The Random Thoughts Thread
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Just found out ZapCon is this weekend. it's a vintage video game/pinball convention.
http://www.zapcon.com/index.php
Games:
•720
•A. P. B.
•After Burner
•Altered Beast
•Arkanoid - Revenge of Doh
•Arkanoid
•Asteroids Deluxe
•Asteroids
•Battletoads
•Berzerk/Frenzy
•Bosconian
•Bubbles
•Capcom vs Snk 2
•Centipede
•Contra
•Crazy Climber
•Crystal Castles
•Defender
•Donkey Kong (cocktail)
•Donkey Kong Jr.
•Elevator Action
•Galaga
•Galaxian
•Gauntlet 2
•Gauntlet Legends
•Ghouls ’N Ghosts
•Golden Axe
•Gyruss
•Hang On
•Hit the Ice
•House of the Dead 2
•Joust 2
•Joust
•Karate Champ
•Klax
•Lady Bug
•Make Trax
•Mario Bros.
•Marvel vs Capcom 2
•Metroid (custom)
•Monaco GP (cabaret)
•Moon Patrol
•Moonwalker
•Mortal Kombat 2
•Mortal Kombat 3
•Mortal Kombat 4
•Mortal Kombat
•Ms. Pac-Man (cocktail)
•Ms. Pac-Man
•NBA Jam
•NFL Blitz 2000
•Neo Geo (Fatal Fury)
•Neo Geo (games TBD)
•Ninja gaden
•Nintendo VS System Red Tent
•Nintendo VS System: Excite Bike
•Off Road (2 player)
•On-Auk-Mor Pac-Man (custom)
•Pac-Man (cocktail)
•Paperboy
•Pole Position
•Polybius
•Q*bert
•R-Type
•Race Drivin’
•Rampart
•Rastan
•Rush’N Attack
•San Francisco Rush the Rock Alcatraz
•Satan’s Hollow
•Senko No Ronde (candy cab)
•Simpsons
•Solar Fox (cabaret)
•Space Harrier
•Space Invaders
•Space Paranoids (custom)
•Special Criminal Investigation
•Spy Hunter
•Star Wars
•Stargate
•Street Fighter 2 CE
•Super Buster Bros
•Super Mario Bros.
•Super Spacefortress Macross
•Super Sprint
•Super Street Fighter 2
•Tapper
•Target Terror Gold
•Tekken 2
•Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection
•Tempest
•Tetris
•Tron
•Turbo Out Run (cabaret)
•Video Pinball
•Wizard of Wor (cabaret)
•X-Men vs. Street Fighter
•Xybots
•Zaxxon
Pin Ball:
•AC/DC
•Addams Family
•Air Aces (EM)
•Asteroid Annie & the Aliens
•Avengers LE
•BMX
•Bad Cats
•Batman the Dark Knight
•Big Guns
•Black Hole
•Black Knight 2000
•Blackout
•Bram Stoker’s Dracula
•Bride of Pinbot
•Champion Pub
•Checkpoint
•Congo
•Creature from the Black Lagoon
•Devil’s Dare
•Diner
•Doctor Who
•Dr. Dude
•Elvira and the Party Monsters
•Embryon
•Firepower 2
•Fish Tales
•Flash (custom art)
•Flight 2000
•Freddy: A Nightmare on Elm St.
•Future Spa
•Game Show
•Getaway
•Gorgar
•Grand Lizard
•Guns N’ Roses
•Haunted House
•Hearts Spades (cocktail)
•Hook
•Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure
•Indy 500
•Iron Man
•Johnny Mnemonic
•Judge Dredd
•Laser Cue
•Lord of the Rings
•Lost World
•Mars God of War
•Medieval Madness
•Medusa
•Meteor
•Monster Bash
•Mr & Mrs. Pac-Man
•Mustang (EM)
•NASCAR
•NBA Fastbreak
•No Fear
•Paddock (EM)
•Paragon
•Pharaoh
•Playball
•Playboy (Bally)
•Playboy 35th Anniversary
•Red & Ted’s Road Show
•Revenge from Mars
•Road Kings
•Rollergames
•Scared Stiff
•Shadow
•Sharpshooter
•Simpsons Pinball Party
•Skateball
•Slugfest
•Space Station
•Spider-Man
•Spy Hunter
•Star Trek 25th Anniversary
•Star Trek: the Next Gen.
•Star Wars (DE)
•Stargate
•Strange Science
•Strike Zone (EM)
•Strikes & Spares
•Super Mario Bros.
