facing Noels offense, so thats exciting. I have no idea you Clarence McKinney is. Any insight?

McKinney has been with Sumlin from day one at Houston. Former Houston HS coach with significant ties in the Houston area. Can recruit well and his RB's have shown great ball security.

Im thinking he will have tx recruiting responsibilities and would not be surprised to see KS add at least one well respected coach grom the HS ranks in AZ and or Cali as well!

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:21 pm

McKinney is a home run too. His work with Tilford will be key.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:23 pm

Is Yates cleaning house on defense?

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:30 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:I've been a Sumlin detractor but I'm relieved to have him over Ken N et al. Hoping for immediate success with Tate and at least a couple four stars signed for 2019.

I have also been a Sumlin detractor, but relieved for the same reason as TtG. And hopeful for UA football going forward. Welcom to the Wildcat family, Coach Sumlin.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:31 pm

Someone please, please tell Sumlin to keep program cancers away from the program!

prh · Post by **prh** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:35 pm

Chief, you've been concerned with the lines next year, especially o-line, and seems that would be the biggest thing (personnel wise) holding us back from a good year next year. How do your expectations for next year balance out between the new coaching staff and line concerns? Obviously it's fluid with potential recruiting changes (Dorian Gerald would be great), but I'm just trying to get a feel for how excited we should be for next year specifically.

Catintheheat · Post by **Catintheheat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:41 pm

Why doesn't Kevin Sumlin have another job yet?

Baby: You'll have to ask an athletic director and Sumlin that. It could be as simple as the right job isn't coming open. But it could be more complex than that. All of that remains to be seen.

Sumlin seems best-suited for a lower-tier "Power Five" job. I only observed him for two years, so keep that in mind as you read this paragraph. But if Sumlin wants to be an elite coach, he needs to be more even-keeled. His persona can fluctuate depending on how well the team is doing, and I don't know if that's a good recipe for a championship-winning program, at any level. If he solves that, he could easily be the coach everyone thought he'd be after 2012.

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threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:46 pm

Can’t help but think about the parallel with the Livengood/Floyd/Miller recruitment - basically just lucking into the best possible scenario. Welcome coach!!!!!

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:52 pm

Postmaster wrote:Too bad Cecil isn't staying (per a post in other thread).
I think it's good to have guys like that involved in the program
Not necessarily as a coach

The best thing Sumlin could do is keep Cecil and hire Hunley. They are certainly qualified to be somewhere on the staff.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:53 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:I've been a Sumlin detractor but I'm relieved to have him over Ken N et al. Hoping for immediate success with Tate and at least a couple four stars signed for 2019.

I am celebrating now but later in the week plan to outline some areas of caution with Sumlin.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:00 pm

Fucking knew it, awesome!

It’s go time....

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:00 pm

What's people's obsession with getting Arizona alum on staff? I'm sorry but most of them aren't good enough, definitely not as coaches or recruiters.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:05 pm

CatsbyAZ wrote:
TatetheGreat wrote:I've been a Sumlin detractor but I'm relieved to have him over Ken N et al. Hoping for immediate success with Tate and at least a couple four stars signed for 2019.
I am celebrating now but later in the week plan to outline some areas of caution with Sumlin.

There are plenty of areas of concern. But maybe he has learned some lessons and will thrive in the Pac-12. He has done well with inherited QBs (Keenum and Manziel).

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:05 pm

jimson wrote:
Postmaster wrote:Too bad Cecil isn't staying (per a post in other thread).
I think it's good to have guys like that involved in the program
Not necessarily as a coach
The best thing Sumlin could do is keep Cecil and hire Hunley. They are certainly qualified to be somewhere on the staff.

This would please old alums and accomplish .............

Sorry, I’m struggling here.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:08 pm

NYCat wrote:What's people's obsession with getting Arizona alum on staff? I'm sorry but most of them aren't good enough, definitely not as coaches or recruiters.

Maybe they would be good to report back to the AD if the coach is doing things detrimental to the program. Don't think an alum would be cool with the triangle of secrecy.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:09 pm

There should be no preconditions to Sumlin's staffing decisions. Other than salary constraints, he should be able to hire/fire anyone. I hope Yates wasn't foisted on him because the players pressured Heeke.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:23 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:There should be no preconditions to Sumlin's staffing decisions. Other than salary constraints, he should be able to hire/fire anyone. I hope Yates wasn't foisted on him because the players pressured Heeke.

They worked together in the past, so it’s an easy decision.

If the defense continues to lag it’s easy to let him go with the excuse that he was a “RichRod guy”.

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