lets talk '16

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:33 pm

Frank Jackson to Duke.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:40 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.

Not a surprise.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:15 pm

Chicat wrote:I could write a book about assistants who offer kids even though no official offer would ever actually happen.

{Smacks forehead}

I just got this!

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:38 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.

Did we offer him?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:44 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.
Did we offer him?

Yes

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:54 pm

Chicat wrote:I could write a book about assistants who offer kids even though no official offer would ever actually happen.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:56 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.
Did we offer him?
Yes

So we're finally cooling off recruiting-wise, it seems. Still too early to say for sure, but '16 is not looking good.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:12 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.
Did we offer him?
Yes
So we're finally cooling off recruiting-wise, it seems. Still too early to say for sure, but '16 is not looking good.

Do you realize how many other top tier programs don't have top level commitments yet from 2016 players?

Don't forget, playing time will likely be scarce for freshmen in '16/'17 if everyone comes back. That's a loaded team with very few holes. I can't say I blame kids for looking at situations that might be more wide open.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:24 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.
Did we offer him?
Yes
So we're finally cooling off recruiting-wise, it seems. Still too early to say for sure, but '16 is not looking good.

We're getting Josh Jackson, we could fill out the rest of the class with Machina and his arcadia tavern crew and I'd be fine with it.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:09 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.
Did we offer him?
Yes
So we're finally cooling off recruiting-wise, it seems. Still too early to say for sure, but '16 is not looking good.

We haven't recruited him for a good while now and he went to Duke. It's not like he committed to Utah here.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:17 am

He was always Duke.

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:09 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.
Did we offer him?
Yes
So we're finally cooling off recruiting-wise, it seems. Still too early to say for sure, but '16 is not looking good.

BC, please read Chi, Choo-Choo, Puerco, et. al. Then, go to your room.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:53 am

Main Event wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.
Did we offer him?
Yes
So we're finally cooling off recruiting-wise, it seems. Still too early to say for sure, but '16 is not looking good.
We're getting Josh Jackson, we could fill out the rest of the class with Machina and his arcadia tavern crew and I'd be fine with it.

No way they'd accept. Miller has been disrespectful.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:54 am

EOCT wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.
Did we offer him?
Yes
So we're finally cooling off recruiting-wise, it seems. Still too early to say for sure, but '16 is not looking good.
BC, please read Chi, Choo-Choo, Puerco, et. al. Then, go to your room.

And Main Event? You left off Main Event!

My GOD!!!! We've LOST him!!!!

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:39 am

Chicat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Frank Jackson to Duke.
Did we offer him?
Yes
So we're finally cooling off recruiting-wise, it seems. Still too early to say for sure, but '16 is not looking good.
Do you realize how many other top tier programs don't have top level commitments yet from 2016 players?

Don't forget, playing time will likely be scarce for freshmen in '16/'17 if everyone comes back. That's a loaded team with very few holes. I can't say I blame kids for looking at situations that might be more wide open.

Good points, Chi. Let's hope we get JJ. The rest will work its way out.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:47 am

Lauri and Jackson or bust.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:07 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:Lauri and Jackson or bust.

So let's say we get both. We'll all be ecstatic. That '16 starting five could look like this:

PG - PJC
SG - Trier
SF - JJ
PF - LM
C - DR

Bench: Pitts, Kadeem, Simon, Comanche, maybe a transfer?

It's not a bad looking lineup.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:23 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Lauri and Jackson or bust.
So let's say we get both. We'll all be ecstatic. That '16 starting five could look like this:

PG - PJC
SG - Trier
SF - JJ
PF - LM
C - DR

Bench: Pitts, Kadeem, Simon, Comanche, maybe a transfer?

It's not a bad looking lineup.

how you gonna forget Ray??

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:28 pm

dcZONAfan wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Lauri and Jackson or bust.
So let's say we get both. We'll all be ecstatic. That '16 starting five could look like this:

PG - PJC
SG - Trier
SF - JJ
PF - LM
C - DR

Bench: Pitts, Kadeem, Simon, Comanche, maybe a transfer?

It's not a bad looking lineup.
how you gonna forget Ray??

I think he's one and done.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:06 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Lauri and Jackson or bust.
So let's say we get both. We'll all be ecstatic. That '16 starting five could look like this:

PG - PJC
SG - Trier
SF - JJ
PF - LM
C - DR

Bench: Pitts, Kadeem, Simon, Comanche, maybe a transfer?

It's not a bad looking lineup.
how you gonna forget Ray??
I think he's one and done.

No. He'd need a meteoric rise to get to that level.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:14 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Lauri and Jackson or bust.
So let's say we get both. We'll all be ecstatic. That '16 starting five could look like this:

PG - PJC
SG - Trier
SF - JJ
PF - LM
C - DR

Bench: Pitts, Kadeem, Simon, Comanche, maybe a transfer?

