Coach Rod

RazorsEdgeAZ · Post by **RazorsEdgeAZ** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:10 pm

The WV AD felt like he had to actually address that "Credible Source" Rich Rod to WVU rumor. The one that Evan Massey (Fox Sports) quoted / referenced.

WV AD heading to AZ to see Diamondbacks President so he chimed in so people would not read the planned trip wrong.

Allow me a few moments and I’ll explain how rumors not only get started, but take flight.

Unfounded rumors, that is. If you’re an elder, you might even pass this on to your kids in hopes they’ll tread carefully in this barrage era of social media.

Now, if you’re a WVU fan with your ear to the ground or, more correctly, your eyes to the Internet, you probably have seen the latest rumor involving the possible ouster of Mountaineer Dana Holgorsen.

Evan Massey, a Fox Sports contributor and writer at Campus Sports Net, recently quoted a report that read, “Major donors in WV have ‘escorted’ WVU AD [Shane] Lyons to Arizona on private jets twice since WVU entered the death stretch of losses in October. They are already quietly raising the money to pay out Holgorsen’s contract and [Rich] Rodriguez’s buyout in [Arizona]. The only catch is [Virginia Tech] AD Whit Babcock, who is a long time [Rich Rodriguez] confidant. Either way, looks like RR is back east in ’16.”

It pains me to even address such a “report,” but I shall because of the aforementioned social-media crazed world in which we live.

“I’m not sure where this stuff started,” Lyons told the Gazette-Mail. “No, there’s nothing to it. Nothing.”

Pretty uncommon for an AD to shut an Internet rumor down.

http://www.wvgazettemail.com/article/20 ... 29586/1115

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:52 pm

It wont matter what WVU AD does. He tried to shut media down on speculation that his real reason to get RR out of Arizona to bring him home to WVU really. How many people would be stupid to not see that. Now do I think RR would take WVU back? Maybe, Maybe not. I still think RR would be at Arizona until he retires.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:40 pm

This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:47 pm

Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.

Yup. And doesn't affect football really but in the winter it often gets colder here than in Orange county. Oftentimes lows in the 25-35 degree range and the like.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:52 am

ASUHATER! wrote:
Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.
Yup. And doesn't affect football really but in the winter it often gets colder here than in Orange county. Oftentimes lows in the 25-35 degree range and the like.

Has now snowed out here in the 30 years I have been living in coastal CA. Tucson gets snow about once every 4 years? I recall a couple of years, one where it snowed in Tucson on Easter, and another time Tucson had the only white Christmas in the ConUS.

However, it does cool down rapidly at night here, unlike Arizona, so for night games AZ still rules.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:53 am

Merkin wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.
Yup. And doesn't affect football really but in the winter it often gets colder here than in Orange county. Oftentimes lows in the 25-35 degree range and the like.

Has now snowed out here in the 30 years I have been living in coastal CA. Tucson gets snow about once every 4 years? I recall a couple of years, one where it snowed in Tucson on Easter, and another time Tucson had the only white Christmas in the ConUS.

However, it does cool down rapidly at night here, unlike Arizona, so for night games AZ still rules.

? It cools down very rapidly at night in Arizona. Almost more than anywhere else. And it's actually snowed like 3-4 times in the last 8 years here in town. There was one 4 day stretch in February like 4 years ago where it was between 15-35 degrees every day.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:00 am

The 2013 "blizzard" , fun times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yosimkpAdlY" target="_blank

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:08 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
Merkin wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.
Yup. And doesn't affect football really but in the winter it often gets colder here than in Orange county. Oftentimes lows in the 25-35 degree range and the like.

Has now snowed out here in the 30 years I have been living in coastal CA. Tucson gets snow about once every 4 years? I recall a couple of years, one where it snowed in Tucson on Easter, and another time Tucson had the only white Christmas in the ConUS.