•Surf ’n Safari
•Swords of Fury
•Tales from the Crypt
•Tales of the Arabian Nights
•Tee’d Off
•Terminator 2
•Terminator 3
•Theater of Magic
•Top Score (EM)
•Transformers Pro
•Tron: Legacy
•Twilight Zone
•WWF Royal Rumble
•Walking Dead LE
•Whirlwind
•Whitewater
•Who Dunnit
•Wizard!
•World Poker Tour
•X-Men LE - Wolverine
•X-men Pro
•Xenon
Should be a blast.
http://www.zapcon.com/index.php
Games:
•720
•A. P. B.
•After Burner
•Altered Beast
•Arkanoid - Revenge of Doh
•Arkanoid
•Asteroids Deluxe
•Asteroids
•Battletoads
•Berzerk/Frenzy
•Bosconian
•Bubbles
•Capcom vs Snk 2
•Centipede
•Contra
•Crazy Climber
•Crystal Castles
•Defender
•Donkey Kong (cocktail)
•Donkey Kong Jr.
•Elevator Action
•Galaga
•Galaxian
•Gauntlet 2
•Gauntlet Legends
•Ghouls ’N Ghosts
•Golden Axe
•Gyruss
•Hang On
•Hit the Ice
•House of the Dead 2
•Joust 2
•Joust
•Karate Champ
•Klax
•Lady Bug
•Make Trax
•Mario Bros.
•Marvel vs Capcom 2
•Metroid (custom)
•Monaco GP (cabaret)
•Moon Patrol
•Moonwalker
•Mortal Kombat 2
•Mortal Kombat 3
•Mortal Kombat 4
•Mortal Kombat
•Ms. Pac-Man (cocktail)
•Ms. Pac-Man
•NBA Jam
•NFL Blitz 2000
•Neo Geo (Fatal Fury)
•Neo Geo (games TBD)
•Ninja gaden
•Nintendo VS System Red Tent
•Nintendo VS System: Excite Bike
•Off Road (2 player)
•On-Auk-Mor Pac-Man (custom)
•Pac-Man (cocktail)
•Paperboy
•Pole Position
•Polybius
•Q*bert
•R-Type
•Race Drivin’
•Rampart
•Rastan
•Rush’N Attack
•San Francisco Rush the Rock Alcatraz
•Satan’s Hollow
•Senko No Ronde (candy cab)
•Simpsons
•Solar Fox (cabaret)
•Space Harrier
•Space Invaders
•Space Paranoids (custom)
•Special Criminal Investigation
•Spy Hunter
•Star Wars
•Stargate
•Street Fighter 2 CE
•Super Buster Bros
•Super Mario Bros.
•Super Spacefortress Macross
•Super Sprint
•Super Street Fighter 2
•Tapper
•Target Terror Gold
•Tekken 2
•Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection
•Tempest
•Tetris
•Tron
•Turbo Out Run (cabaret)
•Video Pinball
•Wizard of Wor (cabaret)
•X-Men vs. Street Fighter
•Xybots
•Zaxxon
Pin Ball:
•AC/DC
•Addams Family
•Air Aces (EM)
•Asteroid Annie & the Aliens
•Avengers LE
•BMX
•Bad Cats
•Batman the Dark Knight
•Big Guns
•Black Hole
•Black Knight 2000
•Blackout
•Bram Stoker’s Dracula
•Bride of Pinbot
•Champion Pub
•Checkpoint
•Congo
•Creature from the Black Lagoon
•Devil’s Dare
•Diner
•Doctor Who
•Dr. Dude
•Elvira and the Party Monsters
•Embryon
•Firepower 2
•Fish Tales
•Flash (custom art)
•Flight 2000
•Freddy: A Nightmare on Elm St.
•Future Spa
•Game Show
•Getaway
•Gorgar
•Grand Lizard
•Guns N’ Roses
•Haunted House
•Hearts Spades (cocktail)
•Hook
•Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure
•Indy 500
•Iron Man
•Johnny Mnemonic
•Judge Dredd
•Laser Cue
•Lord of the Rings
•Lost World
•Mars God of War
•Medieval Madness
•Medusa
•Meteor
•Monster Bash
•Mr & Mrs. Pac-Man
•Mustang (EM)
•NASCAR
•NBA Fastbreak
•No Fear
•Paddock (EM)
•Paragon
•Pharaoh
•Playball
•Playboy (Bally)
•Playboy 35th Anniversary
•Red & Ted’s Road Show
•Revenge from Mars
•Road Kings
•Rollergames
•Scared Stiff
•Shadow
•Sharpshooter
•Simpsons Pinball Party
•Skateball
•Slugfest
•Space Station
•Spider-Man
•Spy Hunter
•Star Trek 25th Anniversary
•Star Trek: the Next Gen.