It's not a bad looking lineup.
how you gonna forget Ray??
I think he's one and done.
No. He'd need a meteoric rise to get to that level.

True, but it could happen. He's a freak athlete, and the NBA loves freak athletes.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:42 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
True, but it could happen. He's a freak athlete, and the NBA loves freak athletes.

I don't think he's a freak athlete. I mean he's a good one and all, but his best NBA attribute is his size for position and shooting. Andrew Wiggins is a freak athlete and I certainly wouldn't put Ray at that level. He's definitely the best NBA prospect on the team, but I strongly doubt he's a one and done. Now if he hadn't torn his ACL and missed a crucial year of development he probably would've been one imho.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:50 pm

Jackson would play both forward positions while Lauri would primarily be Ristic's backup IMHO.

Maybe the reason other recruits aren't giving Arizona more attention is because they're sensing Jackson is going to be the centerpiece of this team even more than Gordon was.

Add Lightfoot for some forward depth and call that a class.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:25 pm

This is Sean Miller we're talking about here. Lauri would start at the 4 immediately because Miller prefers having a big guy at the 4 instead of a true wing player. That's ignoring the fact Lauri is an actual pro talent. Jackson starts at the 2 or 3, Trier/Smith fills in at the other open spot. Smith/Jackson slide to the 4 when Lauri goes to the bench or slides to the 5.

A class of only Jackson and Lightfoot when you have at the minimum 4 open scholarships is just setting yourself up for failure in the future, especially if you're only taking one guy who is a contributor and also is a one and done. Lightfoot as another Korcheck does absolutely nothing for me personally, but whatever.

Lauri, Jackson, and the rest is whatever, although Jones would be real nice.

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:14 am

Updated Rivals 150:

https://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecr ... -3375/2016

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:54 am

the real dill wrote:Updated Rivals 150:

https://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecr ... -3375/2016

Only 4 top 30 recruits out west? FL has that many itself.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:58 am

Merkin wrote:
Only 4 top 30 recruits out west? FL has that many itself.

that 1 tho = perfect fit

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:07 am

97cats wrote:
Merkin wrote:
Only 4 top 30 recruits out west? FL has that many itself.

that 1 tho = perfect fit

Looking forward to "perfect fit" shifting to "right where we want to be."

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:35 pm

Except for when "right where we want to be" turns into him going to a conference foe.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:37 pm

When did that happen?

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:18 pm

Re post from a few weeks ago.

Predictions: 50%
http://247sports.com/Player/Josh-Jackson-21374

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:32 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:Except for when "right where we want to be" turns into him going to a conference foe.

I don't see any other Pac teams even in the conversation right now.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:33 pm

HiCat wrote:Re post from a few weeks ago.

Predictions: 50%
http://247sports.com/Player/Josh-Jackson-21374

I give much more weight to 97Cats' input. I think 247 predictions had Fultz coming to UA, and had Rabb coming here for most of his recruitment.

az91 · Post by **az91** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:43 pm

catgrad97 wrote:Jackson would play both forward positions while Lauri would primarily be Ristic's backup IMHO.

Maybe the reason other recruits aren't giving Arizona more attention is because they're sensing Jackson is going to be the centerpiece of this team even more than Gordon was.

Add Lightfoot for some forward depth and call that a class.

I hope Lightfoot commits soon. We could use some good news for a change when it comes to 2016.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:02 am

gronk4heisman wrote:Except for when "right where we want to be" turns into him going to a conference foe.

so when did that ever happen?

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:41 am

Jesus. Dude has forever been providing the board with information and updates to help put recruiting anxiety at ease and people got to throw jabs?

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:08 am

gumby wrote:When did that happen?

Rabb and Leaf. You guys need to relax, I'm not saying hearing this stuff from 97Cats isn't great and the most reliable info we get, but I prefer not to count my chickens before they hatch. Especially after the way recruiting has been trending the last 6+ months.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:17 am

He never said we were where we wanted to be with Rabb

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:18 am

gronk4heisman wrote:
gumby wrote:When did that happen?
Rabb. You guys need to relax, I'm not saying hearing this stuff from 97Cats isn't great and the most reliable info we get, but I prefer not to count my chickens before they hatch. Especially after the way recruiting has been trending the last 6+ months.

Wrong. And I'm totally relaxed.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:19 am

Is this imminent?

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:22 am

Harvey Specter wrote:
HiCat wrote:Re post from a few weeks ago.

Predictions: 50%
http://247sports.com/Player/Josh-Jackson-21374
I give much more weight to 97Cats' input. I think 247 predictions had Fultz coming to UA, and had Rabb coming here for most of his recruitment.