However, it does cool down rapidly at night here, unlike Arizona, so for night games AZ still rules.
? It cools down very rapidly at night in Arizona. Almost more than anywhere else. And it's actually snowed like 3-4 times in the last 8 years here in town. There was one 4 day stretch in February like 4 years ago where it was between 15-35 degrees every day.

You must try really hard to make as many erroneous statements as you do; it is truly a gift.

I assume you have never lived anywhere else? I have lived a handful of places where the temperature can get to 100 (or close) in the summer but the temperatures drops like a rock when the sun goes down.... To the point where you turn off the AC, open the windows, and cool your house down.

Here? Most people never open their windows for 6+ months of the year.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:56 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Merkin wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.
Yup. And doesn't affect football really but in the winter it often gets colder here than in Orange county. Oftentimes lows in the 25-35 degree range and the like.

Has now snowed out here in the 30 years I have been living in coastal CA. Tucson gets snow about once every 4 years? I recall a couple of years, one where it snowed in Tucson on Easter, and another time Tucson had the only white Christmas in the ConUS.

However, it does cool down rapidly at night here, unlike Arizona, so for night games AZ still rules.
? It cools down very rapidly at night in Arizona. Almost more than anywhere else. And it's actually snowed like 3-4 times in the last 8 years here in town. There was one 4 day stretch in February like 4 years ago where it was between 15-35 degrees every day.
You must try really hard to make as many erroneous statements as you do; it is truly a gift.

I assume you have never lived anywhere else? I have lived a handful of places where the temperature can get to 100 (or close) in the summer but the temperatures drops like a rock when the sun goes down.... To the point where you turn off the AC, open the windows, and cool your house down.

Here? Most people never open their windows for 6+ months of the year.

nowhere near the ocean is your statement correct. Basic science.

RazorsEdgeAZ · Post by **RazorsEdgeAZ** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:33 am

This could get some traction Internet chatter wise. This guy has been right and wrong in the past. Some things scary accurate. Other things scary wrong like big12 expansion.

Digest it with cynicism. Only posting because likely to hear all the Rich Rod talk.

He does say Rich Rod interested, but WVU not interested in Rich Rod

WVU Unhappy with Direction of Football Program
Posted on October 30, 2015 by thedudeofwv
According to sources close to the program WVU president E. Gordon Gee is unhappy with the direction of the Mountaineer program and will instruct Athletic Director Shane Lyons to terminate Dana Holgorsen’s contract at the end of the current season should the Mountaineers not win at least 8 games.

WVU 3-4 (0-4) has five games remaining including road contests with Kansas State and Kansas and home games with Texas Tech, Texas and Iowa State plus a possible bowl game.

Holgorsen’s buyout ($8 Million) will not be an issue.

WVU will conduct a national search for a experienced and proven football coach should a change be necessary.

Although no candidates were mentioned by name Rich Rodriguez has supporters among WVU’s most generous boosters and on the Board of Governors. Rodriquez has privately expressed interest in returning to WVU but has not been contacted.

Another candidate who may be given serious consideration is former Ohio State coach and current Youngstown State University president Jim Tressel.

Tressel has a NCAA “Show Cause” order in effect until December 2016 meaning that he would be suspended for the first five games of his initial season. WVU would also be banned from a bowl game that same year.

The same source cited Gee’s close personal relationship with Tressel and the possibility of appearing before the NCAA infraction committee to have the penalties reduced or nullified as reasons why Tressel would be a viable candidate.

https://therealdudeofwv.wordpress.com/2 ... l-program/

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:37 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
Here? Most people never open their windows for 6+ months of the year.
nowhere near the ocean is your statement correct. Basic science.

In coastal CA you always wear layers all year round. In AZ you can wear shorts and tank tops all day and all night in the summer.

Besides, AZ is full of weather wimps.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:28 pm

I had a bit of PM on Twitter with the Dude just after Casteel got hired - he was REALLY bummed that Jeff left the WVU program. There's a lot of love for that guy there.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:27 pm

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:49 pm

Merkin wrote:

If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:05 pm

Don't think any team wants a coach with 3 30+ point losses to conference foes.

