UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:30 pm

Over under 4000 at the next home game?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:36 pm

Cal state northridge at 4 pm on Sunday after Thanksgiving.... Traffic is going to be backed up for miles on every freeway and road within 40 miles of Pauley

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:08 pm

Irish27 wrote:Wow, UCLA looks like crap. Extend Alford immediately.

How do you extend a lifetime contract?

Zero wrote:Over under 4000 at the next home game?

I'm loading up the wagons, packing food for a couple days, dropping the baby off at my parents, braving the elements, and going to the game. Going to be a pain driving all those miles of roads for 40 miles.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:10 pm

Zero wrote:Over under 4000 at the next home game?

The better question is . . . . how many balloon animals?

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:39 pm

Alford is letting them play. I hope everyone is enjoying that.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:32 pm

I am.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:22 am

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:36 am

Pretty funny fuegs, but it begs the question whether your opponent bothered to show up at all.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:10 am

Chicat wrote:Pretty funny fuegs, but it begs the question whether your opponent bothered to show up at all.

I was expecting a dog fight, but got nothing to measure this team against from UCLA. On paper UCLA has a pretty talented team. I can't believe Alford is that bad of a coach.

We'll see how we do against Vanderbilt.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:15 am

Maybe UCLA can copy asu and give free tickets to those who bring a can of food to the game.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:52 am

enfuego wrote:
Chicat wrote:Pretty funny fuegs, but it begs the question whether your opponent bothered to show up at all.
I was expecting a dog fight, but got nothing to measure this team against from UCLA. On paper UCLA has a pretty talented team. I can't believe Alford is that bad of a coach.

We'll see how we do against Vanderbilt.

Believe it. I give him another year after this one before they cut ties. Losses like last night where they just don't bother to show up, and the obvious fan disinterest, are bound to doom his tenure sooner rather than later.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:25 am

UCLA came out like Rocky did against Thunderlips in Rocky III. Let's just throw a few punches and give the crowd a good time.

When they realized Kansas didn't think this was an exhibition, they rolled over and played dead.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:13 am

enfuego wrote:
Chicat wrote:Pretty funny fuegs, but it begs the question whether your opponent bothered to show up at all.
I was expecting a dog fight, but got nothing to measure this team against from UCLA. On paper UCLA has a pretty talented team. I can't believe Alford is that bad of a coach.

We'll see how we do against Vanderbilt.

LOL. UCLA is almost always a talented team on paper. And yes, Alford is a joke

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:41 am

Chicat wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Chicat wrote:Pretty funny fuegs, but it begs the question whether your opponent bothered to show up at all.
I was expecting a dog fight, but got nothing to measure this team against from UCLA. On paper UCLA has a pretty talented team. I can't believe Alford is that bad of a coach.

We'll see how we do against Vanderbilt.
Believe it. I give him another year after this one before they cut ties. Losses like last night where they just don't bother to show up, and the obvious fan disinterest, are bound to doom his tenure sooner rather than later.

It's going to take more than that. The AD is going have to go too.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:07 am

There is talk he's retiring in 2017.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:13 am

MrBug708 wrote:There is talk he's retiring in 2017.

Is there one fan out there that would be sad about that?

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:17 am

Olsondogg wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:There is talk he's retiring in 2017.
Is there one fan out there that would be sad about that?

If there is I don't think I've met any of them.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:35 pm

Espn just had an update after the Zags game where when talking about ucla, Miller's comments were shown and discussed. Jay Williams said that it shouldn't have been done by the head coach (shocker) and then Seth Greenburg explained why it was done, and how it was good to do--and also clarified that ucla was not mentioned.

I just have to say, that I love the fact that when uCla is discussed right now, the talk is of Arizona, the program and the environment. Pretty funny that Alford is letting them play, and lose...and then there is the "salt in the wound" as Jay Williams said...

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:47 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Espn just had an update after the Zags game where when talking about ucla, Miller's comments were shown and discussed. Jay Williams said that it shouldn't have been done by the head coach (shocker) and then Seth Greenburg explained why it was done, and how it was good to do--and also clarified that ucla was not mentioned.

I just have to say, that I love the fact that when uCla is discussed right now, the talk is of Arizona, the program and the environment. Pretty funny that Alford is letting them play, and lose...and then there is the "salt in the wound" as Jay Williams said...

Look, when Miller names no one and just generally talks about teams with terrible fans who are always stuck in traffic and everyone instantaneously goes to UCLA, it speaks volumes. Everybody knows the team with those problems. Name another allegedly high profile program that regularly draws 50% capacity.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:50 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Espn just had an update after the Zags game where when talking about ucla, Miller's comments were shown and discussed. Jay Williams said that it shouldn't have been done by the head coach (shocker) and then Seth Greenburg explained why it was done, and how it was good to do--and also clarified that ucla was not mentioned.