•Star Wars (DE)
•Stargate
•Strange Science
•Strike Zone (EM)
•Strikes & Spares
•Super Mario Bros.
•Surf ’n Safari
•Swords of Fury
•Tales from the Crypt
•Tales of the Arabian Nights
•Tee’d Off
•Terminator 2
•Terminator 3
•Theater of Magic
•Top Score (EM)
•Transformers Pro
•Tron: Legacy
•Twilight Zone
•WWF Royal Rumble
•Walking Dead LE
•Whirlwind
•Whitewater
•Who Dunnit
•Wizard!
•World Poker Tour
•X-Men LE - Wolverine
•X-men Pro
•Xenon
Should be a blast.
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One day I'm going to tell my kids just how fucking cool I was . . . and they're still going to think I'm lame. Which is so essentially perfect.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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1. RE: Directv commercial.
If your problem is inability to record three programs at once, that's not your problem.
2. Paltrow is already hitting on me. She just likes me for my food stamps.
If your problem is inability to record three programs at once, that's not your problem.
2. Paltrow is already hitting on me. She just likes me for my food stamps.
Right where I want to be.
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re: DirectTV
Hannah Davis is not THAT hot.
Hannah Davis is not THAT hot.
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Nihilist Arby's is my new spirit animal.
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What if this is as good as it gets?
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How long is a piece of string?
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Miller's ceiling isn't the Elite Eight, butthole.Mr.Zebra wrote:What if this is as good as it gets?
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Residence Inn's are dangerous, because the rooms are big, have a kitchen, a living space, and a bed.
I can drink inside and strut around in my underwear like at home.
Almost forgot to put on pants to go down to get another beer from the market cafe at the front desk.
I can drink inside and strut around in my underwear like at home.
Almost forgot to put on pants to go down to get another beer from the market cafe at the front desk.
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I've noticed that, once a month, women go completely fucking mental for about 30 days.
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The words to the Louisville fight song should be replaced with:
They're the stinkiest of Cardinals,
They're the stinkiest bird,
It's a stink that stinks so much,
It's smelled, seen, felt, and heard.
They're the stinkiest of Cardinals,
They're the stinkiest bird,
It's a stink that stinks so much,
It's smelled, seen, felt, and heard.
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Why is it the best youtube videos are the ones in my dreams which I can't replay?
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Damn, my mother-in-law owned so much redundant sh*t.
Five hedge clippers, three ignitors, curtain rods in the hundreds, the same damn area rug in two rooms, kind of creepy collections of plastic detergent measuring cups and water bottle lids--yet STILL watched the SAME CRT TV right up until the day she died six weeks ago?
I've never heard of, much less moved, so many possessions out of a 700-square-foot manufactured home. No home should ever house china sets in the double digits.
RIP Clara, but you're the reason we went from parking one car behind the other in our garage to setting that as a September goal after four or five yard sales. Jesus...
Five hedge clippers, three ignitors, curtain rods in the hundreds, the same damn area rug in two rooms, kind of creepy collections of plastic detergent measuring cups and water bottle lids--yet STILL watched the SAME CRT TV right up until the day she died six weeks ago?
I've never heard of, much less moved, so many possessions out of a 700-square-foot manufactured home. No home should ever house china sets in the double digits.
RIP Clara, but you're the reason we went from parking one car behind the other in our garage to setting that as a September goal after four or five yard sales. Jesus...
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that's awesomeazgreg wrote:I don't see a problem with any of these toys.
http://www.trendzified.net/dangerous-toys/
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azgreg wrote:I don't see a problem with any of these toys.
http://www.trendzified.net/dangerous-toys/
I grew up with many of those. Had several chemistry sets, along with a lead melting kit. Made all kinds of lead soldiers. Used to melt down the lead weights from tires.
Also had wood burning kits too. One of my chemistry sets even had a radium sample. Back then glow in the dark watches used radium.
My Daisy b-b gun was probably the most dangerous though. Lawn Darts too I imagine.
Had a few burns from Creepy Crawlers too.
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I had a wood-burning set, but wasn't much interested.
When the switch to my electric football game broke, I just took it apart and would touch the ends of the wires to make it go. Shocked myself all the time, but it didn't stop me from playing.