Still USC and Utah to go too.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:22 pm

Salty wrote:
Merkin wrote:
If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

I hope RR does not leave, and would be disappointed if he does. I would not, however, be crushed.

And if he expresses interest in another coaching job as a way to leverage a raise, then I will expect Byrne to play a game of chicken. We are 17-17 in conference play, and very unlikely to finish >0.500 in conference play over the past 4 years.

Can we do better? Quite possibly not... But we're paying enough now for what we are getting.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:23 pm

If we don't fire casteel and see similar results next year...RR should be on the hot seat.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:24 pm

Salty wrote:
Merkin wrote:
If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

And one more after those...

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:25 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
Salty wrote:
Merkin wrote:
If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.
I hope RR does not leave, and would be disappointed if he left. I would not, however, be crushed.

And if he expresses interest in another coaching job as a way to leverage a raise, then I will expect Byrne to play a game of chicken. We are 17-17 in conference play, and very unlikely to finish >0.500 in conference play over the past 4 years.

Can we do better? Quite possibly not... But we're paying enough now for what we are getting.

I agree. I seriously question any school that would legitimately be interested in RR at this point, and if RR attempted to leverage interest into a raise, I would expect Byrne not to budge.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:37 am

Salty wrote:
Merkin wrote:
If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:39 am

Salty wrote:
Merkin wrote:
If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

Are you smoking something right now. Why are you suggesting that RR would leave after a bad season.
I don't think RR would leave. No school would be interest of getting if they going to think his performance on both side of ball are equal.
RR just lost 49-3 and his defense has got any better than. Why would any school want a coach if he cant catch defense.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:57 am

Merkin wrote:

Exactly.

I'm willing to bet that RR is already gone.

Just like when the college GF starts getting "busy" and a slight freeze comes over the relationship...It's only a matter of time.

EDIT: didn't see the tweet till now, but was thinking about this during the game last night.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:58 am

Salty wrote:
Merkin wrote:
If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

Salty bringing some clutch posts the past 2-3 weeks about the FB situation. I'm right there with you on this.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:31 pm

Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:35 pm

PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.

Bad comparison is a bad one.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:50 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.
Bad comparison is a bad one.

Definitely. Doesn't even make sense. Phxcats is crashing and burning today.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:06 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.
Bad comparison is a bad one.

How so. You could see flaws but promise with Miller then as you can with Rich Rod today.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:15 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.
Bad comparison is a bad one.
How so. You could see flaws but promise with Miller then as you can with Rich Rod today.

Can you explain how it's a good comparison in English please?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:30 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.
Bad comparison is a bad one.
How so. You could see flaws but promise with Miller then as you can with Rich Rod today.
Can you explain how it's a good comparison in English please?

Already did. Both coaches showed promise but saw their flaws as well. So should we have let Miller go to Maryland at the time since he was a messy burger away for leaving and got more power and a raise out of it.

If you want RR gone, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, just make sure you understand everything that goes with it.

I am frustrated as well. Mostly by the poor coaching and lack of effort yesterday. But since I don't see a good established coach coming here and coordinators are such a crapshoot with most not working (Stoops Muschamp etc are really good ones that come to mind) I don't want a change at this time.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:36 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.
Bad comparison is a bad one.
How so. You could see flaws but promise with Miller then as you can with Rich Rod today.
Can you explain how it's a good comparison in English please?
Already did. Both coaches showed promise but saw their flaws as well. So should we have let Miller go to Maryland at the time since he was a messy burger away for leaving and got more power and a raise out of it.

If you want RR gone, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, just make sure you understand everything that goes with it.

I am frustrated as well. Mostly by the poor coaching and lack of effort yesterday. But since I don't see a good established coach coming here and coordinators are such a crapshoot with most not working (Stoops Muschamp etc are really good ones that come to mind) I don't want a change at this time.

