Tarczewski

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:29 am

I don't watch much NBA, but is there a demand for a 6'11 center whose hands of stone don't allow him to catch an entry pass into the post and when he does can't create a shot for himself unless completely unguarded, but can rebound well?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:35 am

enfuego wrote:I don't watch much NBA, but is there a demand for a 6'11 center whose hands of stone don't allow him to catch an entry pass into the post and when he does can't create a shot for himself unless completely unguarded, but can rebound well?

I don't know how Cole Aldrich is doing these days, to be honest.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:22 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Wonder if we're gonna see Zeus and Ristic on the floor together very much.
Probably when we play Gonzaga and we need to counter a Karnowski/Sabonis combo.
Cal has multiple bigs too.

They do?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:24 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
enfuego wrote:I don't watch much NBA, but is there a demand for a 6'11 center whose hands of stone don't allow him to catch an entry pass into the post and when he does can't create a shot for himself unless completely unguarded, but can rebound well?
I don't know how Cole Aldrich is doing these days, to be honest.

Don't know about Aldrich, but Sasha Kaun is almost scoring 10ppg and 5 boards a game in Russia.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:31 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
enfuego wrote:I don't watch much NBA, but is there a demand for a 6'11 center whose hands of stone don't allow him to catch an entry pass into the post and when he does can't create a shot for himself unless completely unguarded, but can rebound well?
I don't know how Cole Aldrich is doing these days, to be honest.
Don't know about Aldrich, but Sasha Kaun is almost scoring 10ppg and 5 boards a game in Russia.

That's pretty good, since he plays for the Cavaliers in the NBA.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:42 pm

enfuego wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
enfuego wrote:I don't watch much NBA, but is there a demand for a 6'11 center whose hands of stone don't allow him to catch an entry pass into the post and when he does can't create a shot for himself unless completely unguarded, but can rebound well?
I don't know how Cole Aldrich is doing these days, to be honest.
Don't know about Aldrich, but Sasha Kaun is almost scoring 10ppg and 5 boards a game in Russia.
That's pretty good, since he plays for the Cavaliers in the NBA.

So far, he's racking up 37 minutes...this season!

http://m.bkref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXkXXkaunsa01.html" target="_blank

Just for fun, here's the most up to date Cole Aldrich info. Allegedly he is involved with the Clippers, although not really playing for them. I like how it says that he "reached" the NBA finals as a member of the Thunder. In the same way the team mascot reached the finals.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Aldrich" target="_blank

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:47 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
enfuego wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
enfuego wrote:I don't watch much NBA, but is there a demand for a 6'11 center whose hands of stone don't allow him to catch an entry pass into the post and when he does can't create a shot for himself unless completely unguarded, but can rebound well?
I don't know how Cole Aldrich is doing these days, to be honest.
Don't know about Aldrich, but Sasha Kaun is almost scoring 10ppg and 5 boards a game in Russia.
That's pretty good, since he plays for the Cavaliers in the NBA.
So far, he's racking up 37 minutes...this season!

http://m.bkref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXkXXkaunsa01.html" target="_blank

Just for fun, here's the most up to date Cole Aldrich info. Allegedly he is involved with the Clippers, although not really playing for them. I like how it says that he "reached" the NBA finals as a member of the Thunder. In the same way the team mascot reached the finals.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Aldrich" target="_blank

Speaking of draft busts, this has to be one of the worst NBA draft picks at #2 in draft history?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6480 ... k-williams" target="_blank

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:06 pm

enfuego wrote:
Speaking of draft busts, this has to be one of the worst NBA draft picks at #2 in draft history?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6480 ... k-williams" target="_blank

I mean no more disappointing than this #3 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/454/raef-lafrentz" target="_blank

Or this #5 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6618/thomas-robinson" target="_blank

Should I really go into more of your lottery picks? Julian Wright, Brandon Rush, Ben McLemore, Kelly Oubre? You guys are very proficient at developing your players for NBA success.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:06 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Speaking of draft busts, this has to be one of the worst NBA draft picks at #2 in draft history?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6480 ... k-williams" target="_blank
I mean no more disappointing than this #3 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/454/raef-lafrentz" target="_blank

Or this #5 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6618/thomas-robinson" target="_blank

Should I really go into more of your lottery picks? Julian Wright, Brandon Rush, Ben McLemore?