I just have to say, that I love the fact that when uCla is discussed right now, the talk is of Arizona, the program and the environment. Pretty funny that Alford is letting them play, and lose...and then there is the "salt in the wound" as Jay Williams said...
Look, when Miller names no one and just generally talks about teams with terrible fans who are always stuck in traffic and everyone instantaneously goes to UCLA, it speaks volumes. Everybody knows the team with those problems. Name another allegedly high profile program that regularly draws 50% capacity.

No shit.

The point is that he didn't say it. You can say alot without saying anything....What about that don't you understand?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:10 pm

Olsondogg wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Espn just had an update after the Zags game where when talking about ucla, Miller's comments were shown and discussed. Jay Williams said that it shouldn't have been done by the head coach (shocker) and then Seth Greenburg explained why it was done, and how it was good to do--and also clarified that ucla was not mentioned.

I just have to say, that I love the fact that when uCla is discussed right now, the talk is of Arizona, the program and the environment. Pretty funny that Alford is letting them play, and lose...and then there is the "salt in the wound" as Jay Williams said...
Look, when Miller names no one and just generally talks about teams with terrible fans who are always stuck in traffic and everyone instantaneously goes to UCLA, it speaks volumes. Everybody knows the team with those problems. Name another allegedly high profile program that regularly draws 50% capacity.
No shit.

The point is that he didn't say it. You can say alot without saying anything....What about that don't you understand?

If Sean Miller does an interview stating UCLA has terrible fan support in exactly those words, it is fine. They do. It is an obvious thing. No one should feel bad for stating the obvious.

There is no reason why Miller should not take every chance to point out how Arizona is superior to UCLA in fan support. If we make them feel bad, so be it.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:18 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Espn just had an update after the Zags game where when talking about ucla, Miller's comments were shown and discussed. Jay Williams said that it shouldn't have been done by the head coach (shocker) and then Seth Greenburg explained why it was done, and how it was good to do--and also clarified that ucla was not mentioned.

I just have to say, that I love the fact that when uCla is discussed right now, the talk is of Arizona, the program and the environment. Pretty funny that Alford is letting them play, and lose...and then there is the "salt in the wound" as Jay Williams said...
Look, when Miller names no one and just generally talks about teams with terrible fans who are always stuck in traffic and everyone instantaneously goes to UCLA, it speaks volumes. Everybody knows the team with those problems. Name another allegedly high profile program that regularly draws 50% capacity.
No shit.

The point is that he didn't say it. You can say alot without saying anything....What about that don't you understand?
If Sean Miller does an interview stating UCLA has terrible fan support in exactly those words, it is fine. They do. It is an obvious thing. No one should feel bad for stating the obvious.

There is no reason why Miller should not take every chance to point out how Arizona is superior to UCLA in fan support. If we make them feel bad, so be it.

Exactly spiff.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:23 pm

I don't know, ASUHATER says attendance isn't important.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:28 pm

I wonder what idiotic things about attendance phxcats is saying now. If UCLA was better they'd get better attendance. Attendance comes from success. Success doesn't come from attendance.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:37 pm

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:57 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Espn just had an update after the Zags game where when talking about ucla, Miller's comments were shown and discussed. Jay Williams said that it shouldn't have been done by the head coach (shocker) and then Seth Greenburg explained why it was done, and how it was good to do--and also clarified that ucla was not mentioned.

I just have to say, that I love the fact that when uCla is discussed right now, the talk is of Arizona, the program and the environment. Pretty funny that Alford is letting them play, and lose...and then there is the "salt in the wound" as Jay Williams said...

In short, Mission: Accomplished.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:23 pm

UCLA's defense is pathetic.

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:51 pm

So let me get this straight: it's okay for UCLA fans to complain about their poor home attendance and traffic. But if someone else says it, them's fighting words?

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:28 pm

carolinacat wrote:So let me get this straight: it's okay for UCLA fans to complain about their poor home attendance and traffic. But if someone else says it, them's fighting words?

Sounds about right....SMH....pathetic and an embarrassment for the Pac.

LBdCactus · Post by **LBdCactus** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:39 pm

Do they make the NIT this year? Is it too early to start the NIT bubble talk?

(Just kidding. Sorta)

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:03 pm

I hope the Compton Magic have fun with Bruins!!!

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:20 pm

Wait 'til next year is a common reply for UCLA fans. But we heard that last year.....and the year before...

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:02 pm

carolinacat wrote:Wait 'til next year is a common reply for UCLA fans. But we heard that last year.....and the year before...

So true. And they are silly if they think all these guys are coming back next year. I expect some transfers.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:53 am

Zero wrote:
carolinacat wrote:Wait 'til next year is a common reply for UCLA fans. But we heard that last year.....and the year before...

So true. And they are silly if they think all these guys are coming back next year. I expect some transfers.

There are really only three core players IMO. Welsh, Holiday, and Ali. You could probably add Bolden, but I doubt he sticks around another year, thought he came back for this year. Everyone else isn't going to help UCLA really. Bryce and Ball wont be able to coexist in a positive way, at least as far as I can tell.

Oh well.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:11 am

Just join the force bug! Become an Arizona fan.

OT. Glad you came to this board after goazcats.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:30 am

Olsondogg wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:There is talk he's retiring in 2017.
Is there one fan out there that would be sad about that?