Sometimes we'd play mumblety-peg or stretch with pocket knives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumblety-peg
When the switch to my electric football game broke, I just took it apart and would touch the ends of the wires to make it go. Shocked myself all the time, but it didn't stop me from playing.
Sometimes we'd play mumblety-peg or stretch with pocket knives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumblety-peg
Right where I want to be.
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YOWZA1azgreg wrote:I don't see a problem with any of these toys.
http://www.trendzified.net/dangerous-toys/
I was partial to pea shooters, sling-shots and water pistols in between my orange-fight frays in East Tucson with the buds. Would sneak into El Encanto, load up, and get out fast to start the action somewhere.
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My intro to Tucson culture was Country Swing at Stumble Inn and orange fights with the next door frat. Loaded up at Himmel Park after scouring the Sam Hughes Neighborhood.
Right where I want to be.
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I had rock fights on the playground with kids on our humongous playground growing up (thing was like 6 acres). we would hide behind trees and drainage pipes and just throw rocks at each other. seemed fine at the time. and this was only 20 years ago.
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Stumble Inn, Gumby? I heard they still talk about your moves at that place.
And oh yeah, Himmel park and the Sam Hughes lawn for orange fights. Himmel was good place to throw, and there were lots of places behind the pool building, fence and playground stuff to play D.
Down Tucson Blvd at the Speedway intersection was a great bakery. When I was 10-12 my buds and I would head down at 8:45AM to the alley behind the bakery to meet up the van delivering morning goodies to the bakery, and while the driver was inside with a delivery hop in the back of the truck and.........
Yeah, ScumDev, rocks were great too. Best one I ever caught was square on my forehead. Lots of blood. When someone asks about the scar I just say "Defending my country is tough, but someone has to do it.." Just kidding.
And oh yeah, Himmel park and the Sam Hughes lawn for orange fights. Himmel was good place to throw, and there were lots of places behind the pool building, fence and playground stuff to play D.
Down Tucson Blvd at the Speedway intersection was a great bakery. When I was 10-12 my buds and I would head down at 8:45AM to the alley behind the bakery to meet up the van delivering morning goodies to the bakery, and while the driver was inside with a delivery hop in the back of the truck and.........
Yeah, ScumDev, rocks were great too. Best one I ever caught was square on my forehead. Lots of blood. When someone asks about the scar I just say "Defending my country is tough, but someone has to do it.." Just kidding.
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Himmel Park is the first place where I got the wind knocked out of me when I was a kid. Running through the park, they have these sort of dips which I didn't see and wham, fell down and couldn't breathe. Thought I was dying.
Erlich Bachmann: Richard wrote the code, yes, but the inspiration was clear. Let me ask you something. How fast do you think you could jack off every guy in this room? Cause I know how long it would take me. And I could prove it.
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Didn't Himmel park have a locomotive you could climb on? Eventually they put a fence around it. Or was that some other Tucson park?
Used to be parks had all kinds of left war equipment like tanks and jets you could climb on.
Besides all parks having these:
Used to bring my kids here when they were little to Monterey's Dennis the Menace park.
Used to be parks had all kinds of left war equipment like tanks and jets you could climb on.
Besides all parks having these:
Used to bring my kids here when they were little to Monterey's Dennis the Menace park.
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Yup. I used to play on it when I was a kid. And what seemed, at the time, as a very long slide.
Erlich Bachmann: Richard wrote the code, yes, but the inspiration was clear. Let me ask you something. How fast do you think you could jack off every guy in this room? Cause I know how long it would take me. And I could prove it.
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Love where this thread when today!
Rock fights, orange fights, golf ball bombing with the dickhead kids a few streets over and a 9 iron. (we lived on the Tempe Chandler border so we would constantly screw with Chandler, they'd call the cops, but we were protected by jurisdiction)
Most epic battles where
1) a variant of the rock fight...the dirt clod war of 1st grade. Eventually lead to about 20-30 kids a recess going to opposite ends of the field and heaving the hell of dirt clods at each other. It was awesome the tufts to dust that would smoke up when they landed.
2) 16 year olds with license to drive and boredom...gummy worming. A bag of gummy worms, would drive up next to unsuspecting cars and Twack...we;d lick and launch them at other cars. Extra points if you got it to stick. That lasted until one of my friends got chased down by some old military vet back to his house and almost got pummeled until his dad came out to keep the peace.
3) "Snowing" Take the pick up truck to the Tempe ice rink on McClintock, wait till the zamboni was done and dumped the ice out back. Would load up the back of the pickup truck with ice/snow and go and leave it on random high school peoples cars, outside peoples doors, down basements, etc etc.