Who the fuck is Julian Wright?

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:08 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Speaking of draft busts, this has to be one of the worst NBA draft picks at #2 in draft history?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6480 ... k-williams" target="_blank
I mean no more disappointing than this #3 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/454/raef-lafrentz" target="_blank

Or this #5 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6618/thomas-robinson" target="_blank

Should I really go into more of your lottery picks? Julian Wright, Brandon Rush, Ben McLemore?

Raef blew out both knees in the day where these types of injuries were career ending.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:08 pm

dcZONAfan wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Speaking of draft busts, this has to be one of the worst NBA draft picks at #2 in draft history?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6480 ... k-williams" target="_blank
I mean no more disappointing than this #3 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/454/raef-lafrentz" target="_blank

Or this #5 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6618/thomas-robinson" target="_blank

Should I really go into more of your lottery picks? Julian Wright, Brandon Rush, Ben McLemore?
Who the fuck is Julian Wright?

I'm not even sure the NBA knows any more.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:17 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Speaking of draft busts, this has to be one of the worst NBA draft picks at #2 in draft history?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6480 ... k-williams" target="_blank
I mean no more disappointing than this #3 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/454/raef-lafrentz" target="_blank

Or this #5 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6618/thomas-robinson" target="_blank

Should I really go into more of your lottery picks? Julian Wright, Brandon Rush, Ben McLemore?
Who the fuck is Julian Wright?
I'm not even sure the NBA knows any more.

I'm sure he doesn't care, as he made about $8.5M in four years.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:36 pm

enfuego wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Speaking of draft busts, this has to be one of the worst NBA draft picks at #2 in draft history?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6480 ... k-williams" target="_blank
I mean no more disappointing than this #3 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/454/raef-lafrentz" target="_blank

Or this #5 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6618/thomas-robinson" target="_blank

Should I really go into more of your lottery picks? Julian Wright, Brandon Rush, Ben McLemore?
Who the fuck is Julian Wright?
I'm not even sure the NBA knows any more.
I'm sure he doesn't care, as he made about $8.5M in four years.

That's funny, the guy you slammed that started this back and forth made about $20 million in four years. So what was your point again?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:41 pm

Damn, enfuego getting his shit ripped apart worse than what Joel Embiid does to an all-you-can-eat buffet.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:43 pm

enfuego wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Speaking of draft busts, this has to be one of the worst NBA draft picks at #2 in draft history?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6480 ... k-williams" target="_blank
I mean no more disappointing than this #3 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/454/raef-lafrentz" target="_blank

Or this #5 pick

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6618/thomas-robinson" target="_blank

Should I really go into more of your lottery picks? Julian Wright, Brandon Rush, Ben McLemore?
Who the fuck is Julian Wright?
I'm not even sure the NBA knows any more.
I'm sure he doesn't care, as he made about $8.5M in four years.

Julian Wright is so set for life that he's playing for three overseas teams in a single calendar year. If it is for the love of the game, you wonder why he had his contract terminated by one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Wright" target="_blank

The real question is if Joel Embiid will ever play an NBA game. Kansas fans should never make statements about draft busts. KU has a long history of draft busts.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:44 pm

Chicat wrote:Damn, enfuego getting his shit ripped apart worse than what Joel Embiid does to an all-you-can-eat buffet.

Ha! My original point was that I doubt Tarczewski has an NBA contract in his future. He's no Cole Aldrich.

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:52 pm

enfuego wrote:
Chicat wrote:Damn, enfuego getting his shit ripped apart worse than what Joel Embiid does to an all-you-can-eat buffet.
Ha! My original point was that I doubt Tarczewski has an NBA contract in his future. He's no Cole Aldrich.

And if he doesn't, this somehow elevates Kansas in your eyes?