Beachcat?

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:28 am

No way UCLA could be under achieving. They've just been getting screwed by crooked refs fixing games in Maui:

http://www.scout.com/college/ucla/forum ... /177701591" target="_blank

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:25 pm

I just want to know when we can lay to rest two ideas that still make their way into discussions of UCLA hoops.

1. That UCLA is (or can become) an elite program. They're not, and they cannot. They've had two successful coaches, one is a legend, the other was fired for not being more like the former. Aside from these coaches' tenures, UCLA is no better than a low-2nd to 3rd tier program nationally.

2. AZ "needs" UCLA to be strong. No, we don't. We just need a group of Pac teams in contention every year, regardless of the letters on their chests. Cal is strong this year, and USC and Oregon are off to good starts. That'll do just fine. UCLA can continue to suck and it won't affect us in the slightest.

"Heh"ppy Thanksgiving, everyone.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:39 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Look, when Miller names no one and just generally talks about teams with terrible fans who are always stuck in traffic and everyone instantaneously goes to UCLA, it speaks volumes. Everybody knows the team with those problems.

Ding ding ding

In other words, you see your girl dancing on a dude in the club, you shouldn't be mad at the dude, you should be mad at your chick

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:48 pm

I agree We dont need UCLA to be good. I enjoy them sucking. The old days when both of us were good were a lot of fun. But my blood pressure is better off with them being where they are.

I don't agree that UCLA cannot be an elite program again. They have their flaws, but they still have pulled great talent over the years. There is a lot of talent in that state. Alford is pulling some quality guys in the next two classes for crying out loud, and he isnt shit. All it takes is some moron who is a good coach to take that job and have a couple good seasons and they are straight. Their contract with Adidas is up soon and that wont hurt either, though Adidas is making somewhat of a turnaround since they brought Kanye aboard.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:21 pm

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:42 pm

rgdeuce wrote:I agree We dont need UCLA to be good. I enjoy them sucking. The old days when both of us were good were a lot of fun. But my blood pressure is better off with them being where they are.

I don't agree that UCLA cannot be an elite program again. They have their flaws, but they still have pulled great talent over the years. There is a lot of talent in that state. Alford is pulling some quality guys in the next two classes for crying out loud, and he isnt shit. All it takes is some moron who is a good coach to take that job and have a couple good seasons and they are straight. Their contract with Adidas is up soon and that wont hurt either, though Adidas is making somewhat of a turnaround since they brought Kanye aboard.

C'mon man. You realize who you were responding to, right?

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:08 pm

Who wants to start the "UA Basketball in trouble?" thread. Looking pretty bad against Santa Clara.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:50 am

enfuego wrote:Who wants to start the "UA Basketball in trouble?" thread. Looking pretty bad against Santa Clara.

You enjoying UA's bad wins as much as we enjoy KU's losses?

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:39 am

Puerco wrote:
enfuego wrote:Who wants to start the "UA Basketball in trouble?" thread. Looking pretty bad against Santa Clara.
You enjoying UA's bad wins as much as we enjoy KU's losses?

Ha. You betcha. I do enjoy it when Arizona has a good team, as I enjoy watching good basketball. I do, however, root for UA to lose every game.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:21 am

enfuego wrote:
Puerco wrote:
enfuego wrote:Who wants to start the "UA Basketball in trouble?" thread. Looking pretty bad against Santa Clara.
You enjoying UA's bad wins as much as we enjoy KU's losses?
Ha. You betcha. I do enjoy it when Arizona has a good team, as I enjoy watching good basketball. I do, however, root for UA to lose every game.

Sorry there's been so much disappointment in your life the past couple of years.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:19 am

Chicat wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Puerco wrote:
enfuego wrote:Who wants to start the "UA Basketball in trouble?" thread. Looking pretty bad against Santa Clara.
You enjoying UA's bad wins as much as we enjoy KU's losses?
Ha. You betcha. I do enjoy it when Arizona has a good team, as I enjoy watching good basketball. I do, however, root for UA to lose every game.
Sorry there's been so much disappointment in your life the past couple of years.

Thanks man. Something tells me this is going to be a special year.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:40 pm

Ive never seen such a blatant troll who is a fan of a rival team, nonconference or not, stick around a team message board for so long. For as bad as his trolling is, that is impressive.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:09 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
Zero wrote:
carolinacat wrote:Wait 'til next year is a common reply for UCLA fans. But we heard that last year.....and the year before...

So true. And they are silly if they think all these guys are coming back next year. I expect some transfers.
There are really only three core players IMO. Welsh, Holiday, and Ali. You could probably add Bolden, but I doubt he sticks around another year, thought he came back for this year. Everyone else isn't going to help UCLA really. Bryce and Ball wont be able to coexist in a positive way, at least as far as I can tell.

Oh well.

You make solid contributions to the board, so I feel bad that my first response was that you need to give them a little time to shake off the coaching first before getting too stressed.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:05 pm

About to load up the wagon for the trek to Pauley for the Sunday game

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