Ray Smith will miss the 2015-16 with torn ACL

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:36 am

Feel terrible for Ray. Here's to a full, smooth recovery.

As for us, while this injury obviously weakens our prospects for the upcoming season, let's put this in perspective. RS was likely not going to start, at least not right away. This opens the door for other guys to get playing time and improve faster. There's always a silver lining.

But again, this is mainly about Ray. He's part of the Wildcat family, and I hope this injury doesn't derail his hoops career too greatly.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:58 am

Shaun Livingston says "what?"

Worst knee injury I have ever seen and he came back.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:27 am

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:30 am

So Sean Miller has not declared Smith's basketball life over yet?

Has he not talked to Hater yet?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:43 am

Alieberman wrote:So Sean Miller has not declared Smith's basketball life over yet?

Has he not talked to Hater yet?

He never said that. Stop being a bitch.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:43 am

Looks like the U of A is saying it's only an ACL tear. That'd be very good news if that's the case.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:49 am

ASUHATER! wrote:
Alieberman wrote:So Sean Miller has not declared Smith's basketball life over yet?

Has he not talked to Hater yet?
He never said that. Stop being a bitch.

So I'm confused, are you still under the impression that Ray's career is over? If so how does it feel to be so dense?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:50 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Alieberman wrote:So Sean Miller has not declared Smith's basketball life over yet?

Has he not talked to Hater yet?
He never said that. Stop being a bitch.
So I'm confused, are you still under the impression that Ray's career is over? If so how does it feel to be so dense?

Please list your inside sources and medical knowledge that proves me wrong. I'll wait. and wait. And wait.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:00 am

ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Alieberman wrote:So Sean Miller has not declared Smith's basketball life over yet?

Has he not talked to Hater yet?
He never said that. Stop being a bitch.
So I'm confused, are you still under the impression that Ray's career is over? If so how does it feel to be so dense?
Please list your inside sources and medical knowledge that proves me wrong. I'll wait. and wait. And wait.

Who needs inside sources and medical knowledge when you can just aimlessly panic and throw feces out of your ass right? You keep telling the world how right you are Hater with absolutely no basis for your take. Lord knows somebody has to believe you're right.

There's genuinely nothing better than a guy with no inside sources or medical knowledge asking for others to provide inside sources or medical knowledge to prove him wrong.

prh · Post by **prh** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:04 am

I seem to remember an NFL running back tear an ACL and come back pretty strong recently. I forget his name, Adan Patterson, Petterson, idk, something like that?

I mean, seriously, we see torn ACLs all the time, people who work hard and work smart come back from these. To say that his career is done is absurd. If you have top notch medical care (which we do), then it boils down to the individual, and I think we can agree that Smith has it in him to come back strong.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:14 am

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:19 am

Especially since it's his other knee too.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:57 am

At least he knows what he's in for as far as rehab and recovery. And he knows he can come back from this, which is huge as far as mindset and work ethic.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:40 am

Chicat wrote:At least he knows what he's in for as far as rehab and recovery. And he knows he can come back from this, which is huge as far as mindset and work ethic.

great point. his knee should also be much stronger once it's healed (i think), and maybe this will help coalesce the team. and while we're searching for silver linings, if an injury like this had to happen, i suppose it's better that it occurred during the preseason rather than later. here's to a speedy and full recovery.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:40 pm

prh wrote:I seem to remember an NFL running back tear an ACL and come back pretty strong recently. I forget his name, Adan Patterson, Petterson, idk, something like that?

Slippy, slappy, Swenson, Swanson....

Maybe it's on the briefcase

Oh yeah...Samsonite! I was way off

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:19 pm

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:39 am

UAEebs86 wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:Is there a way to "Ignore" users here. I've had enough of this douchebag ASUhater's posts
Click on User Control Panel
Click on "Friends & Foes"
Click on "Manage Foes"
Click on "Find a member"

A quicker/easier method is to click on a user's name
then on that user's profile page click on "add foe"
then click on yes.