Wouldn't surprise me if you doubted McConnell would get an NBA contract either.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:57 pm

carolinacat wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Chicat wrote:Damn, enfuego getting his shit ripped apart worse than what Joel Embiid does to an all-you-can-eat buffet.
Ha! My original point was that I doubt Tarczewski has an NBA contract in his future. He's no Cole Aldrich.
And if he doesn't, this somehow elevates Kansas in your eyes?

Wouldn't surprise me if you doubted McConnell would get an NBA contract either.

You can bump his posts from last year. He was pretty clear that other than SJ and maybe RHJ, no one else was making it.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:11 am

Chicat wrote:Damn, enfuego getting his shit ripped apart worse than what Joel Embiid does to an all-you-can-eat buffet.

Who is Joel Embiid?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:32 am

Puerco wrote:
Chicat wrote:Damn, enfuego getting his shit ripped apart worse than what Joel Embiid does to an all-you-can-eat buffet.
Who is Joel Embiid?

Professional rehabber.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:12 am

Never heard of him.

Oh wait, I fond him on ESPN: 'No stats available.'

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:20 am

Puerco wrote:Never heard of him.

Oh wait, I fond him on ESPN: 'No stats available.'

I thought it was "as seen on Twitter."

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:41 pm

Daily Star reporting Kaleb is practicing again.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:49 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Daily Star reporting Kaleb is practicing again.

Interesting...

I went looking for news this morning to see if I should include him in RAP, and I didn't find anything outside of an article from a little over a week ago stating that 6-8 weeks had become "indefinitely" (which definitely worried me). Good to hear he's progressing. Now to get back into game shape....

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:12 pm

Cliff Alexander. A real comer. Unique skill set.

Just one year before, Alexander was a top-five recruit, ranked ahead of top draft picks Karl-Anthony Towns and D'Angelo Russell by every major scouting service. Since Rivals.com began covering basketball in 2004, Tennessee's Scotty Hopson has been the only other top-five recruit to go undrafted.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/30/9 ... il-blazers" target="_blank

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:36 am

rgdeuce wrote:Baynes has an unbelievable motor and heart. second to virtually no one. Boguts a highly skilled player, not sure hes a good example

I wasn't dissing either. Somebody who I can't bother checking who mentioned Baynes and I was curious as to why he wasn't on the Australian list.

I explicitly mentioned that I wasn't including Bogut. His only problem is that he is constantly injured.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:48 am

Missed the context, my fault.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:45 pm

Sunday will be 12 days since the boot was off. Any chance hes on the court for ASU? My toes are crossed

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:50 pm

Jefe wrote:Sunday will be 12 days since the boot was off. Any chance hes on the court for ASU? My toes are crossed

I really doubt it. As much as I want him back for ASU, the risk/reward ratio is bad.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:55 pm

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:05 pm

Still think it's another two weeks before he even gets limited minutes

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:47 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Still think it's another two weeks before he even gets limited minutes

Yeah. Gotta think "big picture" here. Even if he helped us defeat any of these first three Pac opponents, the wins would be greatly devalued if Zeus came back early and re-injured himself.

I'm fine with resting him for most of January, if necessary.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:56 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Still think it's another two weeks before he even gets limited minutes
Yeah. Gotta think "big picture" here. Even if he helped us defeat any of these first three Pac opponents, the wins would be greatly devalued if Zeus came back early and re-injured himself.

I'm fine with resting him for most of January, if necessary.

EXACTLY BeachCat! +1000.....I actually think it's also a great opportunity to develop the other bigs as well.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:22 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Still think it's another two weeks before he even gets limited minutes
Yeah. Gotta think "big picture" here. Even if he helped us defeat any of these first three Pac opponents, the wins would be greatly devalued if Zeus came back early and re-injured himself.

I'm fine with resting him for most of January, if necessary.

I want a win vs ASU. Everything else is gravy. If Caleb can go 5 minutes and help us get rebounds vs ASU, I want him in there.