No, pretty sure we weren't jn the kead on the Fultz crystal ball. Was Louisville or Maryland - can't remember which. We were in 2nd, I think, and only one dude predicted Udub.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:23 am

Main Event wrote:He never said we were where we wanted to be with Rabb

If that wasn't said, then I must have inferred it from something else he said. My fault.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:27 am

gronk4heisman wrote:
Main Event wrote:He never said we were where we wanted to be with Rabb
If that wasn't said, then I must have inferred it from something else he said. My fault.

It wasn't. I just scanned both this thread and the Ivan Rabb thread, and 97 never said that.

He very well may have said it about Leaf . . . you know . . . because we actually were right where we wanted to be with him. Can't say that was a missed prediction. He was an Arizona commit for months.

Here's the thing: 97 is very clear about what's a feeling and what's a certainty. If you've got questions about which is which, just ask.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:27 am

http://www.scout.com/college/basketball ... g-dominoes

Evan Daniels: Earlier this week I said that I thought Kentucky and Duke will battle it out for the No. 1 recruiting class in 2016, so that means each will continue to and add more firepower to their recruiting classes. Duke already has a pair of five-star prospects (Jayson Tatum & Frank Jackson) and I expect them to add at least one more. While Kentucky has two highly touted four-star players (Sacha Killeya-Jones & Tai Wynyard), I'd be surprised if they didn't land at least two and likely more five-star players when it's said and done.

Arizona is another school that I expect to make huge gains in the near future. They currently don't have a pledge in the 2016 class, but they are in on some significant players like Andrew Jones, Lauri Markkanen, De'Aaron Fox (pictured above) and a host of others.

Um, JJ?

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:54 am

Jackson is probably a spring commit

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:36 pm

Right. Thanks

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:13 pm

Main Event wrote:Jackson is probably a spring commit

Man I hope so.

luteformayor2 · Post by **luteformayor2** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:50 pm

gumby wrote:http://www.scout.com/college/basketball ... g-dominoes

Evan Daniels: Earlier this week I said that I thought Kentucky and Duke will battle it out for the No. 1 recruiting class in 2016, so that means each will continue to and add more firepower to their recruiting classes. Duke already has a pair of five-star prospects (Jayson Tatum & Frank Jackson) and I expect them to add at least one more. While Kentucky has two highly touted four-star players (Sacha Killeya-Jones & Tai Wynyard), I'd be surprised if they didn't land at least two and likely more five-star players when it's said and done.

Arizona is another school that I expect to make huge gains in the near future. They currently don't have a pledge in the 2016 class, but they are in on some significant players like Andrew Jones, Lauri Markkanen, De'Aaron Fox (pictured above) and a host of others.
Um, JJ?

Since when have we been anywhere close to the top for D-Fox?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:25 pm

Puerco wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
HiCat wrote:Re post from a few weeks ago.

Predictions: 50%
http://247sports.com/Player/Josh-Jackson-21374
I give much more weight to 97Cats' input. I think 247 predictions had Fultz coming to UA, and had Rabb coming here for most of his recruitment.
No, pretty sure we weren't jn the kead on the Fultz crystal ball. Was Louisville or Maryland - can't remember which. We were in 2nd, I think, and only one dude predicted Udub.

In July the 247 'experts' were split 50/50 between AZ and Louisville. In August, Kentucky surged to the lead in the predictions poll, with us hanging in 2nd... UW was not even really in play.

http://247sports.com/Player/Markelle-Fultz-75821

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:35 pm

luteformayor2 wrote:
gumby wrote:http://www.scout.com/college/basketball ... g-dominoes

Evan Daniels: Earlier this week I said that I thought Kentucky and Duke will battle it out for the No. 1 recruiting class in 2016, so that means each will continue to and add more firepower to their recruiting classes. Duke already has a pair of five-star prospects (Jayson Tatum & Frank Jackson) and I expect them to add at least one more. While Kentucky has two highly touted four-star players (Sacha Killeya-Jones & Tai Wynyard), I'd be surprised if they didn't land at least two and likely more five-star players when it's said and done.

Arizona is another school that I expect to make huge gains in the near future. They currently don't have a pledge in the 2016 class, but they are in on some significant players like Andrew Jones, Lauri Markkanen, De'Aaron Fox (pictured above) and a host of others.
Um, JJ?
Since when have we been anywhere close to the top for D-Fox?

I guess we're near the top for him if near the top is third place behind Kentucky and Kansas. If we land Jones I'm not sure where Fox would fit in, although I'm sure the answer is in PJC's spot, and I'm 99% sure Miller would not do that. Miller needs as much good will in Los Angeles as he can get right now and recruiting over PJC just does not help the cause at all in that regard.

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