BigSkyCatinMT · Post by **BigSkyCatinMT** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:33 pm

I have only 2 concerns. First, is for Ray himself. 2nd, with two acl tears, hoping he doesn't have a disconnective tissue disorder like marphans, or other such as my wife has.

OK, make that one concern. Rays short-term, and long-term health.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:45 pm

Got the notification message Saturday morning as we were getting ready to walk to homecoming. Sat my buddies down and broke the news to them. We were in shock for what seemed like 10 minutes. Not even a chance he will see March Madness minutes. Feel so bad for him. I cant imagine what that practice was like when it happened.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:22 pm

Poor guy. Working hard to get back only to be hit with this.

Only silver lining, I assume he can redshirt and still have 4 years on his clock next year instead of losing a full year of eligibility for a game or two. That's just really bad luck. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:17 pm

Anybody see the pictures on Instagram of Ray smith walking around already handing season tickets. The post says it was tonight but that seems crazy early to be walking with our crutches am I wrong

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:19 pm

3goggles wrote:Anybody see the pictures on Instagram of Ray smith walking around already handing season tickets. The post says it was tonight but that seems crazy early to be walking with our crutches am I wrong

Probably hasn't had the surgery yet. Don't they wait a few days to let the swelling go down?

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:24 pm

Hadn't thought about that. But to be still walking with out crutches seems craZy

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:50 pm

You can still walk on an ACL tear prior to the surgery of course.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:51 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:You can still walk on an ACL tear prior to the surgery of course.

I've not personally known someone with a torn acl

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:36 pm

3goggles wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:You can still walk on an ACL tear prior to the surgery of course.
I've not personally known someone with a torn acl

I think when it's torn, it's torn. Can't tear it twice.

From knowing people who have torn it, just walking isn't bad. Running, planting, changing direction, jumping and landing at any speed, that's a different story. I've known people who've torn it and never fixed it. The knee is unstable as heck, but it is not impossible.

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:46 pm

Eebs, yes, they wait a few days to let swelling go down and make sure everything is cleaned out. The most important part (besides proper rehab of course) is to have everything perfectly prepared for surgery and be able to do it cleanly. It's not urgent to get surgery done. I think it's usually about a week between tear and surgery.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:40 pm

What crappy news, Poor kid. Especially after all he has been through, mentally and physically, after the prior injury. As for the team, yes it is a blow, but we got lots of depth. Answers our earlier questions of how minutes are going to be dispersed on the wing. He was definitely looking like a guy who, come march, may be one of our best players that would have elevated us to a deeper run. I still think this team has the roster to do the same.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:49 pm

prh wrote:Eebs, yes, they wait a few days to let swelling go down and make sure everything is cleaned out.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:13 am

Anyone know how Ray's doing with his recovery?

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:26 am

Per my inside sources, he is taking it one day at a time.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:33 am

rgdeuce wrote:Per my inside sources, he is taking it one day at a time.

Um, okay.

Just wondering how soon we might have a read on whether he's decided to attend college next year or whether he wants to align his rehab with the NBA Draft timeline.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:55 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Per my inside sources, he is taking it one day at a time.
Um, okay.

Just wondering how soon we might have a read on whether he's decided to attend college next year or whether he wants to align his rehab with the NBA Draft timeline.

He's going to go pro based on his junior year of HS tape?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:56 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Per my inside sources, he is taking it one day at a time.
Um, okay.

Just wondering how soon we might have a read on whether he's decided to attend college next year or whether he wants to align his rehab with the NBA Draft timeline.

If this is questioning whether he is leaving for the NBA, there's an easy answer to that.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:57 am

TucsonClip wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Per my inside sources, he is taking it one day at a time.
Um, okay.

Just wondering how soon we might have a read on whether he's decided to attend college next year or whether he wants to align his rehab with the NBA Draft timeline.
He's going to go pro based on his junior year of HS tape?

No, his ballislife mixtape. Those are basically the gold standard for NBA scouts.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:58 am

So ASUHATER thinks Ray Smith will never play basketball again and BeachCat thinks he's considering going straight to the Pros.