Hobbes · Post by **Hobbes** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:40 am

I don't think it's necessary to push Zeus for the ASU game. I think the most important thing is to get him healthy.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:42 am

Checking in at 113 on the big draft board.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... siere-no-6" target="_blank

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:56 am

gumby wrote:Cliff Alexander. A real comer. Unique skill set.

Just one year before, Alexander was a top-five recruit, ranked ahead of top draft picks Karl-Anthony Towns and D'Angelo Russell by every major scouting service. Since Rivals.com began covering basketball in 2004, Tennessee's Scotty Hopson has been the only other top-five recruit to go undrafted.
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/30/9 ... il-blazers" target="_blank

Think you missed this enfuego. Or are you the guy with genital herpes who criticizes someone for catching gonorrhea?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:59 am

enfuego wrote:Checking in at 113 on the big draft board.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... siere-no-6" target="_blank

I hope I never wind up so butthurt 4 years after a HS senior chooses a different college that I have to constantly check sites that don't regularly do nba draft projections in order to attempt to troll an opposing fan base.

Here's a site that is based in draft predictions that has Zeus drafted despite the injury costing him 10 spots.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft" target="_blank

Tell me how well Julian Wright's life is going again.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:07 am

Here's KU's center lineage lately:

Sasha Kaun-not playing in the nba.
Cole Aldrich-not playing in the nba.
Jeff Withey-benchwarmer in the nba! Thank you, Rudy Gobert's season ending injury for the roster spot!
Joel Embiid-not playing in the nba.
Cliff Alexander-not playing in the nba.

It's the place to be for big men.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:07 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Here's KU's center lineage lately:

Sasha Kaun-not playing in the nba.
Cole Aldrich-not playing in the nba.
Jeff Withey-benchwarmer in the nba! Thank you, Rudy Gobert's season ending injury for the roster spot!
Joel Embiid-not playing in the nba.
Cliff Alexander-not playing in the nba.

It's the place to be for big men.

I think that's called "check-mate".

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:32 am

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:08 pm

Hope Tarc's 100% if he plays. If not, sit a bit longer, no rush.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:48 pm

Watching Tarczewski operate in the post (UA vs ASU game) is harder to watch than an NFL offensive lineman try an olympic routine on the balance beam. I've seen zero improvement in his offensive game in his 7 years of college ball.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:09 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:

Maybe by undetermined, he meant unlimited.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:11 pm

enfuego wrote:Watching Tarczewski operate in the post (UA vs ASU game) is harder to watch than an NFL offensive lineman try an olympic routine on the balance beam. I've seen zero improvement in his offensive game in his 7 years of college ball.

8 points 5 rebounds and a block in limited minutes while still not completely healthy.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:13 pm

enfuego wrote:Watching Tarczewski operate in the post (UA vs ASU game) is harder to watch than an NFL offensive lineman try an olympic routine on the balance beam. I've seen zero improvement in his offensive game in his 7 years of college ball.

Is it harder to watch than your favorite team getting constantly upset early in the NCAA tourney?

TheGreatCatsby · Post by **TheGreatCatsby** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:36 pm

For Kaleb to make it in the NBA as a role player, he's gonna have to come in and rebound, play great defense, and slow the other bigs down for awhile. But not sure if that's enough; his hands are still stone with limited offensive ability. But he is big as they come, good overall basketball awareness, hard to tell with him. If I had to guess I'd say he won't stick, but would love to be proved wrong if he develops further.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:37 pm

Still better than all the KU centers during that time put together.

TheGreatCatsby · Post by **TheGreatCatsby** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:44 pm

I mean I love having Kaleb on our team, he's a fine college basketball player, Miller trusts him, and we're definitely better off with him, especially as the PAC-12 season wears on and we go into the tournament. Helps that he's a good free throw shooter too as a big. He also is a big factor in our wear down strategy...takes alot of our opponents energy to guard him, Dusan, and Anderson down low along with everybody else who crashes the boards.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:47 pm

i love Kaleb -- what a huge difference maker he was today and will be throughout the rest of the season

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