2015 Pac-12 game thread

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:36 pm

Well this got even weirder, quicker

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:42 pm

Bug, at least you can console yourself with those three magic words...

"True Freshman Quarterback"

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:46 pm

I fear Mazzone might keep trying to run the zone read with him despite him keeping it 3 times all year.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:36 am

Last night's inexcusable loss to Nebraska in the Foster Farms Bowl has got to be a wake up call for all UCLA fans as to whether things are slowly getting worse under Jim Mora. Notice I say ALL Bruin fans, because I think there's a strong contingent that had already drawn conclusions about Mora's coaching limitations and dismissed him after his roster folded in games to Oregon, ASU, Utah, and Stanford over the past two seasons, but last night has to bring everyone together on the same page. A substandard Nebraska team that managed only five wins as member of a pretty weak B1G West division cranked out so many rushing yards (over 300) that even the eye candy sideline reporter pointed it out to Mora on TV during the game. And Mora's first reaction was to blame "the injuries!"

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:46 am

To be fair Nebraska is an overtime loss and a couple end of game hail Mary's from being 10-3 right now.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:49 am

C'mon, AZ trademarked the excuse of "injuries" this year.

We have not beaten UCLA for one single recruit, and they finished the season with one more win than us. That's gotta sting.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:54 am

ASUHATER! wrote:To be fair Nebraska is an overtime loss and a couple end of game hail Mary's from being 10-3 right now.

I just don't see any honest way to defend UCLA's rolling over last night.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:15 am

ASUHATER! wrote:To be fair Nebraska is an overtime loss and a couple end of game hail Mary's from being 10-3 right now.

Not only did Nebraska lose to Purdue, they lost to Illinois.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:17 am

There isn't. But UCLA has struggled, all of Mora's tenure, against power offenses. We start 6'0 LB'ers, 5'8 CB's, 6' safeties, and we employ rush ends. All bad recipes

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:20 am

ASUHATER! wrote:To be fair Nebraska is an overtime loss and a couple end of game hail Mary's from being 10-3 right now.

Nebraska ended with 4 wins against BCS conference teams this season (including playoff team MSU)... and ended the season with 4 wins against teams playing in bowls. they also had a couple of terrible losses, too.

Had we played Nebraska's schedule, I seriously doubt we would have done any better (although wins and losses would probably have come against different opponents). Of course we got killed by UCLA... this was a bad loss for UCLA, but Nebraska achieved more than a number of teams with better records this season.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:37 am

MrBug708 wrote:There isn't. But UCLA has struggled, all of Mora's tenure, against power offenses. We start 6'0 LB'ers, 5'8 CB's, 6' safeties, and we employ rush ends. All bad recipes

You are focusing on the wrong things. Are they OKG's?

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:20 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:To be fair Nebraska is an overtime loss and a couple end of game hail Mary's from being 10-3 right now.

And Nebraska was a bad call against Michigan State from being 4-8 as well. It goes both ways. Half the Big 10(12) was absolute garbage. Indiana in a bowl game? And I thought Arizona's OOC was bad until I looked them up. At least Arizona beat a solid Utah team.

UCLA consistently underperforms based on the recruits they pull.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:45 pm

One game that went their way doesn't cancel 4 that didn't. 1<4

Nebraska was a 8-4/9-3 level team this year

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:29 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:One game that went their way doesn't cancel 4 that didn't. 1<4

Nebraska was a 8-4/9-3 level team this year

No they weren't. They were a 5-7 level team this year. You don't get partial credit. If you're a 8-4 level team, you don't have losses to BYU, Miami, Purdue & Illinois. It's not as though they had to run the gauntlet in the Big 10. They missed OSU & Michigan on their schedule.

In this day and age of college football, if you can't win a lousy six games to become bowl eligible, you don't deserve a bowl. They beat one really good team and needed a controversial call to do that. It's pathetic they even were invited to a bowl.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:32 pm

Nebraska was an 8-4/9-3 level team this year. I'll repeat it as long as you like, doesn't make it any less true.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:52 pm

I don't understand CCs angle. Is he trying to tell us ucla underachieved? Well thanks Captain Obvious

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:51 pm

MrBug708 wrote:I don't understand CCs angle. Is he trying to tell us ucla underachieved? Well thanks Captain Obvious

Apparently it's not so obvious to some who are trying to convince themselves that Nebraska was actually a really good team but because of some Hail Mary's only managed to win 5 games. As for UCLA, they underachieve every year in football.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:55 pm

We all have our passions in life. Yours is an odd one for sure

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:08 pm

MrBug708 wrote:We all have our passions in life. Yours is an odd one for sure

You're the one here on a rival board discussing your mediocre football program. And I'm odd?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:22 pm

carolinacat wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:We all have our passions in life. Yours is an odd one for sure
You're the one here on a rival board discussing your mediocre football program. And I'm odd?

Yes

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:11 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
carolinacat wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:We all have our passions in life. Yours is an odd one for sure
You're the one here on a rival board discussing your mediocre football program. And I'm odd?
Yes

Lol

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:05 pm

carolinacat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:One game that went their way doesn't cancel 4 that didn't. 1<4

Nebraska was a 8-4/9-3 level team this year
No they weren't. They were a 5-7 level team this year. You don't get partial credit. If you're a 8-4 level team, you don't have losses to BYU, Miami, Purdue & Illinois. It's not as though they had to run the gauntlet in the Big 10. They missed OSU & Michigan on their schedule.

In this day and age of college football, if you can't win a lousy six games to become bowl eligible, you don't deserve a bowl. They beat one really good team and needed a controversial call to do that. It's pathetic they even were invited to a bowl.

Think we would have been 6-6 if BYU and Miami replaced NAU and UTSA on our OOC?