Perfect.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:37 pm

Asuhater thinks it would be smart for his long-term health and quality of life to never play again*

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:37 pm

ChooChooCat wants to know where ASUHATER was to give Frank Gore the same advice before he went on to a 10+ year NFL career after tearing both his ACLs? I've been waiting for you to give your mortuary on Tyrann Mathieu's career. I'm looking forward to it.

Long term health and quality of life? Do you even know what an ACL injury is nowadays?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:47 pm

Remember Shaun Livingston? Worse basketball injury I have seen. What's he doing now? Tore 2 *CLs and his meniscus, sprained his other *CL.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:52 pm

I'm sure Ray Smith will have a much higher quality of life by neither getting his college degree nor earning truckloads of money playing basketball.

Makes perfect sense.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:52 pm

Merkin wrote:Remember Shaun Livingston? Worse basketball injury I have seen. What's he doing now? Tore 2 *CLs and his meniscus, sprained his other *CL.

Key rotation player for the Warriors and won a title. Still making athletic plays.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:16 pm

Chicat wrote:I'm sure Ray Smith will have a much higher quality of life by neither getting his college degree nor earning truckloads of money playing basketball.

Makes perfect sense.

Giving up playing a game he loves because there is a possibility his knees could hurt when he is older. Forgoing a lifelong dream even though continuing to be active could reaggravate it, or if you just stop working out, you will get super fat, which is also bad for your knees.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:37 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Chicat wrote:I'm sure Ray Smith will have a much higher quality of life by neither getting his college degree nor earning truckloads of money playing basketball.

Makes perfect sense.
Giving up playing a game he loves because there is a possibility his knees could hurt when he is older. Forgoing a lifelong dream even though continuing to be active could reaggravate it, or if you just stop working out, you will get super fat, which is also bad for your knees.

What's great about this is that people somehow know that he will recover perfectly and be able to play at the same level and won't be even more injury prone after these multitude of serious injuries. What's your secret?

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:49 pm

When the going gets tough the tough.....quit what they have worked their whole lives for!

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:55 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:When the going gets tough the tough.....quit what they have worked their whole lives for!

When it comes to health, safety and quality of life any sane person would pick that over a couple percent chance of maybe making some money someday in some basketball league somewhere...maybe.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:58 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Chicat wrote:I'm sure Ray Smith will have a much higher quality of life by neither getting his college degree nor earning truckloads of money playing basketball.

Makes perfect sense.
Giving up playing a game he loves because there is a possibility his knees could hurt when he is older. Forgoing a lifelong dream even though continuing to be active could reaggravate it, or if you just stop working out, you will get super fat, which is also bad for your knees.
What's great about this is that people somehow know that he will recover perfectly and be able to play at the same level and won't be even more injury prone after these multitude of serious injuries. What's your secret?

It could go well. It could go poorly. According to you, he should just not try bc it would be bad for his long term health.

I played team basketball through college. Due to that I have no ligaments in my left ankle. I don't regret a minute of it.

Saying he should never play a minute more...maybe he should encase his entire body in a protective, inflatable bubble.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:31 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Merkin wrote:Remember Shaun Livingston? Worse basketball injury I have seen. What's he doing now? Tore 2 *CLs and his meniscus, sprained his other *CL.

Key rotation player for the Warriors and won a title. Still making athletic plays.

But what about his quality of life?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:39 pm

Alieberman wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Merkin wrote:Remember Shaun Livingston? Worse basketball injury I have seen. What's he doing now? Tore 2 *CLs and his meniscus, sprained his other *CL.
Key rotation player for the Warriors and won a title. Still making athletic plays.
But what about his quality of life?

Just fine I'd say:

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:29 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:When the going gets tough the tough.....quit what they have worked their whole lives for!
When it comes to health, safety and quality of life any sane person would pick that over a couple percent chance of maybe making some money someday in some basketball league somewhere...maybe.

So am I to believe that you're a health, safety, quality of life expert? Please provide your resume for all of us to see Doctor Hater.

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:37 pm

Good grief. Are you arguing just to argue and be a contrarian?

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