Game #4 vs UCLA Bruins discussion thread

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:26 pm

I think if Jones isn't able to go Saturday that RR would put Randall on the field at WR for some plays. He doesn't have to be thrown at, he just needs to keep some DBs busy. If they do slack on covering him he can get behind them in a hurry.

Still hoping to have full strength obviously, but there's options at WR.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:28 pm

azgreg wrote:

Crazy that there's no brace, sleeve, wrap or anything. Looks like the Cats may have dodged a bullet . . .

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:31 pm

Jesus will we ever get a break? Will Grant, Jones and Griffey all be not playing?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:36 pm

And T Johnson is still out but hopefully its precautionary on Jones and Grant. Guess we will see with Jones and Grant

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:38 pm

When was the last time this team was hit with injuries like this?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:43 pm

Looking at the ncaa injury lists for betting lines...we're pretty much at the top of the list nationally for # of injuries

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:44 pm

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:51 pm

Imagine what we could do if we have Gregory, Miller, Griffey, Scooby, Johnson, Jones and Grant all healthy in a couple weeks

RazorsEdgeAZ · Post by **RazorsEdgeAZ** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:33 pm

Herbstreit expects AZ game plan to load up against UCLA run game and force Rosen throw / make decisions

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13720561

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:40 pm

Guys. With this being a big game and both coaches known for posturing and peacocking, there are some smoke screens in hopes that the other coach doesn't game plan for it and vice versa. Wait till Thursday when the two injury reports come out. I have noticed that the Vegas pendulum has swung toward UCLA though. Relax guys.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:42 pm

RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:Herbstreit expects AZ game plan to load up against UCLA run game and force Rosen throw / make decisions

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13720561

If that's the case, big trouble. I think Casteel plays it safe and goes half run and half blitzing package and then adjusts at halftime.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:45 pm

Lets wait till Saturday to see how the sharp money goes. UCLA is always bet heavily, note last week they open as a 2 TD favorite over a good BYU team (Vegas looking for a line that would get some BYU lean) and still the bruin bettors took it to 17. Wasn't till just befor kick off that the sharp money brought it down to 15.5

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:46 pm

Mora doesn't release depth charts. I'd imagine his injury report is vague

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:48 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Mora doesn't release depth charts. I'd imagine his injury report is vague

RR's depth chart and injury report is just as vague. It's why I Tweeted earlier that these two coaches are birds of the same feather when it comes to this.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:05 pm

chiefzona wrote:Guys. With this being a big game and both coaches known for posturing and peacocking, there are some smoke screens in hopes that the other coach doesn't game plan for it and vice versa. Wait till Thursday when the two injury reports come out. I have noticed that the Vegas pendulum has swung toward UCLA though. Relax guys.

Would say it is normal stuff. Line was at 4.5 then moved to 3 or 3.5 now at 3.5 or 4. Not enough to read into and lots of sharps haven't bet yet.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:10 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Guys. With this being a big game and both coaches known for posturing and peacocking, there are some smoke screens in hopes that the other coach doesn't game plan for it and vice versa. Wait till Thursday when the two injury reports come out. I have noticed that the Vegas pendulum has swung toward UCLA though. Relax guys.
Would say it is. Or al stuff. Line was at 4.5 then moved to 3 or 3.5 now at 3.5 or 4. Not enough timeread into and lots of sharps haven't bet yet.

Totally. I see some Arizona mouth pieces completely trying to sell the injuries. It's funny. I would just start saying....hey...Miller is still a bit hurt so we are using him at TE because he played there when he was 10. I mean get stupid with it. Nick Wilson farted at practice and pulled a groin so he is day to day and might not play in the first half.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:53 pm

I'd bet big Jones and Grant play.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:06 pm

btfd16 wrote:I'd bet big Jones and Grant play.