Miller just got off an Elite 8 run. Rich Rod will be coming off a season where we likely don't make a bowl game. Once again bad comparison.

I don't think any one wants RR gone seriously, I just think the thought is if he wants to go Arizona can't really do anything to stop him, since they're already paying him about as much money as they can. Miller's program also is the top dog on campus, you don't let the top dog walk when all he wants is more chartered flights, a raise for his assistants, and maybe a little extra coin his way. What Rich Rod wants, the University of Arizona can not give him plain and simple. Arizona can provide Miller with every thing that he wants from a support and level of position stand point. It's a bad comparison PHX, sorry.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:37 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.
Bad comparison is a bad one.
How so. You could see flaws but promise with Miller then as you can with Rich Rod today.
Can you explain how it's a good comparison in English please?
Already did. Both coaches showed promise but saw their flaws as well. So should we have let Miller go to Maryland at the time since he was a messy burger away for leaving and got more power and a raise out of it.

If you want RR gone, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, just make sure you understand everything that goes with it.

I am frustrated as well. Mostly by the poor coaching and lack of effort yesterday. But since I don't see a good established coach coming here and coordinators are such a crapshoot with most not working (Stoops Muschamp etc are really good ones that come to mind) I don't want a change at this time.

I do not WANT Rich Rod to leave. I just won't be 'crushed' if he does.

There is no comparison between Miller's and RR's first 2 years here, nor between their first 4. None, including performance, accomplishment, representation on the big stage, recruiting, or trajectory.

That's not a fair comparison, admittedly a - the programs and associated challenges are night and day - but I am not the one who tried to make it.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:44 pm

RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:01 pm

PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though

Somehow the New Mexico Bowl and Advocare whatever bowl do not compare to an Elite 8 and a conference title. Call me crazy though.

Rich Rod was left a durable machine of a pro running back to help guide him to two marginal bowl games. Miller was left with Nic Wise.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:06 pm

I will take 3 bowls a pac12 south title and a NY6 bowl in three years vs and elite 8 one regular season title and two missed ncaa tournaments. But to each their own. Now what Miller has done the next three has been outstanding, just gotta break through a little more now.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:06 pm

PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though

Um it is a lot harder to make the post season in basketball. 68/350 teams as opposed to about 70-80/128

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:08 pm

PHXCATS wrote:I will take 3 bowls a pac12 south title and a NY6 bowl in three years vs and elite 8 one regular season title and two missed ncaa tournaments. But to each their own. Now what Miller has done the next three has been outstanding, just gotta break through a little more now.

Once again one was left with Nic Wise and the other Ka'Deem Carey. You're lacking context to say the least.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:21 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:I will take 3 bowls a pac12 south title and a NY6 bowl in three years vs and elite 8 one regular season title and two missed ncaa tournaments. But to each their own. Now what Miller has done the next three has been outstanding, just gotta break through a little more now.
Once again one was left with Nic Wise and the other Ka'Deem Carey. You're lacking context to say the least.

I said what I will take, not claiming everyone should or what is definitely better.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:01 pm

PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though

I respect your opinion, but this is a ridiculous comparison. Apples and oranges to the extreme.

FB: First 2 seasons 4-5 in PAC, finishing 8th and T7th

BB: First 2 seasons 10-8 (4th) and 16-5 (1st)

Forget about NIT; A lower-level bowl game with a losing conference record is closer to a CBI tournament berth than an NCAA one, and that is being generous.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:08 pm

I hope Arizona doesn't have to face a RR coached team in the future. I think he can cause some havoc in the ACC with Miami or Virginia Tech.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:09 pm

Bowl game appearances is currently the most overrated stat. I head them say it last night about RR tying the record with 3 straight bowl appearances.

But if go 6-6 you are in now. You can play a FCS team every year now.