Nebraska was not a great football team; had they played our schedule they would have won more games than they did. #GlassHouses

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:16 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
carolinacat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:One game that went their way doesn't cancel 4 that didn't. 1<4

Nebraska was a 8-4/9-3 level team this year
No they weren't. They were a 5-7 level team this year. You don't get partial credit. If you're a 8-4 level team, you don't have losses to BYU, Miami, Purdue & Illinois. It's not as though they had to run the gauntlet in the Big 10. They missed OSU & Michigan on their schedule.

In this day and age of college football, if you can't win a lousy six games to become bowl eligible, you don't deserve a bowl. They beat one really good team and needed a controversial call to do that. It's pathetic they even were invited to a bowl.
Think we would have been 6-6 if BYU and Miami replaced NAU and UTSA on our OOC?

Nebraska was not a great football team; had they played our schedule they would have won more games than they did. #GlassHouses

Well, I'm not sure Nebraska would've gotten past Colorado, Oregon State & Utah. At least Arizona beat the teams they should've beat. Doubt we would've lost to Purdue & Illinois.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:08 am

MrBug708 wrote:There isn't. But UCLA has struggled, all of Mora's tenure, against power offenses. We start 6'0 LB'ers, 5'8 CB's, 6' safeties, and we employ rush ends. All bad recipes

Was Nebraska even a true power offense this year? Granted Riley might be in the misdt of a power transition, but all year they've had no offensive identity until the bowl.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:45 am

CatsbyAZ wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:There isn't. But UCLA has struggled, all of Mora's tenure, against power offenses. We start 6'0 LB'ers, 5'8 CB's, 6' safeties, and we employ rush ends. All bad recipes
Was Nebraska even a true power offense this year? Granted Riley might be in the midst of a power transition, but all year they've had no offensive identity until the bowl.

4.72 yards per rush with 188 yards per game so. Not bad, but Nebraskaish.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:47 am

Has UCLA fan considered the idea that, maybe, they were beat by a better team?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:33 pm

CatsbyAZ wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:There isn't. But UCLA has struggled, all of Mora's tenure, against power offenses. We start 6'0 LB'ers, 5'8 CB's, 6' safeties, and we employ rush ends. All bad recipes
Was Nebraska even a true power offense this year? Granted Riley might be in the misdt of a power transition, but all year they've had no offensive identity until the bowl.

They've had no identity but if you watched the game, that's the offense they ran and it destroyed our defense.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:50 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Has UCLA fan considered the idea that, maybe, they were beat by a better team?

How about we all say NO, and agree to let you lay out your case as to how Nebraska might be the better team.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:45 pm

I mean... They beat UCLA. That's a pretty good case...

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:30 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:I mean... They beat UCLA. That's a pretty good case...

Most posters here give UCLA's season much more respect than it deserves because scoreboard-wise they beat us handily. In reality that game would have been very close had we not self-destructed with turnovers.

3 of their 5 conference wins came against P12 teams that finished 10-12 in the standings and combined for 4 conference wins. Cal was mediocre; like us, Utah was their only 'good' win.

UCLA was less likely to fall to a stinker team, and also less likely to beat a good one. I'd say pick your poison.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:17 am

ASUHATER! wrote:I mean... They beat UCLA. That's a pretty good case...

As an after the fact case, having watched them tally up over 300 yards, it's too easy and cheap to make.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:56 am

I'm with Hater here. I think Nebraska is much better than their record.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:28 am

Seriously. Without an entire decade's worth of freak, for-the-ages plays, Nebraska is at worst 7-5 or 8-4 this year. They were 5-7 but were an absolutely superior team to UCLA

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:08 pm

So, who do we like in the Trojan/Whiskey game tonight?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:18 pm

Go PAC. USC down 3-0

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:06 pm

This is the worst I've ever seen USC's offensive line.

Sage&Silver · Post by **Sage&Silver** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:25 am

It's crazy that USC played in a San Diego bowl game against a brand name BIG10 team, and they could have tarped off the entire upper deck.

College stadium upgrades at this point are just setting money on fire.

Forget bathrooms Greg, just build the practice bubble with a thousand HD cameras.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:18 am

The curse of the PAC-12 Championship game lives on

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:22 am

Well curse of the PAC 12 south winner really. All 5 South winners have finished their season 0-2

Scummy Dick Douglas · Post by **Scummy Dick Douglas** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:02 am

ASUHATER! wrote:Well curse of the PAC 12 south winner really. All 5 South winners have finished their season 0-2

I wonder how exclusive that trend is the the PAC. It's got to be tough to get your team up for a lesser bowl when you are one game away from the Rose Bowl.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:19 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Well curse of the PAC 12 south winner really. All 5 South winners have finished their season 0-2

But it is the toughest division in college football?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:39 pm

Furd out to a 21-0 still in the first.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:59 pm

McCaffrey should have won the Heisman.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:25 pm

azgreg wrote:McCaffrey should have won the Heisman.

He should be the favorite next year.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:34 pm

Irish27 wrote:
azgreg wrote:McCaffrey should have won the Heisman.
He should be the favorite next year.

Fournette plays in the SEC, so.......

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:43 pm

Stanford boat racing a talentless Iowa team. Was at a wedding in downtown LA last night and tons of Iowa fans at the hotel. Such nice people and this is just embarrassing for them

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:04 pm

The Stanford band just trolled Iowa big time with a FarmersOnly.com tribute.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:09 pm

Chicat wrote:The Stanford band just trolled Iowa big time with a FarmersOnly.com tribute.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:37 pm

I would assume after the Rose Bowl and semi finals performances that the Furd will be ranked #3 in the final rankings...

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:58 pm

SCCats wrote:I would assume after the Rose Bowl and semi finals performances that the Furd will be ranked #3 in the final rankings...

That's where I'd put them.

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