Good times.
Rock fights, orange fights, golf ball bombing with the dickhead kids a few streets over and a 9 iron. (we lived on the Tempe Chandler border so we would constantly screw with Chandler, they'd call the cops, but we were protected by jurisdiction)
Most epic battles where
1) a variant of the rock fight...the dirt clod war of 1st grade. Eventually lead to about 20-30 kids a recess going to opposite ends of the field and heaving the hell of dirt clods at each other. It was awesome the tufts to dust that would smoke up when they landed.
2) 16 year olds with license to drive and boredom...gummy worming. A bag of gummy worms, would drive up next to unsuspecting cars and Twack...we;d lick and launch them at other cars. Extra points if you got it to stick. That lasted until one of my friends got chased down by some old military vet back to his house and almost got pummeled until his dad came out to keep the peace.
3) "Snowing" Take the pick up truck to the Tempe ice rink on McClintock, wait till the zamboni was done and dumped the ice out back. Would load up the back of the pickup truck with ice/snow and go and leave it on random high school peoples cars, outside peoples doors, down basements, etc etc.
Good times.
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reminds me of one of the truly golden corners of the internet...azgreg wrote:
www.reddit.com/r/tifu
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I'd have tossed that resume in the trash simply for listing his hobbies. The excessive masturbation was the only one worth a damn.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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"Every place is a good place to be as long as you're safe and you have food to eat." -An older local man I talked to in Zagreb, Croatia a year and a half ago. that quote has been bouncing around in my head ever since. The guy has seen shit I can't even imagine, and he's absolutely right.
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Bottom middle for the win.
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If there were Mexican buffets, would Chinese people eat there?
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Why is it called "Dueling Banjos" when one of them is a guitar?
Right where I want to be.
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Anybody running Windows 10?
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Upgraded my laptop - working great so far. Made a reservation for my tablet but hasn't installed yet.azgreg wrote:Anybody running Windows 10?
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Every Tuesday at 11:00am we get a local test of the town tornado sirens and the emergency broadcast system.
If we ever were to have a tornado around mid-morning on a Tuesday, we'd all be fucked.
If we ever were to have a tornado around mid-morning on a Tuesday, we'd all be fucked.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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UAEebs86 wrote:Upgraded my laptop - working great so far. Made a reservation for my tablet but hasn't installed yet.azgreg wrote:Anybody running Windows 10?
You don't need a reservation, you can download it straight from MSFT.
I am 3 out 4 machines so far. Can't figure out why the 4th won't install, keeps asking for a key.
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How do you like it so far Merk?
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catgrad97 wrote:How do you like it so far Merk?
Love it on my laptop and tablet which were Windows 8.1 which I hated. The one desktop running 10 is fine, but really liked Windows 7, so if I can't upgrade my wife's Windows 7 desktop to 10 I am fine leaving it at 7.
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I've heard it's free to Windows 7 and 8 users...can older OSs upgrade for free as well? Still using XP on the desktop at the house.
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fiancee is having trouble downloading it on her brand new lap top. said it was ready to update but when she clicked on it nothing happened.
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Only 7 and above is free. No XP or Vista. Windows 7 Enterprise will also not be updated for free.catgrad97 wrote:I've heard it's free to Windows 7 and 8 users...can older OSs upgrade for free as well? Still using XP on the desktop at the house.
XP is totally unsupported now, and no updates will be provided by MSFT.
The 10 upgrade is only free for a year.
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Every time you mention your fiancée, I think....scumdevils86 wrote:fiancee is having trouble downloading it on her brand new lap top. said it was ready to update but when she clicked on it nothing happened.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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lmao yes
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All hail Operation Storm.
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This CMA Festival "Country's Night to Rock" is a crapfest of shitty songwriting. Decidedly not rocking.
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Country music is dead. Bro-Country and Metro-Politain Country is killing whatever is left in commercial country.
That "take your time" song and Keith Urban's "John Cougar, John Deere, and John 3:16" is pure tripe.
I've always thought of Urban as a mass produced fraud.
That "take your time" song and Keith Urban's "John Cougar, John Deere, and John 3:16" is pure tripe.
I've always thought of Urban as a mass produced fraud.
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I can't tell if Keith Urban is the Iggy Azalea of Country or if Iggy Azalea is the Keith Urban of Hip Hop.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Well, I can tell that I'll be Crushin' Brad Paisley if he sings that damn song one more time.