Larry Smith had 6 straight winning seasons.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:45 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though
I respect your opinion, but this is a ridiculous comparison. Apples and oranges to the extreme.

FB: First 2 seasons 4-5 in PAC, finishing 8th and T7th

BB: First 2 seasons 10-8 (4th) and 16-5 (1st)

Forget about NIT; A lower-level bowl game with a losing conference record is closer to a CBI tournament berth than an NCAA one, and that is being generous.

UA fifth year before Miller arrived in conference. UA eleventh year before RR arrived in conference.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:56 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though
I respect your opinion, but this is a ridiculous comparison. Apples and oranges to the extreme.

FB: First 2 seasons 4-5 in PAC, finishing 8th and T7th

BB: First 2 seasons 10-8 (4th) and 16-5 (1st)

Forget about NIT; A lower-level bowl game with a losing conference record is closer to a CBI tournament berth than an NCAA one, and that is being generous.
UA fifth year before Miller arrived in conference. UA eleventh year before RR arrived in conference.

Once again a take that lacks any context. Chase Budinger and Jordan Hill were on that 5th place team. They were not on the following year's team. Our top RB the year before RR took over was Keola Antolin. Also PAC 12 football > PAC 12 basketball during that period.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:59 pm

I love Rich Rod and his family. So we're having a tough go. Still think if anybody can get us to the promised land RR and staff can do it. We need to keep the faith guys. We still have one of the best coaches in the nation.

Out.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:56 pm

I have no idea who this guy is.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:59 pm

If this is true (I have no clue if it is or not), Byrne needs to fire RR, the way Bo Schembechler canned Frieder.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:02 pm

some west virginia person...so take that with a huge grain of salt. they're still upset about him leaving.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:14 pm

Oh he's just the guy who said that WV was getting a SEC invite and is a proprietor of conference realignment bullshit. If he's right about RR to Tech it's merely a coincidence or him going off of what every media person is saying right now. Nothing less and nothing more.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:33 pm

This was from back in April. The article questions the original article sources, but its a bit more relevant now.

The article in question was written with the best of intentions. The goal of any author is to improve readership. The problem with this scenario, is something doesn't quite add up. Too many unnamed sources are a bad thing, and with this piece it seems like bar chatter. Speculation is easy, facts are not. The quote from the article that left me pulling my hair out, was this:

"Multiple sources have indicated to me that Whit Babcock has already approached current Arizona head coach Rich Rodriguez about replacing Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech. While I was not told directly the two had met there was a strong indication that there had been a personal meeting in the not-so-distant past."

Who are these sources? If you aren't told directly, then it's hearsay. I will offer only this: I will believe it when I see it. Follow me @roybhatfield

http://www.gobblercountry.com/2015/4/22 ... -to-hokies" target="_blank

And in this poll (online poll on fan forum so its not perfect), only 29% wouldn't like RR as HC.

http://virginiatech.sportswar.com/free- ... rodriguez/" target="_blank

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:11 pm

azgreg wrote:I have no idea who this guy is.

Scheer seems to be considering the report as having a chance at being accurate. I hope it is not, and I am not ready to concede that it is.

If proven true, however, then it has been in the works for some time - and pre-dates the recent season slide. So when the RR zealots declare "we have no one to blame but our own fans for this", get ready for a fight. Of course many of those same folks have claimed RR wanted to retire here since he said it when he arrived in Tucson for the first time.

This would be an extremely difficult off-season to be looking for a head coach. With Fuentes being very high on most lists, it would be VERY difficult to see us landing him.

If he does leave, Byrne better play hardball on enforcing his buyout, and he should be relieved of his duties the moment a deal with VTU is confirmed.

Like I said... I hope this is all nothing more than a hypothetical.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:16 pm

Well I can't imagine Babcock going behind Byrnes back and secretly meeting with RR. I could see agents communicating levels of interest.

Interesting time for GB I am sure

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