Jones is in a boot and the pundits are screaming that it's legit!!!! How dare you bet big!!!!

dc4azcats · Post by **dc4azcats** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:12 pm

btfd16 wrote:I'd bet big Jones and Grant play.

I would as well. Anu was in a boot most of last season and still played on Saturdays. Again, nobody runs more during practice then the WR's do so why have guys dinged up - aggravate it more in a practice? The answer is you don't.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:29 pm

chiefzona wrote:Nick Wilson farted at practice and pulled a groin so he is day to day and might not play in the first half.

Just to be sure, keep him away from Los Betos.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:36 pm

azpenguin wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Nick Wilson farted at practice and pulled a groin so he is day to day and might not play in the first half.
Just to be sure, keep him away from Los Betos.

That or Viva burrito. Hell, Mama's even causes gas with Spam and eggs. Wilson is on a no gas diet, only fuel for the afterburners.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:37 am

Some trends

Bruins are 4-1 ATS against a team with a winning home record in their last 5 road games.

Cats are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games after a straight up win.

Under is 4-0 for the bruins after a straight up win

Favorite is 7-1 in their last 8 meetings

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:45 am

Message board panic via Twitter that Myles Jack might be out for the year. Unverified rumor right now

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:51 am

MrBug708 wrote:Message board panic via Twitter that Myles Jack might be out for the year. Unverified rumor right now

I heard he was playing QB.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:57 am

MrBug708 wrote:Message board panic via Twitter that Myles Jack might be out for the year. Unverified rumor right now

More rumor off the Arizona Football Chat FB group:

Miles Jack out for the year, Mora has a presser at 11am. That makes 3 defensive starters out!
— feeling excited.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:03 am

Jack tweeted "next man up" yesterday.

Cryptic, but it doesn't sound good. I know he's our adversary, but I wouldn't wish a season ending injury on anyone.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:06 am

Maybe he's referring to the Moreau injury.

azthrillhouse · Post by **azthrillhouse** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:08 am

I may not be a twitter expert but it looks like someone shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre.....if you search for Myles Jack on Twitter, all of the tweets seem to lead to this random dude in Chicago w/ 174 followers tweeting it out last night. Not exactly reputable.

Post by **UAdevil** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:13 am

DW99 can't post here so he's over at BRO talking junk. Ha ha!

http://www.scout.com/college/ucla/forum ... /174754823

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:15 am

Javier Morales on why UCLA has RichRod's number: http://allsportstucson.com/2015/09/22/a ... nder-mora/

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:27 am

Merkin wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Message board panic via Twitter that Myles Jack might be out for the year. Unverified rumor right now
More rumor off the Arizona Football Chat FB group:

Miles Jack out for the year, Mora has a presser at 11am. That makes 3 defensive starters out!
— feeling excited.

Not cool to be happy about injuries

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:34 am

Really sucks actually. Without Vanderdoes, Moreau, and Jack that's not the same team. If Jones and Grant are out it's really gonna be interesting because that's a lot of good players gone off both sides. Scooby practicing yesterday is huge and it looks like he will play.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:38 am

Sell out on the run on first down and make Rosen pass on 2nd and 3rd with blitz packages he has never seen before. Neal and company will need to be able to stay with their guy one on one but if that can happen I see lots of big plays on defense. I know that is obvious but I think they have the talent and Rosen lacks the experience where this could work well.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:41 am

Injuries are a part of football, and Arizona has definitely been dealing with their fair share. But I prefer opposing teams at full strength. Beat their best shot.

At the rate things are going for both teams, they're going to be playing flag football with third stringers on Saturday.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:49 am

Both schools should just say everyone is out and if anyone but walkons play its a shock.

I would like to add that while injuries can better the chances for the Cats, UCLA has Tempe next so it would be way too short sighted to not hope for the best with UCLA.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:50 am

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:52 am

Hate injuries. Part of the game, but it sucks.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:01 am

Sucks, but he's coming back next year now

azthrillhouse · Post by **azthrillhouse** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:03 am

guess I need to start following that random guy in Chicago

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:05 am

Terrible. Hoping for a full recovery. For all those kids on both sides.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:11 am

azthrillhouse · Post by **azthrillhouse** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:13 am

I'm not "excited" that he's out. Never want to see players get injured.

However.

Call me a craven coward, but I want the Cats to win as many games as possible, regardless of the competition. I will start worrying about whether we are beating teams at their best when my tongue is bleeding from biting down on so many rose stems.

So, my shameful little heart can't help but be excited by this news.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:19 am

PHXCATS wrote:Sell out on the run on first down and make Rosen pass on 2nd and 3rd with blitz packages he has never seen before. Neal and company will need to be able to stay with their guy one on one but if that can happen I see lots of big plays on defense. I know that is obvious but I think they have the talent and Rosen lacks the experience where this could work well.

Ucla had their D run a 335 in fall practice and I'd imagine also this week in practice. Some benefits of having Tom Bradley at WVa last year.

Jack is a loss but ucla has thevdepth. Next man up

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:19 am

azthrillhouse wrote:I'm not "excited" that he's out. Never want to see players get injured.

However.

Call me a craven coward, but I want the Cats to win as many games as possible, regardless of the competition. I will start worrying about whether we are beating teams at their best when my tongue is bleeding from biting down on so many rose stems.

So, my shameful little heart can't help but be excited by this news.

Great line

dc4azcats · Post by **dc4azcats** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:23 am

MrBug708 wrote:Sucks, but he's coming back next year now

It does suck. Wish him nothing but the best in his recovery. Really wish everybody was healthy for this game, shame that it's not the case.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:24 am

MrBug708 wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Sell out on the run on first down and make Rosen pass on 2nd and 3rd with blitz packages he has never seen before. Neal and company will need to be able to stay with their guy one on one but if that can happen I see lots of big plays on defense. I know that is obvious but I think they have the talent and Rosen lacks the experience where this could work well.
Ucla had their D run a 335 in fall practice and I'd imagine also this week in practice. Some benefits of having Tom Bradley at WVa last year.

Jack is a loss but ucla has thevdepth. Next man up

Nobody runs a 3-3-5. I read that somewhere, so you must be mistaken.

BTW, you are correct UCLA has lots of quality depth.

Catstatic · Post by **Catstatic** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:27 am

azthrillhouse wrote:I'm not "excited" that he's out. Never want to see players get injured.

However.

Call me a craven coward, but I want the Cats to win as many games as possible, regardless of the competition. I will start worrying about whether we are beating teams at their best when my tongue is bleeding from biting down on so many rose stems.

So, my shameful little heart can't help but be excited by this news.

Wasn't that part of ASU's success last year: rarely having to face first string QB's? Seems to me there were 4-5 teams that played their backup against the gerbils.

Go Cats!!

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:32 am

azthrillhouse wrote:I'm not "excited" that he's out. Never want to see players get injured.

However.

Call me a craven coward, but I want the Cats to win as many games as possible, regardless of the competition. I will start worrying about whether we are beating teams at their best when my tongue is bleeding from biting down on so many rose stems.

So, my shameful little heart can't help but be excited by this news.

A significant chunk of success in sports is luck. No shame in being honest my man.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:35 am

hate injuries for any team... hope for a speedy recovery..

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:38 am

MrBug708 wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Sell out on the run on first down and make Rosen pass on 2nd and 3rd with blitz packages he has never seen before. Neal and company will need to be able to stay with their guy one on one but if that can happen I see lots of big plays on defense. I know that is obvious but I think they have the talent and Rosen lacks the experience where this could work well.
Ucla had their D run a 335 in fall practice and I'd imagine also this week in practice. Some benefits of having Tom Bradley at WVa last year.

Jack is a loss but ucla has thevdepth. Next man up

Still doesn't mean that Rosen has seen things in game action. Still way different.

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